"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[LouisHernandez]

We texted pretty extensively & she sent some really hot pics. I had to be in the Battery last night on some unrelated business so asked her to join me there for a drink. At first, she agreed with no conditions. Then an hour later she said she needed $400 for "groceries. " She really really tried to get me to advance it. I refused to advance. She then agreed to have some after-drinks fun with me after I told her she'd definitely get grocery money after we had fun in private.

Something still seemed off about her way of talking. I smelled a rat with her &, frankly didn't expect her to show. Ultimately, I was right, she didn't. I then confronted her about it over text & she barked about how I "couldn't even do (her) a favor" after she asked for it. Reminded her that "favors" are given when favors are gotten. Didn't hear a peep after that.

Her pics are stunning, gents. Don't waste your time & fall for it.

$400 for "groceries" in advance. That's funny.

[FarFarAway]

I've been on Seeking for a long number of years. Way back when I joined, I put in my real age. Now that I'm almost to 60, I'm wondering if I would do better to create a new profile and shave 5 years off. I can pass for younger.

Do you other older guys like me use your real age? Do you think our prospects are hurt by it?

I've looked younger than my age most of my life. I have always had a 5 year discount on my seeking profiles. My SIL recently bragged she used a website that tells you the age you appear and came out quite a bit younger. IDK the one she used specifically, but I found one where you upload a photo. It hit mu actual age right on the money.

I think a lot of people routinely cut 5 years off age in social media. For some, who are at favorable ages (I. E. , my 27 YO ex-SB), they go with the facts. If you track down the real identity of a POT or a SB you sometimes find this. Sometimes a 40 year old really can pass for a 30 year old (girls).

I've had some SBs the past year who were totally into the whole older / younger thing, so for them I didn't pose any issue w / my age. In evaluating a profile, I look at their age range first thing. It is common to see 50 as the top of their range. When I see that, I just block the profile so I never have to worry about it again. We're not a match. I sometimes see profiles with phrases like 'not my grandpa'. Likewise. There are enough girls on there who don't care about age, truly, for me to have fruitful fishing grounds.

Some girls profiles list their top age as 60+, I am seeing a few lately that list like 55 or 59. I consider these open to someone like me. Just as I can't really tell ages anymore among the young girls, I don't think they can discern past a certain amount older.

BTW, about the young ones, If they say they are 18 or 19, I always confirm separately in a message that they are at least 18, precisely because I can't judge age of someone that young. I sometimes get a response that they will be happy to prove it, send me their drivers license pics, etc. BTW, I am past social security age, and still banging young pussy, so don't let age inhibit you. My current regular is 40 ish and a super accomplished business woman, but I've definitely had teenagers before. Memorable.

[Member #6718]

I used to always pull out with the fertile SBs, but lately I am jizzing inside there a bit more, and have them take a Plan B pill immediately afterwards. I'm surprised how many girls are up for this, but I think they enjoy some CIP too. The Plan B is about $40 at Walmart, but you can get them on Amazon for as low as $8 each:

https://www.amazon.com/Levonorgestrel-Emergency-Contraceptive-Tablet-Compare/dp/B07RZMG6ZM/

Just get a vasectomy bro, problem solved LOL.

[GoneForGood97]

Interesting. I've been thinking about getting snipped next year when I file for divorce. (Been waiting for the kid to leave the nest.) I never thought about passing out plan B as a less invasive option. Do some SBs refuse?

Most of them seem grateful a guy was thoughtful enough to bring one. I tend to grab 1 off Amazon and put it in the car if I have a date. Generally if things are going well then at some point she'll either bring up protection or just put me inside her.

If she asks about protection, I ask her if she's on BC, and if she is I tell her great, we're good to go, and I can show her recent STD results that we are. Most of the time just offering to do that is enough to get me in bare. If she's not on BC, then I ask her if she minds if we use Plan B, and I've got pretty good results with that offer. It takes a load off their minds when their taking a load inside LOL. Most are grateful that I'm so considerate. If/when it's used I just immediately Amazon Prime another, since I rarely see more than 1 girl a week.

If she never brings up protection and I'm inside her at some point I'll ask her where she wants me to cum. If she says inside I'll ask if she's on BC and if she is it's off to the races. If she isn't or if she tells me to pull out, I mention I brought a Plan B and confirm finishing inside is fine. 100% of the time I've had that work.

Very very occassionally they'll still insist on a condom (especially on the first date) and I respect their wishes. If I really like them and had a good time then on the next date I'll bring up the BC / Plan B conversation and see what it takes to make them comfortable going bare.

This is actually one of the few advantages the 30+ crowd have over the 18-29 crowd. Most of the 30+ girls will already have kids and have their tubes tied, where as the younger one's haven't. Still doesn't mean over 30 is worth a higher arrangement (especially with Plan B being $8) but it's something.

Another funny thing I've noticed with the more hippie / natural / organic girls (I.E. My type and a common set of values in early-mid 20's crowd) is they will avoid BC because it's unnatural, or some girls BC just fucks them up mentally / emotionally / physically, but for whatever reason they happily eat a Plan B (which I'm pretty certain is the exact same med as BC just a higher concentrated dosage). Go figure.

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...d-fd8db9903324

This link may or may not be dead, not sure if she blocked me or disabled her account. Anyways, we moved to snap and she's real. Seemed very open and fun sexually, open to bare and BBJ, but she's all the way in Buford. I was still considering seeing her to add her to my "little black book" even being that far out but eventually she asked for pics of me, then blocked me when I sent them. Guess she didn't like what she saw LOL. Figured I'd throw her to the forum. I think you can smash for between 2-300 since she's over 30.

[NewAnonymousName]

I shave about 4 years off mine. It can't hurt, and can only help to some degree.

That's what I was assuming. But then I was wondering if some of the 30+ women like the more seasoned guy. And a SB in her early 20's probably sees both 55 and 60 as super old either way.

[NewAnonymousName]

I used to always pull out with the fertile SBs, but lately I am jizzing inside there a bit more, and have them take a Plan B pill immediately afterwards. I'm surprised how many girls are up for this, but I think they enjoy some CIP too. The Plan B is about $40 at Walmart, but you can get them on Amazon for as low as $8 each:

https://www.amazon.com/Levonorgestrel-Emergency-Contraceptive-Tablet-Compare/dp/B07RZMG6ZM/

Interesting. I've been thinking about getting snipped next year when I file for divorce. (Been waiting for the kid to leave the nest.) I never thought about passing out plan B as a less invasive option. Do some SBs refuse?

[Peter Johnson]

I used to always pull out with the fertile SBs, but lately I am jizzing inside there a bit more, and have them take a Plan B pill immediately afterwards. I'm surprised how many girls are up for this, but I think they enjoy some CIP too. The Plan B is about $40 at Walmart, but you can get them on Amazon for as low as $8 each:

https://www.amazon.com/Levonorgestrel-Emergency-Contraceptive-Tablet-Compare/dp/B07RZMG6ZM/

[Peter Johnson]

If I get a second real phone line, is it inevitable that people can find out my name? Off the top of my head, I would have guessed that this is private information that the phone carrier is not allowed to share. How do sugar babies find out? Is there a way to sign up with a carrier and insist on a private number?

Just get a prepaid phone account and register it with a fake name or "Verizon Customer". Make up a name, address, etc and use refill topup cards to keep the account active. I haven't had a phone in my name in several years. No reason for it, even besides the dating aspect.

And I would still use a VOIP number, and something like Sudo or Text Now, over Google Voice. Google is terrible with data privacy, and I avoid them for everything but search, which I do behind VPN and isolate my cookies into tab groups.

[Peter Johnson]

I've been on Seeking for a long number of years. Way back when I joined, I put in my real age. Now that I'm almost to 60, I'm wondering if I would do better to create a new profile and shave 5 years off. I can pass for younger.

Do you other older guys like me use your real age? Do you think our prospects are hurt by it?

I shave about 4 years off mine. It can't hurt, and can only help to some degree.

[NewAnonymousName]

I've been on Seeking for a long number of years. Way back when I joined, I put in my real age. Now that I'm almost to 60, I'm wondering if I would do better to create a new profile and shave 5 years off. I can pass for younger.

Do you other older guys like me use your real age? Do you think our prospects are hurt by it?

[Hits79]

I fucked her a few times for half that last year. She's into anal which is hot, but I got real manic vibes from her. She let me CIP on future dates as long as I brought a Plan B. I felt like I lucked out and always caught her on a good day, but prior experience with manic-depressive girls meant I eventually pulled away. Nothing she ever did, she was sweet as could be when we were together, but I just I opted to listen to my gut.

Reviewing my old texts with her, she originally wanted 500 but I got her down to 3, and she hosted.

Trying to see if I can setup something with her now. We moved to text but haven't setup anything yet, I will report back and see if she's different or not.

[Hits79]

No_Gag_Maddy.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...0-ae80d517e4c0

Easy enough to move from the site to snap. Seems real, and was very upfront about sex. We tried to get together to hook up but couldn't make the timing work as she's near Griffin and doesn't have a car. Reached out again to schedule something and she blocked me. Not sure what went wrong. Easy to get nudes / vids from though, I'll post the jpgs. She also sent a few solo vids. Seemed like a fun time.

We never settled on $. She never brought it up directly, and our sexting was so hot and she seemed so horny I thought maybe she'd jump in to the sack just to get some w / o an amount. Just curious if anyone else has already smashed. Was open to BBJ and CIP / CIM, no anal. Cannot host.

I hate chatted with her also, moved to text really quick. But I never went for it, as she's not my type.

[TylerDurden07]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-11954fdcb2da

Man I was hoping this one was real. The private pics are hot!! Conversation was going great until she asked for hawks tickets in advance for meeting. Told her I wouldn't do it and ghosted me. Be safe out there guys.

We texted pretty extensively & she sent some really hot pics. I had to be in the Battery last night on some unrelated business so asked her to join me there for a drink. At first, she agreed with no conditions. Then an hour later she said she needed $400 for "groceries. " She really really tried to get me to advance it. I refused to advance. She then agreed to have some after-drinks fun with me after I told her she'd definitely get grocery money after we had fun in private.

Something still seemed off about her way of talking. I smelled a rat with her &, frankly didn't expect her to show. Ultimately, I was right, she didn't. I then confronted her about it over text & she barked about how I "couldn't even do (her) a favor" after she asked for it. Reminded her that "favors" are given when favors are gotten. Didn't hear a peep after that.

Her pics are stunning, gents. Don't waste your time & fall for it.

[Member #6718]

If you use GV on your regular smartphone, there is a non-zero possibility of your real life crossing over into your sugar life. IK people it has happened to who post on here.

For those of us w / SOs, this could be absolutely fatal. It isn't a good idea for you bachelors either, because it can provide a very simply way for a SB to learn your true identity.

I use GV to contact everyone. I was chatting w / a girl on seeking and she gave me her number. When I enter them into my phone, I usually give them a name and city in my contacts. However, she came up as a business already known to google. From all that I learned her real name, identity, etc. Etc.

Don't let this happen to you.

For a lot of these chicks, I give them my real number. I am single, and generally pretty open about my sugar lifestyle with people close to me. If they feel more pro or crazy I use GV but I use my regular number for 80% of women.