NoVA SugarBabies

[Member #6230]

Although I am new to this, I agree with you. It seems to me like most of the ones I've been in touch with do want some sort of relationship.

I am getting stuck in a bit of situation though where the SB wants to see me more often but I can't afford nor do I want to keep paying the PPM that often. How do you guys deal with this? Do you just suggest a monthly allowance which averages out to a lower PPM? For instance, my PPM $350. I might be ok with seeing her twice a month but what if she pushes for three or so times. I was thinking of suggesting an allowance of $600 and seeing her twice a month or $750 for three times, just spitting out ideas. I need a more experienced hand here. Maybe my budget is not high enough for this? I can only juggle two at the moment, which is more than enough.

I'll give this a shot, but realize there will be as many opinions as there are mongers.

First, you have to be honest with your budget, and that honesty might piss her off. 350 2 x a month isn't much to work with and probably doesn't put you that far above someone she could just vanilla date.

Second, you need to determine if she is pushing for more dates because she likes you or is trying to maximize how much she can get from you. Seeing someone you're fucking at minimum once once a week is pretty normal, and most young women will want sex more often than that.

But there are some things you can do that will help her see you in more favorable terms.

Suggest dates where she doesn't have to get dressed up. If you spend any time reading "sugar baby gossip groups" which are the opposite of what we do here, you're going to hear them complaining about how much time it takes to get ready, how much it costs to get their hair and nails done, how much the outfits cost and they feel justified in getting paid to meet your (all sd's) standards. They include the time it takes to get ready in the ppm in the simplest of terms.

Basically what you're going for here is a "relationship type" Netflix and chill. Ask her to come over in her sweatpants, hoodie, no makeup, because you just want to spend time together. I used to call this the "Tuesday special" she gets some money, an easy night without the pressure of the dog and pony show, we both get laid at a lower ppm. If you present this right, it will make sense to her. You can even point out how you want her to be able to spend time with her friends on Friday and Saturday. In her head, she may translate this to a higher paying opportunity with someone willing to pay more than you and you really have to be okay with that.

Personally, I could see asking a premium for weekend time if I were able to sell this beautiful dad bod to the highest budder.

The next thing you're going to want to do is get inside her mind as often as you get in between her legs. That means paying attention to what she cares about, remembering the things that are important to her, remembering her birthday, and figuring out how to make occasions out of things you don't actually give a shit about.

In 5 years when she looks at her boyfriend, and tells him you aren't shit. Right before she says this, you want her to think of you. So do the things that are going to stand out in her mind as someone she would be proud to tell her mother about if you weren't 25 years older than her.

If you really want to put the "does she like me or is she milking me (and fucking you the way you want) Buy her something small that will be more sentimental or practical than a pair of shoes.

Figure out what kind of snacks she likes. What kind of books she is into. Is she "an aspiring ceo" of her one man nail business? Girls like planners, motivational coffee mugs, vision boards, astrology, aura's, pyschic readings, all the shit you and I know is pointless.

I bought my last sugar baby a poetry book I knew she would like and guess what? She read that whole book to me over face time in the course of a couple days. That's a girl that likes you.

It's human nature to be reciprocal after receiving a gift. She might not be able to buy you something, but she knows what you like 🤣 if you don't see her reciprocating kind gestures, she doesn't value them or you any more than the money and the "let's spend more time together is just an act.

Personally, if that was my budget, I would probably stick to ppm and one night stands. That way neither of you get attached and you aren't living above your means to keep a girlfriend you can't afford.

The money is just an introduction, but it can also be used as a tool to keep proper boundaries. You're paying her, and treating her like an employee is part of the deal. Sometimes you have to shake their hand and wish them the best in their next job.

If you could get her to agree to $200 once a week, with 2 of those on days that are easy for her, that would be a solid sb/sd relationship especially if youre ok with her seeing other people on the nights she isnt with you. She can at least justify that as extra money with the opportunity to make more.

Thats my .02

[LouisHernandez]

Although I am new to this, I agree with you. It seems to me like most of the ones I've been in touch with do want some sort of relationship.

I am getting stuck in a bit of situation though where the SB wants to see me more often but I can't afford nor do I want to keep paying the PPM that often. How do you guys deal with this? Do you just suggest a monthly allowance which averages out to a lower PPM? For instance, my PPM $350. I might be ok with seeing her twice a month but what if she pushes for three or so times. I was thinking of suggesting an allowance of $600 and seeing her twice a month or $750 for three times, just spitting out ideas. I need a more experienced hand here. Maybe my budget is not high enough for this? I can only juggle two at the moment, which is more than enough.

If they actually like you they will work with you and drop the price. If they won't budge you know they just care about the coin. If the latter, you can continue with the once or twice a month routine, while fishing for something newer / better.

[AnonDemon69]

They want both, and if they are attractive enough they will likely be able to find it.

Pretend you're 22 and horny all the time. You want to fuck someone who can fuck you with some skill and not immediately fall madly in love. But you have bills. So you want to get paid too. And if they have half a brain they know there is an expiration date on how much they can get paid.

I honestly feel for the younger generation right now. Rent and everything else is through the roof. Combine that with ig addictions showing their followers how much fun they have with an awkward generation of young broke men and we have the perfect recipe for the sugar bowl.

What a time ti be alive.

Although I am new to this, I agree with you. It seems to me like most of the ones I've been in touch with do want some sort of relationship.

I am getting stuck in a bit of situation though where the SB wants to see me more often but I can't afford nor do I want to keep paying the PPM that often. How do you guys deal with this? Do you just suggest a monthly allowance which averages out to a lower PPM? For instance, my PPM $350. I might be ok with seeing her twice a month but what if she pushes for three or so times. I was thinking of suggesting an allowance of $600 and seeing her twice a month or $750 for three times, just spitting out ideas. I need a more experienced hand here. Maybe my budget is not high enough for this? I can only juggle two at the moment, which is more than enough.

[Member #6230]

Hmmm, you're getting it twisted. These girls just want money not some damn relationship with the busted dudes on SA.

Don't kid ourselves we're old and as much as we want to believe we're attractive. That's not the case for 99.9% of us.

So, they're here to drain as much $$$ as they can.

They want both, and if they are attractive enough they will likely be able to find it.

Pretend you're 22 and horny all the time. You want to fuck someone who can fuck you with some skill and not immediately fall madly in love. But you have bills. So you want to get paid too. And if they have half a brain they know there is an expiration date on how much they can get paid.

I honestly feel for the younger generation right now. Rent and everything else is through the roof. Combine that with ig addictions showing their followers how much fun they have with an awkward generation of young broke men and we have the perfect recipe for the sugar bowl.

What a time ti be alive.

[Tyrex2]

LOL. 1 Hour, "only" BBFS on a menu. Yep, that's a hooker. If she starts talking about hosting, just saying.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...8-d588746864e2

Started talking a month ago and she wanted 500 PPM, couldn't get her to agree to BBFS so I stopped. She randomly hits me up again and asks what's up, am I still interested? I told her she didn't want BBFS, she said she could do it if I had recent tests.

We get to talking and she apparently forgets what she said, offers 400 PPM for BBFS. I thought it was a score, but then things go south. Turns out, it was ONLY BBFS, no BJ or eating her pussy, and for only 1 hour. Cleary she's a cheap escort who's not used to providing GFE included in her prices.

I tell her I need BJ and eating pussy, she says 500, I tell her okay if she throws anal in too, she refuses. Long story short, here's what she sends me:

"I don't think your understanding my prices I only do sex for 500 with condoms that's just what it is I'm making an expectation with it being raw for 400 $ that's the minimum I'd go your asking for 4 services but only trying to pay the price for one. ".

"If that doesn't work with you it's okay I'm sure you'll find someone that doesn't look like me for less. ".

Then she sends me the pic I included below. That chubby ass, pancake nipple looking ugly biach LOL. I'm so glad I didn't see her.

[Mandane]

The delusion is strong with this one. When asked about ppm she indicated that her last arrangement was $7 K per month. That's PPS not GPS.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...9-757ad2dca95b

[Mcsylv]

Next time, after SB has cums enough, ask her to use her hands to get you close, then when you get the feeling that you will cum, tell her to get on top, grab her hips and use her like a fleshlight.

Cheers.

I don't get close from HJ or BJ, or sex with a condom. Only BBFS does it. I know this is not how 90% of guys are.

On the flip side, I don't really care about pussy or ass. Only time I ask for anal is if they want a high allowance and I need to make it worthwhile.

[VeryBigBuck]

I wouldn't keep seeing someone who insisted on condoms for 3 dates until they were horny and comfortable enough for BBFS. I cannot cum with a condom, it's literally a waste of time. Every time I have sex with a condom, I either go home with blue balls or just jack myself off after we've fucked for a while and I've made sure they're satisfied by eating them and fucking them until they get 1 or more orgasms. Usually cuddle a bit while they recover, then ask them to suck my balls while I jack off and that's how I have to finish if they don't BBFS.

Next time, after SB has cums enough, ask her to use her hands to get you close, then when you get the feeling that you will cum, tell her to get on top, grab her hips and use her like a fleshlight.

Cheers.

[Joe1278]

Barbie.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-f6e865fcf859

https://ladys.one/it/escort-pittsbur...la-fox-i630359

[Sesadmv]

We have chatted a bit back and forth. Any past experiences or information anyone can share?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...e-bafed820f3d5

[BobLobLa]

I'm going to be in town next month and have a Saturday afternoon free of the wife.

Any info on.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...2-51926784ff1b -- seems TGTBT and too young for a Georgetown MBA and says she thinks mentoring from an SD is stupid and boring.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-1b40ffdeb23d -- semi pro vibe.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...b-d63d827cb894 -- pics look mighty polished.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-4ef8dcad2afc - definite pro, went straight to text.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...e-bcab99d7a084 - killer bod. Getting the sense she's not a fan of married guys.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-2c461df96377 - so my type. Seems to get it, but slow on comms.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-7e85451e5f0e - mentioned early on she can't host, so definitely knows the score. Maybe too well.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...3-717e0035e5b6 - initial interaction very positive.

[FogHorn1]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...2-8071bfc43fe5

Any one have any intel on her? Started chatting but something seems off. I'm always skeptical when a girl is eager to meet, accepts a midlevel offer without the typical "my last arranged was XYZ" and doesn't ask for pics, etc.

[Vamassage Fan]

Been chatting with this one. Something seems familiar about her and that maybe I ran into her pre-pamdemic. Conversation also a bit Weird. Does anyone remember this one from a few years ago, maybe in the Sterling / Herndon area? Thanks.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...c-833c260f4b97

A bit strange, chatted with her and she seemed fine, but set up plans to meet for dinner and she never showed, later texted she'd had an auto accident. We tried once more, daye, time and place set. She even texted to say she was on her way. But then never showed and went silent. Flaky at best. Also would love to know if anyone has had a good experience with her.

[FogHorn1]

This is that lady that had male accomplices assist in mugging SD's near Eorld Gate in Herndon, right?

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...f-2942e575c9f0

No she is not the one. This one works at an Optical store.

I followed this pretty closely when it was going down, the various profiles. Etc. I don't know anything about an optical store, and I'm not sure how that would exclude her from being the mugger anyway? I'll say if this isn't here, this girl could be the twin sister of the mugger.

[RegularJoe1985]

No she is not the one. This one works at an Optical store.

The fact that she works at an Optical store doesn't take away from the fact that she could be the one.

Which optical store does she work at?