"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**JaJunk** · 01-06-23 08:43

Originally Posted by VABird12 [View Original Post]

I can see why this is her 3rd account, I've seen her since Halloween of this year at least 2 a month. And normally it was on dates and fucked twice only so out of 6 visits only hooked up 2 times. But we would hang out and go out on dates. Ppm on the first and second date when we hooked up. The other times she said she was hungry so I took her out to eat. Now everything was going okay until the last 2 weekends of the year. I don't really ever prepay or do any deposits but she asked for 100 for Christmas so she could get something from her family and told me she will make it up too me. I was thinking okay I mean we text and snap all the time we got a Good relationship so why not.

Dumbass #1 and then she told me she wanted to hang out with me for NYE and stay over my place, I was like hell yea. The day of NYE I asked what time I should pick her up she replied "Idk I'm fixing to get discharged form the er because one of my cyct popped" and also someone broke my door at the hotel I was staying at so they are about to kick me out. Sends me a clip of the broke door. I need 200 for them to get it replaced before I leave.

Dumbass#2 I send the money. Then crickets after that. I can't blame anyone else but myself. Now every time I tried to fuck her she had an excuse on why she can't, I'm bleeding, my blah blah blah is hurting, etc. Man I should have dumped her ass a longtime ago. She blocked me on SA so I can't even get the link for her account added. But I have some pictures LOL.

I had a feeling she was doing this to others and they were reporting her before she did the reporting first, well she beat me to the punch now I know why she is on her third account.

Been talking to her. Seems DTF, but all over the place. Thanks for helping avoid this one. I like a little crazy, but seems like one to skip.

**BobLobLa** · 01-06-23 00:01

Anyone having any luck with Redheads they could share? Never had one, been on my bucket list.

I'd post links, but figure easier to have verified suggested.

Thanks.

**Tyrex2** · 01-05-23 22:57

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...d-0f3544a6490a

A bunny ears wearing women who has a goddess complex and a 5 body at best. I wonder what color the sky is in her world.

**BamBam** · 01-05-23 11:38

Originally Posted by GoinDonkey [View Original Post]

Are these the same girl?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...b-4c6fc4607d2e

Originally Posted by WilliamsJJ703 [View Original Post]

In the bathroom pic she has a tattoo on her right shoulder and in the yellow shirt there is not one.

So what does this all tell you? Not a damn thing for certain! Ha. You will have to make your own conclusion.

It's nitpicking I know but...here I go anyway. The profile pic is a mirror image. The tattoo is on the left should which is hidden in the beach pic. No way to be sure. However, I am intrigued: what prompts the question?

BAM.

**AssLuVA** · 01-05-23 09:50

Originally Posted by GoinDonkey [View Original Post]

Are these the same girl?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...b-4c6fc4607d2e

I agree with XAXADO that it's impossible to tell for sure since her face is blocked. Nothing pulled up in an image search for me so not sure but you can tell a few differences between the pix.

In the bathroom pic she has a tattoo on her right shoulder and in the yellow shirt there is not one.

She also looks super skinny in the bathroom pic and only skinny in the yellow shirt pic.

She has a belly ring in both pics.

So what does this all tell you? Not a damn thing for certain! Ha. You will have to make your own conclusion.

**Xaxado** · 01-05-23 09:20

Originally Posted by GoinDonkey [View Original Post]

Are these the same girl?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...b-4c6fc4607d2e

I think it's impossible to tell with her face being blanked out on her SA profile. It looks like they have the same color hair and a similar body, but that doesn't really mean anything.

**OliverNP** · 01-05-23 08:03

Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]

I've got a long time occasional, on again / off again FWB I've been seeing since she was 19. She's 36 now. I really enjoy her company and she's fun to hang out with and super smart (but somehow can't put it to good use), but mentally she's a mess. Definite psychological disorders from a shitty upbringing, DCF removing her from her parent's home because they were a mess, bouncing around foster homes, eventually being adopted, etc. I love her, but there's a reason she's a FWB and not a girlfriend. She can make life hell, so I have to compartmentalize her and share the good but not the bad.

Anyway, I wonder what the truth is with her. She, too, has always liked older men. She'll swear 'till the cows come home that she was never sexually abused, but I seriously have my doubts. To the topic at hand, when we have sex, not during a quick "let's fuck for fun" session but when the sex is really loving and deeply personal she'll spontaneously suck her thumb. She's done this forever and still to this day. And to this day, I still don't know how to read that. Is our sex bringing up deeply buried past traumatic experiences? Am I hurting her psychologically? Is this just something she does? Is she enjoying a DD / LG fantasy in her head? I'll never know, every time I bring it up she brushes the topic off. I would hate if this is hurting her somehow, but on another level it's REALLY hot.

The mind is indeed a strange place.

RE: the lust for older men, some girls just have it, and it's real. There may be some that are trying to stroke our ego when they say they like older guys, but most of the girls I know have a very genuine attraction to older men, and my observation has been that this is not necessarily tied to any form of sexual abuse. I do think it is more environmental than genetic -- their upbringing, relationships with male relatives etc. Can completely impact their age preference, but I'm not sure that's the only factor. If anyone ever thinks they are just saying what we want to hear, just read some of the sugar baby threads. Often they talk about never being able to go back to guys their age, not only because of the support but that sugaring changed their preference from age-similar to much older men. Further evidence it's nurture over nature driving that urge, it's an acquired taste some of them just develop.

RE: her sucking her thumb: If in your shoes I would probably say to her "somehow that's really hot when you start sucking your thumb during sex". It may prompt the dialog that reveals the root cause, or at least lead to even more fun times.

**GoinDonkey** · 01-04-23 22:20

Are these the same girl?

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...b-4c6fc4607d2e

**FarFarAway** · 01-04-23 18:30

Originally Posted by Vudu33 [View Original Post]

Looks like they fixed this. I get upgrade to read in the message body when going through all these steps.

Yes, this has been known for a long time. You might even find the notice of that in the archive threads.

**Member #6470** · 01-04-23 14:11

Originally Posted by CrazySpice [View Original Post]

This procedure works to read messages but it takes lot of time to search and identify messages out of thousands of php scripting words. It would be worth if there is a way to reply messages. Do you know how to reply messages?

Looks like they fixed this. I get upgrade to read in the message body when going through all these steps.

**Tyrex2** · 01-04-23 09:46

Originally Posted by VABird12 [View Original Post]

I can see why this is her 3rd account, I've seen her since Halloween of this year at least 2 a month. And normally it was on dates and fucked twice only so out of 6 visits only hooked up 2 times. But we would hang out and go out on dates. Ppm on the first and second date when we hooked up. The other times she said she was hungry so I took her out to eat. Now everything was going okay until the last 2 weekends of the year. I don't really ever prepay or do any deposits but she asked for 100 for Christmas so she could get something from her family and told me she will make it up too me. I was thinking okay I mean we text and snap all the time we got a Good relationship so why not.

Dumbass #1 and then she told me she wanted to hang out with me for NYE and stay over my place, I was like hell yea. The day of NYE I asked what time I should pick her up she replied "Idk I'm fixing to get discharged form the er because one of my cyct popped" and also someone broke my door at the hotel I was staying at so they are about to kick me out. Sends me a clip of the broke door. I need 200 for them to get it replaced before I leave.

Dumbass#2 I send the money. Then crickets after that. I can't blame anyone else but myself. Now every time I tried to fuck her she had an excuse on why she can't, I'm bleeding, my blah blah blah is hurting, etc. Man I should have dumped her ass a longtime ago. She blocked me on SA so I can't even get the link for her account added. But I have some pictures LOL.

I had a feeling she was doing this to others and they were reporting her before she did the reporting first, well she beat me to the punch now I know why she is on her third account.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...2-9051e8177fe9 is the link.

Not for nothing, but I'm chalking it up to holiday soft heart. Rest I'm sending via PM just in case this is being read, but out about same in cash and a little extra actually LOL. And I got a present as well which required a visit to my doc, which I cannot fully discuss here. So, if anyone is interested in details and may have seen her, PM me.

**Xaxado** · 01-04-23 09:00

Originally Posted by WilliamsJJ703 [View Original Post]

So, has anyone actually met up with this one yet?

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...b-7046f36ccd7c

There has been very little intel on her and she's been on the site for 3 years. She is hitting me up again and sounds like fun but she can never follow through so am curious if any of you all have had luck. If so, DM me the details. Would love to know if she is worth the trouble. Thanks!

I went through the same thing with her about a year ago. She could never follow through, so I gave up.

**Member #6951** · 01-04-23 08:43

I'll second the perception that there is often some deep trauma behind some D / S kinks. One of my early SBs was incredibly submissive and liked real pain — the harder I'd slap her pussy, the wetter her explosion. She would ask me to slap her right across the face. It got to the point where if we were deep in the play, I could just look at her a certain way and make her cum (she was a squirter so this was completely genuine). But she told me about some serious shit in her past (like kidnapped as a teenager shit) that was incredibly traumatic. Over the years I've probed into others that were submissive and there was often something similar in their past. I can't say whether it is correlation or causation — we don't like to face the reality that a lot of women have experienced sexual trauma because of some bad actors out there — and there are definitely women who come from stable and loving backgrounds that are also into some seriously kinky shit. The mind is a strange place.

There are all sorts of flavors to DD / LG. It is a fine line to be sure between hot and creepy for me. Same can be said for a lot of other play — CNC, breeding, etc. Communication and trust are key — and sometimes hard to come by when both parties are practicing standard OpSec.

**Kwagmire** · 01-04-23 07:51

Originally Posted by OliverNP [View Original Post]

I have heard of cases of sexual abuse resulting in the victim developing an appetite for same. One SB I knew told me she was raped (not so much through violence but coercion / grooming) by someone that lived in her neighborhood in her early teens. She said while that particular experience disgusted her, she said she really felt that was what triggered her lust for older men. She was already flirting with and trying to get 50+ year old guys to take the bait by the time she was 15 or 16. Out of genuine sexual desire, too.

Similar could happen with incest I'm sure. Traumatic experience results in craving for more. The mind is a strange place.

I've got a long time occasional, on again / off again FWB I've been seeing since she was 19. She's 36 now. I really enjoy her company and she's fun to hang out with and super smart (but somehow can't put it to good use), but mentally she's a mess. Definite psychological disorders from a shitty upbringing, DCF removing her from her parent's home because they were a mess, bouncing around foster homes, eventually being adopted, etc. I love her, but there's a reason she's a FWB and not a girlfriend. She can make life hell, so I have to compartmentalize her and share the good but not the bad.

Anyway, I wonder what the truth is with her. She, too, has always liked older men. She'll swear 'till the cows come home that she was never sexually abused, but I seriously have my doubts. To the topic at hand, when we have sex, not during a quick "let's fuck for fun" session but when the sex is really loving and deeply personal she'll spontaneously suck her thumb. She's done this forever and still to this day. And to this day, I still don't know how to read that. Is our sex bringing up deeply buried past traumatic experiences? Am I hurting her psychologically? Is this just something she does? Is she enjoying a DD / LG fantasy in her head? I'll never know, every time I bring it up she brushes the topic off. I would hate if this is hurting her somehow, but on another level it's REALLY hot.

The mind is indeed a strange place.