NoVA SugarBabies

**DasHottCalla** · 01-01-23 17:37

Originally Posted by ChiefQueef [View Original Post]

What's up with this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...5-98ea3f5b3014

I've seen her / him / it create over 5 profiles in a month or so. Any of you gents dealing with her? Clearly sus, but I'm just curious if she is real and has been dealt with before.

Texted this one on her older page. She wanted to be paid for the meet and greet. I refused, so we didn't meet.

**CuriousVaMan** · 01-01-23 13:54

Yea, I don't know if she's real. I;'m in contact with her via text. Wanted to meetup that night, sent some nudes pics, then comms went sporadic.

Originally Posted by Emesdee [View Original Post]

This one looks familiar, I feel like she was reviewed in the past and maybe this is a new profile. Anyone recognize or remember what was said about her? https://members.seeking.com/member/d...2-dc35fb6c1dd6.

**Member #7156** · 01-01-23 13:14

Originally Posted by ChiefQueef [View Original Post]

What's up with this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...5-98ea3f5b3014

I've seen her / him / it create over 5 profiles in a month or so. Any of you gents dealing with her? Clearly sus, but I'm just curious if she is real and has been dealt with before.

Real or not, just based on the profile, it would be a hard pass for me. I don't like dealing with entitled SBs.

**ChiefQueef** · 01-01-23 12:45

What's up with this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...5-98ea3f5b3014

I've seen her / him / it create over 5 profiles in a month or so. Any of you gents dealing with her? Clearly sus, but I'm just curious if she is real and has been dealt with before.

**Member #7156** · 01-01-23 03:01

This one looks familiar, I feel like she was reviewed in the past and maybe this is a new profile. Anyone recognize or remember what was said about her? https://members.seeking.com/member/d...2-dc35fb6c1dd6.

**GMarts018** · 12-31-22 17:22

Originally Posted by ProCatHunter [View Original Post]

I've been in the bowl for over a decade. Have a few SBs who I've been seeing for years now. SBs who have been in rotation for years are more than friends, but less than an SO.

Hard to not have an emotional connection with someone you've been banging for months or years.

The trick is to figure out which of the girls are stage 5 clingers and cut them early, and which ones have the capacity to understand boundaries. The latter are extremely hard to find, but worth keeping around.

And of course there are plenty of men who will also confuse the chemical release that comes when you meet a PYT for the first time and hit it off with her; and believe that they are in love. Once you bang enough of them, its easier to compartmentalize your sugar life with your real one.

Finally, if you're playing in the bowl because you hate your SO or real life, then the issue isn't that you've allowed yourself to become emotionally attached to your SB, it's that you're looking for an escape from your real life.

I had one SB that I would've definitely wifed up. I don't even care how we met or who else she was with LOL. It's only happened once tho.

**ProCatHunter** · 12-31-22 10:19

I've been in the bowl for over a decade. Have a few SBs who I've been seeing for years now. SBs who have been in rotation for years are more than friends, but less than an SO.

Hard to not have an emotional connection with someone you've been banging for months or years.

The trick is to figure out which of the girls are stage 5 clingers and cut them early, and which ones have the capacity to understand boundaries. The latter are extremely hard to find, but worth keeping around.

And of course there are plenty of men who will also confuse the chemical release that comes when you meet a PYT for the first time and hit it off with her; and believe that they are in love. Once you bang enough of them, its easier to compartmentalize your sugar life with your real one.

Finally, if you're playing in the bowl because you hate your SO or real life, then the issue isn't that you've allowed yourself to become emotionally attached to your SB, it's that you're looking for an escape from your real life.

Originally Posted by JackRyan1 [View Original Post]

That is spot on accurate. That's how I operated also.

Warning. Don't cross the emotional boundary, especially if married. It's a deep dark hole.

**AnonDemon69** · 12-31-22 01:15

Originally Posted by RudyWellz [View Original Post]

Welcome to the Sugar Bowl. It is phenomenal. This is what has worked for me over the past 8 years. Others likely have different advice based on what worked for them. Full disclosure, 55, married, great shape, 5'8", balding, impeccable dresser, extrovert, smart and have "Game".

-Make contact on Seeking and get them off that platform and to text. You can say things on text that will get you banned on Seeking.

-Never send money in advance to any SB that you are not in an arrangement with. Never.

-Never pay for a M&G (meet and greet). If they insist for money to meet, politely decline and move on.

-Meet in public and set up the expectation for arrangement dates=sex=payment. Occasionally the first M&G will become the first BCD's meeting, so always be prepared, but don't expect or push for it.

-You have the $$, therefore negotiate from a position of strength. This is my formula and if the SB doesn't fit, the next one will. I do PPM $400-500. I only play in Arlington / Tysons (occasionally Alexandria) and have had SB's drive to me from MoCo, PG, Lorton, Manassas, and Ashburn. My sweet spot is late afternoon and weekends. Connected with a beautiful young Columbian with a banging body, but she worked 9-5 pm and spent weekends with her family. Didn't work for me.

-No matter how hot the SB is, You will be happiest sticking to a formula that works for you.

Good Luck.

Thank you for the response. It's exactly how I was thinking of operating. I am getting bombarded with messages, which is expected and shows how much in control we are in this arrangement. In other apps, the girls are the ones in control. There are also a few that are from way out of town, seems like they are fishing for online arrangements or a trip, I am just going to assume that I should stay from that. I have connected with someone that wants to meet next week, will let you guys know how it goes. She has already implied in PPM if I like her, perhaps during the same meeting.

**Dimples572** · 12-30-22 22:54

Nice chick, seemed cool and I'm pretty sure she's real. Sent me a pic with my name on it (could've been fake, who knows) but was adamant about sending half up front. Wouldn't budge and neither would I so we ended at a stalemate.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-4ed752af8f85

**JackRyan1** · 12-30-22 19:06

That is spot on accurate. That's how I operated also.

Warning. Don't cross the emotional boundary, especially if married. It's a deep dark hole.

Originally Posted by RudyWellz [View Original Post]

Welcome to the Sugar Bowl. It is phenomenal. This is what has worked for me over the past 8 years. Others likely have different advice based on what worked for them. Full disclosure, 55, married, great shape, 5'8", balding, impeccable dresser, extrovert, smart and have "Game".

-Make contact on Seeking and get them off that platform and to text. You can say things on text that will get you banned on Seeking.

-Never send money in advance to any SB that you are not in an arrangement with. Never.

-Never pay for a M&G (meet and greet). If they insist for money to meet, politely decline and move on.

-Meet in public and set up the expectation for arrangement dates=sex=payment. Occasionally the first M&G will become the first BCD's meeting, so always be prepared, but don't expect or push for it.

-You have the $$, therefore negotiate from a position of strength. This is my formula and if the SB doesn't fit, the next one will. I do PPM $400-500. I only play in Arlington / Tysons (occasionally Alexandria) and have had SB's drive to me from MoCo, PG, Lorton, Manassas, and Ashburn. My sweet spot is late afternoon and weekends. Connected with a beautiful young Columbian with a banging body, but she worked 9-5 pm and spent weekends with her family. Didn't work for me.

-No matter how hot the SB is, You will be happiest sticking to a formula that works for you.

Good Luck.

**Rudy Wellz** · 12-30-22 18:57

Originally Posted by AnonDemon69 [View Original Post]

New to this. Signed up to SA. Just wondering if you guys just plain ask if intimacy is included in the PPM or if you sorta just bring it up during the actual meeting. I assume these women are in this site knowing the drill, but some profiles and some of your reports are throwing me off.

Welcome to the Sugar Bowl. It is phenomenal. This is what has worked for me over the past 8 years. Others likely have different advice based on what worked for them. Full disclosure, 55, married, great shape, 5'8", balding, impeccable dresser, extrovert, smart and have "Game".

-Make contact on Seeking and get them off that platform and to text. You can say things on text that will get you banned on Seeking.

-Never send money in advance to any SB that you are not in an arrangement with. Never.

-Never pay for a M&G (meet and greet). If they insist for money to meet, politely decline and move on.

-Meet in public and set up the expectation for arrangement dates=sex=payment. Occasionally the first M&G will become the first BCD's meeting, so always be prepared, but don't expect or push for it.

-You have the $$, therefore negotiate from a position of strength. This is my formula and if the SB doesn't fit, the next one will. I do PPM $400-500. I only play in Arlington / Tysons (occasionally Alexandria) and have had SB's drive to me from MoCo, PG, Lorton, Manassas, and Ashburn. My sweet spot is late afternoon and weekends. Connected with a beautiful young Columbian with a banging body, but she worked 9-5 pm and spent weekends with her family. Didn't work for me.

-No matter how hot the SB is, You will be happiest sticking to a formula that works for you.

Good Luck.

**Tyrex2** · 12-30-22 18:45

So I'm just guessing this might be a violation of TOS on seeking. But may also explain why some of this shit lately seems a bit odd in the chats. Apparently somebody is trying to monetize a SD screening service.

**Rudy Wellz** · 12-30-22 18:32

Originally Posted by Dimples572 [View Original Post]

LOL no. Just one or the other. I try to stay away from the ones seeking an allowance, at least initially upfront I try to sell them on a ppm arrangement and then if things are going well for a month or two we can discuss an allowance.

Allowances create expectations. SD: I'm paying you $X, so I want to see you why times, especially next weekend. SB: SD is paying me $X, I don't feel like seeing him this week, but he's requesting and I don't want to upset him. Whereas PPM means I want to see you and you want to see me, so let's do it. I get the SB's that want an allowance. I would too. PPM are more transactional and some SB's equate that with sex work.

I will not entertain any conversations of an allowance. PPM or next!

**Rudy Wellz** · 12-30-22 18:22

Originally Posted by GuyInTheCorner [View Original Post]

I've had a handful of experiences where real feelings developed. It can go poorly unless you have a solid head on your shoulders and communicate effectively.

First experience. Relatively early on in my sugaring days, met someone, we connected instantly, and she agreed we would not really have the sugar part. The lack of boundaries scared me a little and I was definitely more into her than I should have been. She moved away so it resolved itself. (Fun fact, her profile pic for a while was her holding a Plan B I bought her. Looking back, we should have had sugar from the get-go and had I been more in touch with my non-monogamous side I probably could have navigated that, because neither of us intended to be exclusive.

Second experience. About a year later, had an incredible ongoing arrangement with a lovely young woman. Sexual chemistry firing on all cylinders plus logistical convenience that led to regular meetings as much as 2-3 times a week. We genuinely connected on multiple levels and I found myself falling for her a bit. It seemed like she was doing the same. She moved in with her folks and that brought it to an end. Looking back, I think had I been able to communicate more directly and effectively, I could have resolved my concerns and kept the dynamic where it belonged. (Fun fact, she is back out on her own again and I still see her from time to time. It's fun but the magic of the original visits is gone.).

Third experience. Last year, hit it off with someone who was definitely falling for me. She wasn't consistently obsessive, and there was a d / s component to the dynamic so it was somewhat wrapped up in that, but it was clear she was over a line I did not want her to cross over. In her defense, the time together was pretty electric, but I most definitely did not not feel the same way. I cut it off, which was drama laden but that helped convince me it was for the best.

Fourth experience. Around the same time, also hit it off with another SB. She's very much my speed on multiple levels, and our chemistry is electric. She was somewhat experienced in poly life and also incredibly clear and communicative. Through our conversations and time together I broke through my own barriers on monogamy and got comfortable with the fact that a part of me really cared for her, and that she cared for me, and that did not undermine or take away from my feelings in my primary relationship. Again, communication has been essential in all of this. We've been together for over a year and it is by far the best arrangement I've had. One of the best relationships I've had. It is healthy and positive and supportive in all ways.

Moral of this story is that you absolutely can enjoy a mature and healthy relationship within a sugar context, but it takes time, chemistry, logistics, and communication.

Great post. Congratulations on Fourth experience and your great sugar relationship.

I have 2 experiences.

Young, smart and sexy SB but not much you can do with an anthropology degree. Trying to find herself and we connected and had a 2 year arrangement. She offered me essentially unlimited access in exchange for paying her half of the rent. The math absolutely worked in my favor. Unfortunately, with increased frequency, the chemistry decreased and the novelty wore off. As a married man, didn't need any additional relationship expectations or obligations. Ended the relationship and she moved out of the country.

Fast forward to my Covid SB. When everything was shut down we spent an incredible amount of time together. She had her own place, gave me a key and we really grew close. She was my #1 SB, but she wanted me to become her boyfriend'ish. After about 18 months, she suggested that we stop the PPM and that I just help her out occasionally with funds. That lasted about 2 months. Then the expectations for my time increased. When I couldn't make a dinner with her best friend from out of town, she absolutely lost it. Then cried when we met to talk about it. That was the last time that I saw her. Had to cut it off.

**GAGuy2020** · 12-30-22 15:41

Little further south but a few SBs tried to do what I call "dating". This ain't dating if you get payments but can give her the illusion if it make her feel like she's not an escort.

My buddy's top girl started to catch feelings and wanted to not charge, exchange full names, and go out. Had passion with her but never left the hotel. Had to decline because real dating is too much upkeep and had to keep the expectation what that was is physical only with passion of lovers.

Not here to hand out free meals or pay while making sure she is satisfied but willing to paint date or girlfriend illusion for feelings. She's paid to make the man's needs first, not paid for her to acknowledge you or make you jump through dating or waiting hoops.

Money and gifts off the table and we can date as equals but most want the money to flow and have multiple daddies they don't want to give up. Hooked on easy money but girl not charging and just going to SB site to find a good guy are dangerous/broken. Pay, play house, next.

The problem is girls minds are not designed for physical long term long term and some fools are actually using the site to exclusive date or find husbands. They want more and can risk getting upset if they don't get it. Had to cut it off before risk but was fun and hot! Just gotta be gentle to show them this ain't tender if paid.

If you are single go for it but you can't save a 304. Enjoy them, connect, treat them right, but don't fall in love long term. Too many risks and a good quality wife ain't a 2nd hand SB/escort. No hate and be nice, my buddy even had stronger bonds with SBs than girls actually dated but they are still arrangements not relationships. There is a reason these amazing girls are single or aren't already made wives.