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  1. #2954
    Quote Originally Posted by WarpFactor69  [View Original Post]
    There are plenty examples on this site, talking about escorts that were on Mega personals or skip the games that moved to TNA, then inflated their prices. Same thing with Tryst and Private Delights.
    There are definitely some white knights who find them on other sites that are cheaper and tell them about T and A for reasons.

  2. #2953

    This, exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by Jd058  [View Original Post]
    Agree but disagree.

    Can they keep their schedules straight and their shit together? Not always. Do they see the prices their competition is charging and adjust their own? Absolutely.

    Perfect example. Dominic Dimes in Salem. She was a 250 or 300/ hr girl when she came into town, started advertising on STG, etc. A few weeks later, she got on TNA, her prices jumped to 400/ hr.

    Monkey see, Monkey do. Not saying it's a collusion, but I do think they all see the prices others are charging and increase their own.
    There are plenty examples on this site, talking about escorts that were on Mega personals or skip the games that moved to TNA, then inflated their prices. Same thing with Tryst and Private Delights.

    For the other poster that gave the example of blonde Tabitha, have you considered expanding your research? My point was that prices are artificially inflated in the PNW compared to other metropolitan areas, and your response is to refer to a local high priced escort? That just validates my point.

    Housing in California is MUCH higher than it is here, and gas is a dollar more per gallon. Yet I can easily find gorgeous young fully GFE beauties for $300 an hour there. The cost of escorts in other metropolitan areas has not risen as sharply as the Pacific Northwest. I refuse to be part of the problem.

  3. #2952
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alas5877  [View Original Post]
    Guys, These gals can't even maintain their own schedules. You honestly think they're smart Or organized enough to collude with each other to fix prices? I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve. Prices are up, because every thing else is up. Simple.
    Agree but disagree.

    Can they keep their schedules straight and their shit together? Not always. Do they see the prices their competition is charging and adjust their own? Absolutely.

    Perfect example. Dominic Dimes in Salem. She was a 250 or 300/ hr girl when she came into town, started advertising on STG, etc. A few weeks later, she got on TNA, her prices jumped to 400/ hr.

    Monkey see, Monkey do. Not saying it's a collusion, but I do think they all see the prices others are charging and increase their own.

  4. #2951
    Quote Originally Posted by Alas5877  [View Original Post]
    Guys, These gals can't even maintain their own schedules. You honestly think they're smart Or organized enough to collude with each other to fix prices? I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve. Prices are up, because every thing else is up. Simple.
    I agree. The straw man argument. "That one time this one thing happened, so it makes it true all the time."

  5. #2950

    Non Sequitur

    Quote Originally Posted by Alas5877  [View Original Post]
    Guys, These gals can't even maintain their own schedules. You honestly think they're smart Or organized enough to collude with each other to fix prices? I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve. Prices are up, because every thing else is up. Simple.
    Whether or not the providers are colluding or not is irrelevant. (Side note. I think your misogyny is showing by thinking they aren't "smart enough" to work together.) And, your post appears to be dissuading us pooners from working together, so who's the smart ones again? The bottom line is we are the consumers and therefore we drive the market. Theoretically anyway. All I am suggesting is that we flex our consumer strength and bring about some changes in the local market to align with what many of us are seeing in other markets. In solidarity, Misterjimmy.

  6. #2949

    Collusion

    Quote Originally Posted by Nunya206  [View Original Post]
    Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize prices or price levels. Generally, the antitrust laws require that each company establish prices and other competitive terms on its own, without agreeing with a competitor.

    It's time to correct the market. The loudest and most entitled voices are the ones with the highest rate and least recent reviews. That constantly need to tour because only a few people in their city see them.

    It's time for hobbyist solidarity.
    Guys, These gals can't even maintain their own schedules. You honestly think they're smart Or organized enough to collude with each other to fix prices? I think you're giving them more credit than they deserve. Prices are up, because every thing else is up. Simple.

  7. #2948

    Found it

    I found the post that includes the thumbnail of the escort asking another to agree to a higher price. To view it click on the words "view original post"

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoTheLion  [View Original Post]
    Yes! I've been fighting the urge to ***** about prices and deposits too.

    As soon as a chick asks for one, that is a nope for me. I don't care how much safer you feel because you just ghosted me after taking my money.

    And speaking of prices, it is insane how much some of these people ask for. One of my friends, she sent me a picture of a message she got. These greedy broads trying to pull some collusion shit, price gouging all the way to the bank. These white knights getting ripped off and they don't even know it.

    Unless they are model status there is no way anyone should be charging that much. It is cool they are making double the money for the same work, but my broke ass did not get a 50 percent raise.

    And I am going to kiss ass a bit, I am a big fan of the admin here and how he gives the smackdown to some indivuals.

  8. #2947

    Price fixing

    I generally disagree. I workout and used to buy chicken thighs at 1. 99 per lb 2-3 years ago. Currently chicken thighs are 7. 99 lb at my local new seasons. Chicken thighs cost what salmon would sometimes cost like 2 years ago which is crazy. I went to the store yesterday and some stuff that would have cost maybe 30 bucks 1-2 years ago is now 55-60 bucks.

    Prices with escorts are probably up about 100 per hour on average. I research escorts I plan to see very intensely to thoroughly vet them, and go through lots of their old postings and you can see how things change over time. Blondetabatha wants 450 per hour today, and wanted 350 per hour 1 year ago and 2 years before that wanted 300 per hour. However it is what it is. Eventually the market will correct itself (my understanding is prices came down quite a bit with the COVID recession to absolute bargain basement levels). There's also probably a recession right around the corner which will drive prices down as well. But right now the price increases are to cover general cost of life increases these ladies have to manage (they have kids, rent, bills, etc and like all of us the cost of living has gone up for obvious reasons). If they keep the price the same, then they have to increase volume which is not desirable either for most of us. Most of these ladies really don't have their life stuff together in general (thus why they are escorts and strippers and not high priced lawyers) and with higher volumes you have more ghosting, distracted bad service, complaints, etc etc with a group of ladies who in my opinion are generally pretty disorganized and flakey at baseline. That's probably the thing that disgusts me the most of about this hobby: its not the risk of disease or getting arrested (both of which seem pretty low if you approach it smartly), its the damn flakiness of these "alleged" businesswomen. If real businesses were that flaky, they'd be out of business in 10 seconds.

    On a more silly note, I also kind of have been insulated from the price adjustments because prior I would always tip 50 to 100 dollars anyway. Now I just don't tip...

  9. #2946

    No nut December

    Price fixing is an agreement (written, verbal, or inferred from conduct) among competitors to raise, lower, maintain, or stabilize prices or price levels. Generally, the antitrust laws require that each company establish prices and other competitive terms on its own, without agreeing with a competitor.

    It's time to correct the market. The loudest and most entitled voices are the ones with the highest rate and least recent reviews. That constantly need to tour because only a few people in their city see them.

    It's time for hobbyist solidarity.

  10. #2945
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarpFactor69  [View Original Post]
    I can't find it right now, but in the Washington section someone posted a screenshot of a letter that an escort sent to another one, asking if she would agree to raise her prices to a certain amount.

    The prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high compared to other metropolitan areas, because of the tight knit community that talks to each other, encouraging them to agree to higher prices. I understand there is also suppression of bad reviews, and removal of notices posted by men against bad escorts.

    The same thing with escort rates happened in the Tampa market, which according to my buddy in Orlando, has significantly higher prices than Orlando.

    There is a no shortage of pussy in the PNW. However there is a shortage of men that have enough backbone to say no, and walk away from greedy pussy. I choose not to be part of the problem.

    It's unfortunate that the men of the Pacific Northwest do not realize they are the ones holding the money, and the power they have as the paying customers.
    I have to agree with you; feels like the prices just keep going higher while the list of knows keeps getting higher, service quality is going down, and robs / service scammers become more common. It's just not worth it. Imo the selection here wasn't always perfect compared to what I'm used to but man the usual sites like stg are like 90% obvious phone number farmers or scammers and the other 10% are like 50 year hunchbacks on every drug under the sun saying they're 20 and trying to charge $$ for hh just to make a corpse seem more active, hah.

    I've been exploring less and going with my regulars more often, though I feel like there's not all that great of a selection at sane prices anymore. Kind of funny that even the under the table services are going up in price lmao.

  11. #2944

    High Prices

    I agree. I will pay 300 for an hour with a good provider but so many are asking 400 and are just not very appealing. Limited menus and not good looking. The attitude alone is a huge turn off. I will happily ask for a lower rate now a days and often the request is honored.

    But even still there are not many options it seems.

    Quote Originally Posted by WarpFactor69  [View Original Post]
    I can't find it right now, but in the Washington section someone posted a screenshot of a letter that an escort sent to another one, asking if she would agree to raise her prices to a certain amount.

    The prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high compared to other metropolitan areas, because of the tight knit community that talks to each other, encouraging them to agree to higher prices. I understand there is also suppression of bad reviews, and removal of notices posted by men against bad escorts.

    The same thing with escort rates happened in the Tampa market, which according to my buddy in Orlando, has significantly higher prices than Orlando.

    There is a no shortage of pussy in the PNW. However there is a shortage of men that have enough backbone to say no, and walk away from greedy pussy. I choose not to be part of the problem.

    It's unfortunate that the men of the Pacific Northwest do not realize they are the ones holding the money, and the power they have as the paying customers.

  12. #2943

    We have to Orgnize!

    Quote Originally Posted by WarpFactor69  [View Original Post]
    I can't find it right now, but in the Washington section someone posted a screenshot of a letter that an escort sent to another one, asking if she would agree to raise her prices to a certain amount.

    The prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high compared to other metropolitan areas, because of the tight knit community that talks to each other, encouraging them to agree to higher prices. I understand there is also suppression of bad reviews, and removal of notices posted by men against bad escorts.

    The same thing with escort rates happened in the Tampa market, which according to my buddy in Orlando, has significantly higher prices than Orlando.

    There is a no shortage of pussy in the PNW. However there is a shortage of men that have enough backbone to say no, and walk away from greedy pussy. I choose not to be part of the problem.

    It's unfortunate that the men of the Pacific Northwest do not realize they are the ones holding the money, and the power they have as the paying customers.
    I have boycotted TNA and not just because of the outrageous prices, but for the accompanying piss poor service. I don't believe things are slow, because seriously, even getting a gal to answer back is an exercise in frustration. As many have stated, prices are cheaper in more expensive markets. I will throw out Vancouver BC as an example. One of the most expensive places to live in North America yet bargain prices with Rockstar service. I admit that I was initially supportive of the gals charging more since the price of everything eventually goes up, but again, as stated, I'm not seeing these price increases elsewhere. And again, and I cannot stress this strongly enough, service has gone to fucking hell. Now is the time of year to make a statement as everyone needs extra cash for Christmas presents and what not. I am personally holding off until after the first of the year and I encourage others to do so also. It's the only way we can get a handle on this thing. Who's with me?

  13. #2942
    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyShafToe  [View Original Post]
    The thing is, there are rumors that the providers are colluding to raise prices. Organizing fake reviews / reviewers. Possibly fucking with providers that don't go along by using the fake accounts to schedule fake appointments.

    Many strippers and escorts are complaining that business is super slow. So, do you think they will hold in to tge higher prices until their business dues and they just quit?

    I also think that there is an expectation for people to negotiate these days. Which sucks. I hate that, but it seems like it's a necessity now.
    I can't find it right now, but in the Washington section someone posted a screenshot of a letter that an escort sent to another one, asking if she would agree to raise her prices to a certain amount.

    The prices in the Pacific Northwest are artificially high compared to other metropolitan areas, because of the tight knit community that talks to each other, encouraging them to agree to higher prices. I understand there is also suppression of bad reviews, and removal of notices posted by men against bad escorts.

    The same thing with escort rates happened in the Tampa market, which according to my buddy in Orlando, has significantly higher prices than Orlando.

    There is a no shortage of pussy in the PNW. However there is a shortage of men that have enough backbone to say no, and walk away from greedy pussy. I choose not to be part of the problem.

    It's unfortunate that the men of the Pacific Northwest do not realize they are the ones holding the money, and the power they have as the paying customers.

  14. #2941

  15. #2940
    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyShafToe  [View Original Post]
    The thing is, there are rumors that the providers are colluding to raise prices. Organizing fake reviews / reviewers. Possibly fucking with providers that don't go along by using the fake accounts to schedule fake appointments.

    Many strippers and escorts are complaining that business is super slow. So, do you think they will hold in to tge higher prices until their business dues and they just quit?

    I also think that there is an expectation for people to negotiate these days. Which sucks. I hate that, but it seems like it's a necessity now.
    Collusion only works because there are enough people paying the prices asked. I'm not sure about the negotiating, but outwardly, most providers don't support it.

    As for the European prices being low, keep in mind that most of the working ladies are not locals. They are mostly from Eastern Europe or other LCOL areas in Europe. A prime factor that Portland has high prices because we have so few foreign competition (I've stated this before multiple times). Bay area is considered higher COL than PDX, yet their prices are lower in general.

    So yea, kinda sucks to live here.

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