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11-05-22 12:19 #3428Senior Member

Posts: 363The very next sentence pointed out that we hit independence due to the fracking boom, which Trump had nothing to do with.
Originally Posted by MyDarkSide
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This is why I urged you to read a book. You need to work on that attention span.
Donald Trump wants you to learn how to read.
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11-05-22 10:50 #3427Senior Member

Posts: 32Info
Oil is a commodity. It is traded and it is less expensive to import to many refineries rather then transport over land. Just because oil was imported, it does not discount the fact the US would be energy independent. Oil companies are willing to produce it as long as they know it is profitable venture. Currently, there is no incentive to produce.
Originally Posted by OnTime877
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At one time, I worked for BP. I suggest everyone stop posting articles. I assume everyone here knows the media never gets the full story or the correct story.
Petroleum products are expensive because the US Government has decided to put oil companies out of business and to implement terrible foreign policy.
Political discussions rarely do anything except get people pissed. I tried to keep my post with limited political statement, but it's difficult without disclosing the issue.
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11-05-22 09:55 #3426Senior Member

Posts: 616My last two cents about this COVID deal
Never believed in masks being a solution or pretty much almost anything else. Here is an interesting article from a very left leaning magazine:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...veness/671879/
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11-04-22 17:11 #3425Senior Member

Posts: 129Yep
It's very refreshing reading an intelligent post for a change. Thanks. The Carlsons and Hannitys of the world have built their mansions spinning half-truths to the gullible. And half-truths of course ultimately mislead and are lies all by their lonesome.
Originally Posted by PervNerd48
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11-04-22 15:34 #3424Senior Member

Posts: 522LOL let me summarize the article in one sentence: "It is true that we achieved both of those energy independence milestones under President Trump. " The remainder is just blah. Blah. Blah.
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11-04-22 03:04 #3423Senior Member

Posts: 363This post is delusional.
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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I'll just point out the first quote you made, because it's not my fault your teachers failed to educate you.
"We were energy independent. ".
How do you define this? Because this answer is both true and false. As this columnist said.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier...h=646f9e01657e
" I am often asked if the USA Is energy independent, or whether we have ever been energy independent. A claim I frequently encounter is that President Trump made us energy independent, and we lost that under President Biden. ".
Before addressing such a claim, you must ensure that everyone is speaking the same language. When someone makes that claim to me, I ask them to define energy independence.
If energy independence means we don't import oil, then that hasn't been true since the 1940's. If it means we export more energy than we import, then we became energy independent in 2019 (following a decade of soaring oil and gas production), but we remain energy independent today.
Others may define energy independence as producing more than we consume. In that case, we reached that milestone in 2020. It was primarily a result of a sharp drop in consumption because of the Covid-19 pandemic, accompanied by a smaller drop in energy production that year. But, that milestone remained intact in 2021. ".
Go turn off Fox News and read a book. Seriously. As the great Dan Quayle once said, "What a waste it is to lose one's mind, or not to have one at all. ".
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11-04-22 00:13 #3422Senior Member

Posts: 129Well
Unity is a pipe dream. I mean when you have morons believing in Chinese paper conspiracies, lasers directed a voting machine conspiracies, and even after their partisan vote count in AZ turned up nothing, and all the kooky hogwash that Alex Jones comes up with to sell $80 bottles of fish oil, and its Coast to Coast AM gone mainstream. That's what we have today. Have you ever tried to talk someone out of their belief in alien abuctions or Big Foot?? You'd have better luck trying to flip a Moron or Jehovah Witness knocking on your door.
Originally Posted by PervNerd48
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And the balance of power is tilted in their favor, while backwoods states with a few people like Idaho get two senators the same as California, which pays in many more times the dollars in the federal treasury. Not to mention all the gerrymandering of voting districts and voter suppression efforts, even while Rump and Rudy's "voter fraud" cases were laughed out of 60 courts across the land. So forget unity. What to remember is to do exactly what we did in 2022, get out the vote. And though historically we are certain to have some midterm set backs, as is almost always the case with the party in power, 2024 is when it counts the most.
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11-03-22 22:34 #3421Senior Member

Posts: 129?
Our energy production levels naturally dropped substantially during the pandemic (under Trump) and have been increasing since.
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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https://www.macrotrends.net/2562/us-...storical-chart
Even still, the US, though the largest single oil producer by country, still represents only 17% of the world's oil production, thus we are a small piece of the pie. If you want to whine you can start with OPEC, but the current inflation is the product of worldwide increased demand and supply chain issues in the aftermath of a once in 100 year pandemic.
Lolol Inflation is a worldwide phenomenon, and it's worse in some Euro countries. It has very little to do with anything specific to the US. It was inevitable regardless of who became the US president, plus what is the Republican plan for solving it? We've heard virtually nothing.
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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And where did you get the idea that Putin was "behaving himself?" The worst cyber attacks on US govt infratstructure were committed during the Trump administration, while Trump said "I know Vlad, he said he didn't do it and I believe him. " The BJs from Trump continued with him jockeying to pull us out of NATO, sowing divisions with the same, grifting in Ukraine withholding taxpayer funds committed to Ukraine in order to coerce them into trying to dig up dirt on his election rival, and the list goes on. Why would Putin distract from all those gifts and deep throat action by invading the Ukraine? But it's long been part of Vlad's plan within the goal of rebuilding empire, as he clearly told us in his speech prior to the invasion. That is the same invasion Trump called "genius" even though Russia got their clocks cleaned and withdrew from Kyiv.
So at the end of the day, you are yet another that needs to stop letting Tucker Carlson and right wingnut bloggers do your thinking for you, do some valid research and think for yourself. If that's possible, though if you are anything like the low IQ stooges that stormed the capital, it's likely a lost cause. We will just have to do our best to contain you and lock you up if you break the law.
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11-03-22 22:09 #3420Senior Member

Posts: 129Rofl
What difference does it make? He said "injection" and "disinfectant," what difference does it make if it's bleach, amonnia, or Scrubbing Bubbles? The big question is, when are you going to take your head out from between Cheetolini's butt checks and start thinking for yourself? That or do as I suggested, drink some Clorox and get back to us as to how it went. Or if you like, make it amonnia or Scrubbing Bubble. Still waitin. Man up. :-) ;-)
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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11-03-22 20:23 #3419Senior Member

Posts: 878Wow
You definitely are delusional. We were energy independent and in control. We were exporting energized and we could have controlled the situation and helped our allies in Europe.
Originally Posted by PervNerd48
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All the government spending fueled the inflation ask any reputable economist and look at history and you will understand. Putin was behaving himself till he got his chance again with a weak President. He took Crimea during Obama / Biden admin and then he's trying to take Ukraine with Biden as president.
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11-03-22 19:13 #3418Senior Member

Posts: 363I'm too tired to get into a discussion on how Trump's empowering of Putin, including not taking the Ukraine situation seriously, led to the jump in gas prices that sparked the worst run of inflation ever. But between that, and the stupid lack of unifying politics is killing America.
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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11-03-22 14:21 #3417Senior Member

Posts: 522Facts don't matter. Current administration -- you recall the party with a plan and science? Is nearing 3 x the Covid deaths as under Trump. Media is silent.
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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11-03-22 13:51 #3416Senior Member

Posts: 878So it's you.
That I have to blame because I don't have as much play money for this hobby. You voted for Biden. LOL.
Originally Posted by PervNerd48
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11-03-22 12:26 #3415Senior Member

Posts: 363I'm a Trump hater and voter for Biden, and even I'll state that Trump never said anything about bleach.
Originally Posted by MadMax67
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The reason that people think Trump said bleach is because:
1. He had that inane idea about using disinfectants somehow.
2. People actually did try drinking bleach to cure themselves of coronavirus.
http://www.insider.com/texans-drink-...s-2020-8%3Famp
Bottom line: whether you voted for Biden or Trump, don't drink bleach.
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11-03-22 05:11 #3414Senior Member

Posts: 878Your right
The guy is a total moron. Trump never said bleach. Also he thinks chemo therapy is radiation which it is not. Radiation therapy is used in conjunction with chemotherapy. My point t was that most drugs are poison and can be lethal if not used.
Originally Posted by MyDarkSide
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In a proper done. Funny how I have gotten bleach and other disinfectant cleaner in my system through the skin and cuts and I'm still alive.
He never said bleach. Watch the video.










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