"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Johnson]

I am NOT exaggerating any of this. She then ran out of gas, I guess, & then texted me that "we can do this forever *****" & "no one wastes my fucking time. " I blocked that # too & then found a voicemail she left from the "no caller I'd" # telling me that she wanted me to die & that I had "just met a demon. " I swear I'm not making any of this up.

Do I think she's REALLY going to do something? No. Is this just some young, mentally disturbed girl venting at me with empty threats? Sure, realistically that's what I think it is. But I sure am glad she didn't have my real name & that I'd never been in private with her if she's like that. On the other hand, if she'd shown up for lunch, I think I'd probably pick up on these little quirks. My job requires me to read people & their body language well, so I have some insight into that. So yeah, I'm starting to rethink my idea about "no meet & greets, let's just get to the action. ".

Of course I believe every word. Anyone who has dealt with women long enough, know that a significant percentage of them are batshit crazy. I've run into quite a few like this, and most of us likely have.

And yes, good point about the advantage of the meet and greets, and I had that same thought. With the bad one I had a few weeks ago (Lys), I could have sensed her cuntiness beforehand and saved myself a bad experience and -$300. And if it's a nice pretty girl, then can be kind of enjoyable to share a meal with them. Well I should probably do this a bit more, but not sure if I will actually make that move or not.

[GoneForGood97]

Case in point: I met a girl on SA recently named "Ria" something, she's a petite brunette & smoking hot. Everything went great for a week, she was very flirty & sexual & friendly via text. She wanted a meet & greet lunch today, which was fine.

I bet this is "BabyRia". She's been reviewed on the board. I posted her profile back in Sept asking if anyone had seen, and got warned off by a stand up guy here over DM. I think she's been reviewed in this thread as well and they mentioned she's pretty clearly bi-polar. I already had my annual dose of crazy earlier in the year, so glad I passed on this one, especially since she's got GPS to go along with the BPD / bipolar.

[Wleakr]

I was always someone who preferred just getting right to good stuff with the girls I meet off of SA, although if the girl was hot enough & really wanted a meet & greet, I'd meet them for lunch--but not my first choice if I could avoid it.

I'm now starting to rethink that strategy because a lot of these girls are crazy & there's a small percentage that are potentially dangerous crazy.

This is a wild story and a messed up one but I enjoyed reading it!

Juat can't see how a chick can put out these outlandish numbers BEFORE actually giving anything at all (beyond their precious time, of course).

I figure a chick that really knows her worth, would lure you in with a reasonable rate, then once they snare you into their p*ssy trap and sex skills can THEN coerce you for more to keep you on the hook.

[Bbinsider]

I don't recall a Kennesaw Jessica (only been doing SB and SA a year now) but. What in the actual fuck is that profile? The sense of entitlement is breathtakingly cunty.

She passed away a few weeks ago. Stunning girl, very sad.

[DocHolliday35]

I just met Missy at the hotel, but sometimes I think I should meet more of them for lunch first, just to look for any red flags. Although that could work against me too, if they think twice and then don't think I'm fuckable.
But if I have $250 in my hand, I'm almost always going to get over, there. I've only met maybe two of them for a meal, before hotel fun, and it did go just fine.

I would not want to put off the action for a different day though, because so many of these girls drift away, and then it's even more frustrating. I banged 3 sb's in the past week, but there are a couple that got away that I wanted really badly. In most cases, some other guy takes their interest away from me, or who knows. But these last three were excellent and it really is amazing we can have this kind of fun for two or three Franklins.

Yeah because I'll scoop them up if you don't.

You can always meet at the hotel bar for a drink. If things go well book a room and go up. If there are red flags it's easy to leave. I have left several that simply did not look like their pictures or gave off escort vibes. I also Uber to the first meet so they don't see your car.

[TylerDurden07]

I just met Missy at the hotel, but sometimes I think I should meet more of them for lunch first, just to look for any red flags. Although that could work against me too, if they think twice and then don't think I'm fuckable.
But if I have $250 in my hand, I'm almost always going to get over, there. I've only met maybe two of them for a meal, before hotel fun, and it did go just fine.

I would not want to put off the action for a different day though, because so many of these girls drift away, and then it's even more frustrating. I banged 3 sb's in the past week, but there are a couple that got away that I wanted really badly. In most cases, some other guy takes their interest away from me, or who knows. But these last three were excellent and it really is amazing we can have this kind of fun for two or three Franklins.

I was always someone who preferred just getting right to good stuff with the girls I meet off of SA, although if the girl was hot enough & really wanted a meet & greet, I'd meet them for lunch--but not my first choice if I could avoid it.

I'm now starting to rethink that strategy because a lot of these girls are crazy & there's a small percentage that are potentially dangerous crazy. If you just go right to meeting in private, you may not sense that until you find yourself in a pickle. Case in point: I met a girl on SA recently named "Ria" something, she's a petite brunette & smoking hot. Everything went great for a week, she was very flirty & sexual & friendly via text. She wanted a meet & greet lunch today, which was fine. Again, if they're hot enough, I'll do it. Well, last night she started going ape shit about her ppm. She told me she wants no less than $3 k / month &, further, $10 k / month to "be exclusive", & $20 k / month if I "wanted to marry" her. Uhhhh, yeah. I tried to politely tell her we're not on the same page & I'll just move on. She called me & her mood turned nasty & she started into a lecture / rant about "what a real daddy does" & "value" (something like the "I know my worth" nonsense), blah blah. I hung up on her & blocked her on the site, which is why I don't have a link to share with you. I'm in my early 50's, have been in this hobby for 20 years, & am not going to be lectured to by a college-age girl. I thought that'd be the end of it. Boy, was I wrong. I blocked her phone # from my phone so then this nutjob calls me almost 40 times from a "no caller I'd" number. I put my phone on silent & didn't answer. I am NOT exaggerating any of this. She then ran out of gas, I guess, & then texted me that "we can do this forever *****" & "no one wastes my fucking time. " I blocked that # too & then found a voicemail she left from the "no caller I'd" # telling me that she wanted me to die & that I had "just met a demon. " I swear I'm not making any of this up.

Do I think she's REALLY going to do something? No. Is this just some young, mentally disturbed girl venting at me with empty threats? Sure, realistically that's what I think it is. But I sure am glad she didn't have my real name & that I'd never been in private with her if she's like that. On the other hand, if she'd shown up for lunch, I think I'd probably pick up on these little quirks. My job requires me to read people & their body language well, so I have some insight into that. So yeah, I'm starting to rethink my idea about "no meet & greets, let's just get to the action. ".

P.S. --I haven't seen anything like what I've gotten from this girl before in my hobby experiences, & I understand maybe I've just been lucky over the years. Sure, I've had girls chirp at me about "wasting their time" if I don't agree to an excessive & unreasonable ppm, but never had anyone actually threaten my safety. Oh well.

[Apollo007]

Thank you all for your inputs and advice to my previous post. It's been a while I wasn't here in this thread.

I'm thinking on hitting up this one. It could be my first and only once sugaring attempt. Ever since I've seen Apollo007's post, I've been checking this one out. How long did it take for her to open up for PPM discussion?

I wouldn't waste 400 on any SB that won't give head.

I thought about negotiating, but I was kind of turned off by her attitude. I think I could have gotten her down to 300 but, damn, I need head! LOL.

[Peter Johnson]

I met up with her for lunch one day as a meet and greet. She was super friendly, good conversation. But the connection kind of fizzled from there. If you're interested, get her attention, skip the M&G, and get down to business. Most of these women are getting so many messages that they need a green light quickly.

I just met Missy at the hotel, but sometimes I think I should meet more of them for lunch first, just to look for any red flags. Although that could work against me too, if they think twice and then don't think I'm fuckable.
But if I have $250 in my hand, I'm almost always going to get over, there. I've only met maybe two of them for a meal, before hotel fun, and it did go just fine.

I would not want to put off the action for a different day though, because so many of these girls drift away, and then it's even more frustrating. I banged 3 sb's in the past week, but there are a couple that got away that I wanted really badly. In most cases, some other guy takes their interest away from me, or who knows. But these last three were excellent and it really is amazing we can have this kind of fun for two or three Franklins.

[SeekingHead]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-068c153d3b94

This one appparently suffers from GPS. I asked her what kind of PPM she usually goes with and said that I start with 250, and more if the girl is into taking pics. She replied: "Sorry, that's quite low and isn't going to work for me", then ghosted me.

Of course we know that 250 is not especially low for the Atlanta market, and especially not for a 6.5 who is 30+.

But she proudly proclaims her Emory degree , so perhaps she thinks that makes her more valuable. Nope, of course that's not how men think, in looking for a sb. I am just as attracted to a hot Waffle House waitress, as I am a Phd from Harvard. And probably moreso, because less like to be a stuck up and entitled. Sure someone intelligent is sometimes more interesting to hang out with, but not that always or that much. Women are the ones who care about where the guy works and his education level. We don't care.

Anyway, bottom line is that she and I were just not on the same page there, which is no big deal. But she was clueless with saying 250 is "quite low", especially without referencing market data, or even what she usually receives. And for her to shut the conversation down at that point, you know she only accepts $500+, if not much more.

She's looking for a guy who will keep her in her lifestyle of volunteering, working with refugee children, & make her monthly mortgage payment. This requires a lot of investment in her probably $500 plus. Her issues are she is on the wrong side of 30 & like you said a 6. 5 which I think you are being generous about. While it's nice to have a good intelligent conversation over a glass of bourbon before I take them to the bedroom & fuck their brains out, it's not something that would move a 6. 5 women looks wise past a solid 8 waffle house waitress who dropped out of high school. Almost all of us on this site prefer a woman in the Gunny's famous words "who can suck a golf ball thru a garden hose" over a degree any day of the week.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...7-068c153d3b94

This one appparently suffers from GPS. I asked her what kind of PPM she usually goes with and said that I start with 250, and more if the girl is into taking pics. She replied: "Sorry, that's quite low and isn't going to work for me", then ghosted me.

Of course we know that 250 is not especially low for the Atlanta market, and especially not for a 6.5 who is 30+.

But she proudly proclaims her Emory degree , so perhaps she thinks that makes her more valuable. Nope, of course that's not how men think, in looking for a sb. I am just as attracted to a hot Waffle House waitress, as I am a Phd from Harvard. And probably moreso, because less like to be a stuck up and entitled. Sure someone intelligent is sometimes more interesting to hang out with, but not that always or that much. Women are the ones who care about where the guy works and his education level. We don't care.

Anyway, bottom line is that she and I were just not on the same page there, which is no big deal. But she was clueless with saying 250 is "quite low", especially without referencing market data, or even what she usually receives. And for her to shut the conversation down at that point, you know she only accepts $500+, if not much more.

[SgtHappyEnding]

In finally connected with her too, and had about the same experience, and same ppm. She insisted on condoms from the start, although get her worked up and turned on, and you may be able to get in there bare. But she's very outgoing and easy to talk to. Friendly and fun, and she is accommodating with BBBJTCWS. I rarely repeat with any of these sb's... because the power of new pussy is so strong..... but I would see her again on the right day, for sure.

I met up with her for lunch one day as a meet and greet. She was super friendly, good conversation. But the connection kind of fizzled from there. If you're interested, get her attention, skip the M&G, and get down to business. Most of these women are getting so many messages that they need a green light quickly.

[Member #6517]

Thank you all for your inputs and advice to my previous post. It's been a while I wasn't here in this thread.

One of you mongers must have face f at #k her hard. She wants 400 with no head. She said she had a bad experience with and old SD. Everything was a go till she threw out the 400. I replied I usually do 200 with head, and golly, never heard back from her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-3e7a50d98039

I'm thinking on hitting up this one. It could be my first and only once sugaring attempt. Ever since I've seen Apollo007's post, I've been checking this one out. How long did it take for her to open up for PPM discussion?

[Peter Johnson]

Is she the same woman that had a sister Lacey and did gangbang parties with King?

SD.

I think I know who you are talking about, and that's a different one, who lives in Marietta. I saw her a couple of times in 2018, but I think she is still around. She was a provider / escort, not a SB, but really sweet and a lot of fun.

[DudeNextDoor]

Sorry for spamming the board lately but I've got some time off and want to take advantage of it by lining up a handful of hotties.

Here's one I have a meet and greet set up with tomorrow. She just sprung on me that she wants 400 ppm. Of course I'll try to talk her down but when I said I don't pay for a m&g unless we're doing it somewhere more private she just said "let's talk in person. " Anyone have any experience here?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-53a2426b3bd5

[DudeNextDoor]

I'll let the board know what I find out.

StayActive (posted about them (post #10665) Seems like they are charging for m&g and then ghosting according to his post.