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  1. #22711
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyGuy2  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by Ashley spa in Fairfax.

    Met cute very small young looking gal, Stephanie.

    She was warm and friendly and got the job done nicely. I did not ask for too much as she was cute as a button and turned me on. I was in a little rush so I said upfront 45 minutes. Soon I extended for the hour. Just lots of fun with sweet young petite gal. Really enjoyed. Not sure what the extended menu was, if any, but I did not care. Just enjoyed my time with her. Looks to be in 20's but since small and cute could be in 30's. Who cares after seeing so many old hags in AMPs. Refreshing.

    Always be nice to the gals and they will be nice to you!

    HG.
    She's nice and gets the job done, but certainly not that age. I made a lengthy trip out in hopes on really seeing that age and unfortunately, the age is probably upper 40's if I had to guess. She's petite, eraser nips, but her stomach certainly has some baby damage and her ass is asian momma flat. For those reading, save yourself the trip and skip it.

  2. #22710

    Not far from the truth but

    Quote Originally Posted by FourNick8  [View Original Post]
    Time to clear up this disinformation BS.

    Anyone who has followed this board for over 5 years knows that NOVA stands for "standard Northern Virginia finish" which means services were restricted to only a HJ.

    Four years ago a provider HJ in Virginia was completely legal until the democratic controlled state legislature and Gov passed legislation that made any sexual area touching where money was exchanged a felony. Most AMP's (especially KAMPS) had followed the HJ only policy to stay above the law. If more was expected then most mongers went to Maryland where BJ and FS were common.

    The economic affects of COVID have opened up move Virginia providers to BJ and FS but if you read back in the Thread 5 of 10 years ago most services provided with "standard NOVA."
    NOVA means "No Oral or Vaginal or Anal play" so Silk34s definition is quite accurate. The reason it isnt popular among other boards is of course open to debate but I still think VA AMP scene is among the weakest in the country. Its gotten better since COVID but it used to be rather tame. We had quantity but not quality. HJ was pretty much the norm and anything extra was rare or YMMV. But when I was a newbie I also fell into the misconception that NoVA was always just North Va and that standard NoVa meant just a HJ which again is synonymous with the truth. Many mongers used the term because here in NOVA before the pandemic it was usually just a HJ and not much more. That was the inside joke, NOVA was no oral or vaginal but also the abbreviation for north VA and it was almost too fitting a coincidence. Occasionally the provider would take off their top and let you nurse or (again, pre pandemic) you could do some light kissing or DFK (deep French kissing) which many mongers would abbreviate as a NOVA+ (Myself included). Providers in VA would rarely let you do more ie BJ / FS you would never get their pants off or get oral except maybe some light kisses on the tip or maybe a simulated BJ which again puts you in the NOVA+ Territory. If you ever wanted more services ie FS then you would have to cross the River into Maryland, PG county area AMPs for those services rendered.

    Virginia providing more than a HJ was rare and reserved. So that's the origin of the term.

    Then the pandemic happened and providers were hit hard and in an effort to recoup the menu seemed to open up here. So nowadays more can be found than just the standard.

    But standard NOVA is more or less a happy ending with some OTC roaming.

    Hope that clears things up a bit.

  3. #22709

    Disinformation

    Quote Originally Posted by Silk3434  [View Original Post]
    NOVA = No Vagina or No Vagina / Ass I've heard it both ways. Basically it means you get a HJ and don't get to play with anything, maybe some OTC (over the clothes) action. A NOVA+ finish might have some titties popped out or maybe pants lowered to grab some butt, but again refer back to the beginning.

    I find that now adays, providers who clean / disinfect your hands before the flip (either at the start or when you get the hot towel) are down for some finger fun. At least they know you are sticking something clean inside. This wasn't the biggest thing before COVID, but certainly is a tell tale sign of something to come.
    Time to clear up this disinformation BS.

    Anyone who has followed this board for over 5 years knows that NOVA stands for "standard Northern Virginia finish" which means services were restricted to only a HJ.

    Four years ago a provider HJ in Virginia was completely legal until the democratic controlled state legislature and Gov passed legislation that made any sexual area touching where money was exchanged a felony. Most AMP's (especially KAMPS) had followed the HJ only policy to stay above the law. If more was expected then most mongers went to Maryland where BJ and FS were common.

    The economic affects of COVID have opened up move Virginia providers to BJ and FS but if you read back in the Thread 5 of 10 years ago most services provided with "standard NOVA."

  4. #22708

    Was confused too

    Quote Originally Posted by Bentaki  [View Original Post]
    It's interesting that this phrase 'NOVA finish' only exists on the Northern VA forum. I haven't seen any monger on any forum here, nor on any other review site anywhere else ever use this acronym.
    I agree, and that is why I asked in an earlier post. (Thank you to those who reposted for clarifying its meaning.).

    I assumed it was an expression used in this area to imply simple HE by HJ without seeing or touching her body. Glad I asked.

  5. #22707
    Quote Originally Posted by Silk3434  [View Original Post]
    NOVA = No Vagina or No Vagina / Ass I've heard it both ways. Basically it means you get a HJ and don't get to play with anything, maybe some OTC (over the clothes) action. A NOVA+ finish might have some titties popped out or maybe pants lowered ...
    It's interesting that this phrase 'NOVA finish' only exists on the Northern VA forum. I haven't seen any monger on any forum here, nor on any other review site anywhere else ever use this acronym.

  6. #22706

    Giving a massage

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark125  [View Original Post]
    So has anybody every experienced giving a massage to a provider at an AMP? I've had many experiences in many other ways but I'm thinking this would be another fun one to check off. Let me know if you've done it or have any location recommendations. I may start at my usual places and make the request as well.
    My experience is that most providers love getting a massage. Just ask after a while or ask them to lie down. 20% won't but most will and appreciate it. They are the ones that really need a massage.

    To me, playing with a strange body is nice and fun. I am sort of careful how fast it does not progress as some get uncomfortable when they are not the control person. Just have to read the body language (pun intended). Makes the experience a mutually happy time and then they like to please you more. So I have been told.

    Always be nice to the ladies and tip well.

    Gets you back for more maybe?

    HG.

  7. #22705

    Classic Nails

    Quote Originally Posted by FourNick8  [View Original Post]
    Hannah at Classic Nails is another one with a good 2 handed HJ. She is a tall pretty 50 yo Vietnamese who has a following for manicures and pedicures. Strictly HJ with no UTC roaming.
    YMMV. Mine did.

    Called for an appointment.

    Showed up a few minutes early.

    There were two nails customers being worked on by a man.

    Tina took me back for the massage.

    The massage was just oil and light rubbing. About 3/10. Not worth the time.

    Asked about Happiness service and was told " I never do that". I told her I would not want her to do something she did not want to. She said than you.

    On the way out I saw a woman I assume was Hanna. Big smiles all around.

  8. #22704

    Thought there was an acronym guide?

    Quote Originally Posted by RickNva  [View Original Post]
    I have seen the expression "NOVA finish," and can pretty much assume what it means. But "assuming" can sometimes cause problems. So for us newbies, can others clarify what "nova" means or includes?
    NOVA = No Vagina or No Vagina / Ass I've heard it both ways. Basically it means you get a HJ and don't get to play with anything, maybe some OTC (over the clothes) action. A NOVA+ finish might have some titties popped out or maybe pants lowered to grab some butt, but again refer back to the beginning.

    I find that now adays, providers who clean / disinfect your hands before the flip (either at the start or when you get the hot towel) are down for some finger fun. At least they know you are sticking something clean inside. This wasn't the biggest thing before COVID, but certainly is a tell tale sign of something to come.

  9. #22703

    50/50 you will end up with something better than you expected

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark125  [View Original Post]
    So has anybody every experienced giving a massage to a provider at an AMP? I've had many experiences in many other ways but I'm thinking this would be another fun one to check off. Let me know if you've done it or have any location recommendations. I may start at my usual places and make the request as well.
    Be it CFS, BBFS, BBBJ, something. If you can excite the lady she will open like a flower. But its totally YMMV and how well you give it.

  10. #22702

    Clarification

    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSmitham  [View Original Post]
    Does she offer NoVA finish?
    I have seen the expression "NOVA finish," and can pretty much assume what it means. But "assuming" can sometimes cause problems. So for us newbies, can others clarify what "nova" means or includes?

  11. #22701

    Giving not receiving

    So has anybody every experienced giving a massage to a provider at an AMP? I've had many experiences in many other ways but I'm thinking this would be another fun one to check off. Let me know if you've done it or have any location recommendations. I may start at my usual places and make the request as well.

  12. #22700

    Once again

    Quote Originally Posted by SuzhiLang  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info Bro. BTW, can we call you nail salon expert / explorer going forward? LOL.
    Be cautious about positing reviews of nail salons. They are in general, legitimate businesses that try to keep a low profile. Few, if any, ever post about offering massage services and while Nick has blessed all with the fruits of his experiences, i merely ask we take into consideration that these ladies do offer legit services such as pedicures and that we as gentlemen should honor the unwritten rules of non parlor etiquette. As with the last time these reviews came to light on the board. Mongers inundated the place( IE classic nail) like a swarm of horny plague mites determined to ravage the thinly veiled walls and consume everything within and they were forced to stop giving massages. Try to be respectful and discreet because all it takes is one mishap to fuck up the fun for the rest of us.

    Rule 1: do not call them incessantly and bother the owner about a massage. Rather go in person. Maybe get your disgusting toenails clipped and while in the ambience of a pedicure gently tease the idea of a massage if they arent too busy.

    Rule 2: if they are busy, find a better time to go. If you see tons of ladies getting their nails done. Probably isnt a good time to get a massage because all we need is one of these righteous Karens to get suspicious and send word to uncle Leo. Then the next post of this nature wont be in the massage section it will be an article link on the news and media reports.

    Rule 3: the creed of the PilotAviator. Treat the ladies nice. Dont demand, the best youll get at a nail salon is a standard NOVA. Dont push for more youve already hit the jackpot.


    Lets be gentlemen and mutually support our shared fun and the business while keeping both intact.

  13. #22699

    Fairfax

    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoomer  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone visited this one?

    https://northern-virginia.skipthegam...x/467204288498

    They advertise a range of damage and offer groupon!

    Looks like a good spot.

    Quality?

    Services?

    Rules.

    Damage.

    Recommendations.

    Names?
    I live within walking distance so I decided to check it out this evening. There is no number on the door (it is on the first floor) but there is a small business card that says "Paradise Spa". I opened the door and there was an Asian lady probably mid 40's, maybe 5'8, 200 lbs with a chubby face sitting behind a table facing the main door. I asked if they accepted credit cards and she said not yet and smiled. I noticed there was a small dark hallway with 2 or 3 private rooms but I did not see anyone else. The place is open until 10 pm and they have Christmas lights bordering the windows.

    The chubby lady had a pleasant attitude but I do not think I would want to pay her to perform on me.

    I plan to visit next week for a session during one of my walks.

  14. #22698
    Quote Originally Posted by FourNick8  [View Original Post]
    Hannah at Classic Nails is another one with a good 2 handed HJ. She is a tall pretty 50 yo Vietnamese who has a following for manicures and pedicures. Strictly HJ with no UTC roaming.
    Thanks for the info Bro. BTW, can we call you nail salon expert / explorer going forward? LOL.

  15. #22697

    Make sure you go to the right place

    Quote Originally Posted by OldBoomer  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone visited this one?

    https://northern-virginia.skipthegam...x/467204288498

    They advertise a range of damage and offer groupon!

    Looks like a good spot.

    Quality?

    Services?

    Rules.

    Damage.

    Recommendations.

    Names?
    Until recently my area travels would take me to a brewery in a plaza across the street from this townhouse office complex. Would see one of the neon "Open" lights on, so investigated. In Suite 7x C is Lucky Therapeutic Massage. Its extensive online presence -- web site, groupon, google and yelp reviews, etc. --screams "totally legitimate. " But the ad you posted is for Suite 7x A, and has different phone numbers. Sounds like I might need to get back out to that brewery.

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