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10-30-22 21:30 #18185Senior Member

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Yeah I saw her and she was boring not into it at all not exactly dead fish but almost there would definitely avoid.
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10-30-22 19:06 #18184Regular Member

Posts: 15Asian agency ads
Have you noticed that there are lots of Asian agency ads on stg? Has anyone had a good experience with them? I texted with one today that quoted low prices.
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10-30-22 16:09 #18183Senior Member

Posts: 3748Ashley
She has indeed gone silent periodically in the past, for years back, actually. Way before the dramatic change in her appearance.
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10-30-22 15:21 #18182Senior Member

Posts: 39There's a tiny bottle of nasal spray that will save a person's life when they're ODing. It's called Narcan and lots of health care centers give them away for free. I have never used drugs in my life but I was at a health fair this past summer and was handed a couple of the small containers. The person explained that it takes a single spray of the stuff in the nose and, presto, problem solved. Apparently, the reason why fentanyl is so deadly is that it essentially tells our brain to shut down our lungs. Narcan basically blocks that signal and the person starts to breath again. There's zero risk. In fact, you can use it on yourself and it will have zero effect (because there's no fentanyl in your system). I keep those little bottles in my glove compartment and honestly would not hesitate to use one on anyone if the situation arises.
Originally Posted by TakeThat
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10-30-22 12:48 #18181Senior Member

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Yes, the horrific scenario of a provider overdosing in your presence is the most compelling reason to avoid junkies. But that only applies if they're shooting up in front of you. My understanding is that overdosing from heroin / fentanyl / opiates only happens within the first 10 minutes of injection. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times a lady has injected herself in front of me. Twice it was unplanned and I was indeed wondering what I had gotten myself into. Anything could have happened. The third time it was planned and the lady assured me that she has a method. She injected a small amount to assess the strength of the dose. (Fentanyl is a lot stronger and is the cause for most overdoses because users misjudge the strength of the substance.) After waiting for a few minutes she injected the remainder. She went into about a 10 minute period of being a zombie. After that she was fine and we resumed our date.
Nevertheless, being that close to the action is not something I aspire to. But to return to the point, the risk of overdosing is only there if she injects in your presence. And that is quite rare. However, often they will hide from you and do it in the restroom -- and that carries the same risk except that now you don't know she did it (other than from her zombie behavior, nodding off etc.)
Bottom line, I will usually avoid a known addict unless I am incredibly attracted to her and / or there are reports of amazing skills and level of engagement. However, in most cases (unless you're seeing a well-known / well-reviewed lady) there are no surefire ways of knowing beforehand that a lady is an addict.
On the ethical topic -- I won't go there. Too complex to discuss here.
Finally, I would like to point out that the relationship between an addict who does it to feel better (relieve the severe body aches that result from heroin withdrawal) and someone who does it for sexual enjoyment and some financial gain isn't always so black and white. I've met plenty of addicts who also enjoy the act immensely. Prime example being Jamie / Sparrow. But she had the patience to spend a few hours with me and delay her substance gratification until I was gone. Where is she now by the way?
Because of all of the reasons discussed above (KOF, thanks for starting this important thread), I shifted my focus to "UTR" gals several years ago. There's no guarantee that UTR gals aren't addicts, but they tend not to be. Requires more effort to set up and a higher investment, but is worth it.
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10-30-22 12:08 #18180Senior Member

Posts: 3748Your point here is spot on, TakeThat:
Originally Posted by TakeThat
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"All the experienced mongers here can tell the difference when a girl likes sex and her job as a provider vs. Someone with an attitude that doesn't like her job and wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole if she wasn't an addict or being forced to it".
I will NEVER see a girl if I suspect she's being forced into it, and I seriously dought if anyone here actually would! And of course, at least some of the junkies--maybe most--have indeed fallen into that tragic trap.
But even when they are not forced to do it, if they are not into it, either for the money, or for the enjoyment of the sex itself, at least for this old dinosaur, the experience becomes a mechanical, abysmal chore, at best. And surely something not worth paying for! The ones I do see over and over again--now, down to just Ashley and Stephie here in New England--is because, at least in my experience, they actually enjoy sex, and for those two, frequently orgasm quite intensely. These are indeed the kind of women I like to fuck! The junkies rarely if ever cum, at least in my experience. The sole exxception to this in New England, in my experience, was Jamie. But as much as I enjoyed Jamie, I'm not knowingly rolling the dice with the junkies any more. And now, with the recent weight loss and weathered look, I'm really wondering now, about Ashley. I've almost always been able to get her to cum during a session. But not this last time. : (.
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10-30-22 11:48 #18179Senior Member

Posts: 3748Thanks for emphasizing that VERY important point, which I forgot to mention: "as we get older and our own natural immune system starts to wane (even without the consumption of class A drugs". This is surely something to be weighed, and considered. You young whippersnappers, all else being equal, have generally more robust immune systems than us older fossils. Because, by the time one reaches their 8th decade, even if quite healthy, one's immune system is often just not what it used to be!
Originally Posted by DarkClouds
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10-30-22 10:55 #18178Senior Member

Posts: 74Regarding Junkies
I always avoided seeing junkies for safety and ethical reasons. It's better to assume they have diseases so let's not have sex with them (I'm aware ANYONE can have diseases, not just drug users). It's really a common sense thing in my opinion.
I also avoided junkies for ethical reasons as well. I don't want to KNOWINGLY feed into someone's addiction. I rather buy sex from a provider who does it for purely financial gain and / or enjoys the sex than someone only doing it to feed a hardcore drug habit. All the experienced mongers here can tell the difference when a girl likes sex and her job as a provider vs. Someone with an attitude that doesn't like her job and wouldn't touch you with a 10 foot pole if she wasn't an addict or being forced to it.
Like others have already listed, when dealing with junkies you have to also be mindful of your own physical safety as well because there could be cops, thugs, pimps, and junkie boyfriends around. And also, what if she is overdosing during your session? Do you just up and leave or call the cops and ambulance?
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10-30-22 10:06 #18177Senior Member

Posts: 2111Junkies
KOF thanks for sharing. I did not know about the immunosupressive properties of long-term use of the drugs you mentioned. But it surely makes total sense and explains why we see the external signs that we have become so accustomed to seeing on many of the ladies in this hobby. And that should serve as a reminder that catching sexual diseases should not be our only concern when we hang out with, kiss, exchange fluids, food and drinks, and otherwise socialize with these "ladies of the night". To your point, KOF, this is especially important as we get older and our own natural immune system starts to wane (even without the consumption of class A drugs).
Originally Posted by KingOfFours
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10-30-22 09:44 #18176Senior Member

Posts: 3748My Reasons to Avoid Junkies
It is true that outcalls SOMEWHAT mitigate the danger, at least from thugs WITH badges. (Don't get me wrong, I HIGHLY respect the CONCEPT of police, their service, and the need for policing. But using OUR tax money to bust harmless hoes and their customers, by my lights, has NOTHING to do with "serving and protecting ! )
Originally Posted by DarkClouds
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But I've had some bad scenarios with outcalls as well. Cashes and dashes. And in one case, a dangerous thug (one WITHOUT a badge) was involved. ALL of those involved girls who were junkies.
So let me cut right to the chase, here, and discuss what some would probably consider the MOST important reason for not fucking junkies: Their health, and the DISTINCT possibility of contracting diseases.
Most "hobbiests" are aware of blood-borne virus transmission from injecting junkies. Viruses like HIV, and the Hepatitis viruses. I think most here, are aware of that. But junkies, and not just heroin junkies, MUCH more easily contract, and therefore, more easily spread, MANY MANY MANY kinds of diseases! This fact is not really even controversial. Its just rarely discussed in THIS community. Because, truth be told, heroin, meth, and the various forms of cocaine, ALL are immunosuppressive. If you are not familiar with this concept, here are some links you can start with:
https://www.uspharmacist.com/article...-immune-system
https://ranchcreekrecovery.com/blog/...immune-system/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...28012383641806
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12689662/
I included the last link in case anyone is interested in some of the actual physiological mechanisms of some forms of drug-induced immunosuppression.
So, there are reasons why these girls look so goddam unhealthy. Its because they ARE unhealthy, and much of their physical deterioration (I. E. , the reason why they generally look like shit after years of hard drug abuse) is due to infections. Infections which not only include STDs, although those are surely prominent in junkies! But they also include just about anything contageous--everything ranging from serious respiratory infections like the China Covid Plague and tuberculosis, to the common cold, and everything in-between! Junkies are indeed walking Petri dishes. Because all three of these classs of addictive drugs cause system-wide immunosuppression after years of abuse. Just look at some of their grossly infected skin lesions. If you want more proof beyond these links, google or duckduck are at your fingertips.
I realize that a lot of you guys think that I'll stick my dick into anything with two tits and a cunnt. Well, that was probably indeed true in my younger decades. But these days, I've become, believe it or not, really selective! Mainly, I've grown old enough, and perhaps wise enough (hopefully? ) to avoid a lot of trouble in this hobby. So I will no longer fuck junkies. At least not knowingly, and as DarkClouds pointed out, one needs to do research to have a fighting chance of being safe!
So, I now do a LOT of research before plunging in. Indeed, that is, for me, the main function of this Board. While I used to raw dog, a couple decades ago, maybe one or two hoes per week, these days its down to one or two hoes every couple of months.
So, to summarize: My three main reasons for no longer fucking junkies:
1. Thugs with badges.
2. Thugs without badges.
3. The MANY diseases they frequently acquire and transmit, in this currently hard-drug-fueled profession, and NOT JUST the STDS.
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10-30-22 09:35 #18175Senior Member

Posts: 88I call her and it rings once and goes to vm. She has my number blocked apparently. Which I find strange because last time I spoke with her she couldn't remember who I was? O well.
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10-29-22 23:09 #18174Senior Member

Posts: 74Bathroomless Ashley
I did a std testing with my doctor a month ago and I was negative on all the major stds. I figured let's keep it that way. Trust me I wanted to bareback, but at the same time, I didn't want to deal with any anxiety of thinking I have something and waiting 3 months to test again to be on the clear. Her pussy tasted clean with very little odor too. In the past, her pussy consistently had a strong female odor when she was considered 'normal' or not 'allegedly' using. So I don't know what to make of it. I guess my big brain won out in making that decision to go bare or not, LOL.
Originally Posted by KingOfFours
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I remember a while ago she said she was now on medication for this or that health issue that is now being addressed. This could also explain her weight loss. But seeing her for about a decade now she was always able gain and lose weight quickly without seemingly much effort in my opinion.
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10-29-22 19:11 #18173Senior Member

Posts: 74Bathroomless Ashley
I saw her on Monday, the 24th. She doesn't always respond to me either. Sometimes you have to catch her at the right time or if she is in the mood to respond back to texts or calls. You might contact her on Monday and not hear from her at all but if you contact again on Wednesday or Thursday, she'll respond back.
Originally Posted by BigtimeG
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10-29-22 19:03 #18172Senior Member

Posts: 74Bathroomless Ashley.
She stopped posting for several months now. The reason why? I don't know. I wouldn't say she is utr but I believe she is satisfied enough with her regulars I guess. With her personal family problems that I know of, maximizing her earning potential is probably not a priority for her at the moment. Her number is 774-633-5795.
Originally Posted by Yyzvisitor
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10-29-22 12:23 #18171Senior Member

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Your point about thugs with badges is a good one and I did not originally address it directly. I have lately been doing mostly outcalls or visits to their homes and that mitigates problems with thugs of all sorts to a great extent. The motel incall scene seems to be the most risky of all. The outcall option does increase the cost of the date but is generally well worth it after having adequately researched the lady (that's how I did it with Jamie / Sparrow, although it was at one of those dumpy motels where I had gotten friendly with the staff -- at least I didn't have to worry about unwanted company).
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