The Rat Trap

**Carlosa** · 11-04-22 16:37

Once you validated the person is the person.

Never meet in the room. Lobby pool area only.

Next arrive half hour before the date.

Make sure to look at the cars around you. Sometimes I park at a different hotel.

Then around the date time pick a car. Say you just pulled up usi g different car not yours. Then meet in lobby or pool area.

This enables you to.

1 see if this is a bust.

2 does not give the providers info on who you really are.

3 if she is nothing like the photo you can book.

4 you can see if there is muscle.

Your safety guys.

**Carlosa** · 11-04-22 16:31

Remember you pay for annonimity. Once the deed is done. The bottom line is you do not care about them, an the providers do not give a fuck about you.

There are 2 providers Avalon and Berlin now on positive escort thread, or I call the pimp promotion thread.

These are in the group that want business card face pic LinkedIn etc etc.

(For safety).

I call bullshit, if you want safety get out of that business. There is absolutely positively no reason to give out any info period.

I use to give these providers fake ids and fake LinkedIn accounts until I saw her pimp follow me to get my card plate.

Now if they say I require verification. I say fine let's meet in public first. If they say no it is all part of a scam you need to avoid.

This will become more prevalent as the economy worsens.

**DavidTnOrl** · 11-03-22 18:00

Originally Posted by Carlosa [View Original Post]

Tired of the constant scams here.

I have noticed as the economy gets worse there are more extortion scams this theatest one. He is from Costa Rica.

Sent him a text that gave me his exact location.

Read carefully. I'm Christopher Avendano a member of a Mexican m. A. f. I. a here in USA a and boss of a companion website where I have received several complaints from you, my girls have reported that you are a piece of trash you have just wasted your time, it's time to implement respect in this damn business, because of the mistake you made, you have 2 ways to solve this problem:

1- I have imposed 2. 900 and you have to pay me right away so you can delete all of your and his family's information.

2- Or involve your family in this, friends, your work everything that has to do with you. Just as simple as you refuse to pay me, my steers and I will make sure that your cursed life is ruining. I don't want to put your family in this problem, my organization has been persecuted by the FBI for years, I hope you understand that nothing frightens me I don't give a f*ck and that your only option is to pay me the damn money you pay me for good or bad..

Yep everyone is trying to get your $. Create fake accounts and use a burner cell. Some apps, FB, used to may still do, use your FB friends and your phone book to suggest new "friends". Actually complete strangers. This is a high risk hobby unless you visit your trusted long time UTR's. Be safe out there.

**Carlosa** · 11-03-22 14:04

Tired of the constant scams here.

I have noticed as the economy gets worse there are more extortion scams this theatest one. He is from Costa Rica.

Sent him a text that gave me his exact location.

Read carefully. I'm Christopher Avendano a member of a Mexican m. A. f. I. a here in USA a and boss of a companion website where I have received several complaints from you, my girls have reported that you are a piece of trash you have just wasted your time, it's time to implement respect in this damn business, because of the mistake you made, you have 2 ways to solve this problem:

1- I have imposed 2. 900 and you have to pay me right away so you can delete all of your and his family's information.

2- Or involve your family in this, friends, your work everything that has to do with you. Just as simple as you refuse to pay me, my steers and I will make sure that your cursed life is ruining. I don't want to put your family in this problem, my organization has been persecuted by the FBI for years, I hope you understand that nothing frightens me I don't give a f*ck and that your only option is to pay me the damn money you pay me for good or bad.

Sent him the text his response.

You are a piece of trash. You are talking bullcrap all the time.

Now you have only 2 option:

1. Pay me compensation of 2. 900 $.

2. You will be dead.

You have exactly a few minutes to send me the money💰128176;128176;or you will be dead and all his family as well dead. I will kill you easy you will get a bullet between your legs and between your eyes.

All I can do is laugh.

This is another reason you do not use a real number.

**Grain 56** · 11-01-22 14:12

Originally Posted by Vino7373 [View Original Post]

FAREWELL MARTY: I debated whether to post this or not. There's a whole lot of backstory to it....
...Two days later, I got lambasted by Swaggs on this great forum. She just flat out blasted me. Called me Pimp Vino, etc. This started a feud of several years on this great Forum between her and I.

Obviously, my handle is Vino. I made my handle because I sold wine for a living. It turns out that a guy called Marty worked in a liquor store, near the Suburban, where Swaggs lived...
...RIP Marty.

The last I heard was that Swaggs looked like death warmed over. The last post about her was a monger saying he saw her on the Trail. She was barefoot, spinning in circles and arguing with imaginary people. She was literally, barking at the moon.

Those were the days. LOL. Swaggs was a piece of work on the Forum. I remember her bashing you repeatedly. She is like so many others on here when someone says or does something that's outlandish. She fought harder and harder the more she knew she was wrong or had been outed. You can prove to someone the sky is blue and the grass is green, but if they thought differently and got caught saying it's the other way around on the forum, there are some that will fight to the death to hold their ground. Even when you can show them what they said through their old posts.

I have so many memories of her stories, activities and posts. You just had to experience it at the time to really appreciate the humor in it all. I haven't seen her out walking the past few months. There's no telling where in Hell she actually is, these days.

I never met Party Marty / I Pay You in person. It's too bad he's gone though.

Grain 56.

**Carlosa** · 11-01-22 13:23

Originally Posted by Bjceb [View Original Post]

Absolutely right. Also utr will increase as well. All side effects of a recession.

Stay safe and have fun!

The funniest version of GPS is in Altamonte Springs.

Mostly at 235 Wymore Rd, Altamonte Springs, FL 32714.

Sometimes at 150 Douglas Ave, Altamonte Springs, FL 32714.

8 times I have had providers give me the necessary verify photo.

All 8 times it was zoomed in, so you could not see what you were paying for.

All 8 times they were fat, I don't fuck fat chicks.

Looked at them and said your worth $200 a hour a girl I would even hit on in a bar.

Started screaming I need to pay 50 for cancelling. Laughed and walked away.

**Carlosa** · 11-01-22 13:22

Originally Posted by Bjceb [View Original Post]

Absolutely right. Also utr will increase as well. All side effects of a recession.

Stay safe and have fun!

The funniest version of GPS is in Altamonte Springs.

Mostly at 235 Wymore Rd, Altamonte Springs, FL 32714.

Sometimes at 150 Douglas Ave, Altamonte Springs, FL 32714.

8 times I have had providers give me the necessary verify photo.

All 8 times it was zoomed in, so you could not see what you were paying for.

All 8 times they were fat, I don't fuck fat chicks.

Looked at them and said your worth $200 a hour a girl I would even hit on in a bar.

Started screaming I need to pay 50 for cancelling. Laughed and walked away.

**Bjceb** · 11-01-22 11:05

Absolutely right. Also utr will increase as well. All side effects of a recession.

Stay safe and have fun!

Originally Posted by Carlosa [View Original Post]

Just like 2008 the quality of providers will increase and the quality will as well.

The gps will go away.

**Carlosa** · 11-01-22 09:34

Just like 2008 the quality of providers will increase and the quality will as well.

The gps will go away.

**Mafia64** · 10-31-22 06:35

Originally Posted by Vino7373 [View Original Post]

I debated whether to post this or not. There's a whole lot of backstory to it.

I've been on here for years. Please allow me to tell you a story.

About 15 years ago, I received a PM. This PM was from a popular provider on here, named Savannah, aka, "Swaggs. " in this PM, she offered me a free visit, because she, "respected and wanted to talk to me. " I immediately saw red flags but I responded and accepted the offer. At the time, Swaggs lived in the old Suburban, on 17-92, near the Green Parrot bar.

I was apprehensive, so I drove around the place a few times. On one of my loops, I spied a marked LEO car. The cops were talking to a brunette, through an open door. The girl had a laptop literally, in her lap, as she talked to the LEOs. I thought it was Swaggs. Aha, she was working with LEO to set me up! I bailed.

Two days later, I got lambasted by Swaggs on this great forum. She just flat out blasted me. Called me Pimp Vino, etc. This started a feud of several years on this great Forum between her and I.

Dam vino what a story I remember her she was a crazy one mafia64.

**Orlando Monger** · 10-31-22 02:23

One of the best days of the year.

**Bjceb** · 10-30-22 14:52

I had no idea the drama you had to deal with! Crazy is an understandment! I only saw her once and the visit was good but then she got in way too much drama for me and chose to never see her again. It would not surprise me if we hear about her passing. Between the medicine and crazy deamons catch with up with people.

Sorry to hear about Marty, RIP.

I took a 6 month break from posting due to my burner phone stopped working with the new digital switch. I bought a new smart one and have never figured out how to get to work with out any risk of my personal info being exposed. I take that extremely serious! I have only partaked on the AMP side as needed, more on that to come.

Glad to hear your alright and not marty!

This should be my 1000 post and I think it is about time to get back into something different then AMPs!

Originally Posted by Vino7373 [View Original Post]

I debated whether to post this or not. There's a whole lot of backstory to it.

I've been on here for years. Please allow me to tell you a story.

About 15 years ago, I received a PM. This PM was from a popular provider on here, named Savannah, aka, "Swaggs. " in this PM, she offered me a free visit, because she, "respected and wanted to talk to me. " I immediately saw red flags but I responded and accepted the offer. At the time, Swaggs lived in the old Suburban, on 17-92, near the Green Parrot bar.

I was apprehensive, so I drove around the place a few times. On one of my loops, I spied a marked LEO car. The cops were talking to a brunette, through an open door. The girl had a laptop literally, in her lap, as she talked to the LEOs. I thought it was Swaggs. Aha, she was working with LEO to set me up! I bailed.

Two days later, I got lambasted by Swaggs on this great forum. She just flat out blasted me. Called me Pimp Vino, etc. This started a feud of several years on this great Forum between her and I.

Obviously, my handle is Vino. I made my handle because I sold wine for a living. It turns out that a guy called Marty worked in a liquor store, near the Suburban, where Swaggs lived. It turned out that Swaggs had a date with Marty at one time. Supposedly, Marty treated her bad and Swaggs resented that. In her warped brain, since I sold wine for a living, she somehow thought that Marty was me! This burned in her warped brain for years. She spent probably close to five years on this great Forum, berating me, thinking I was Marty. I tried everything to convince her I was not Marty, all to no avail. Oh well, I gave it my best effort.

I have now found out that Marty has passed away. I have no malice towards the man but he is now gone. I am still here. Still Vino, still not Marty. There's more to it but I will leave it at RIP Marty.

The last I heard was that Swaggs looked like death warmed over. The last post about her was a monger saying he saw her on the Trail. She was barefoot, spinning in circles and arguing with imaginary people. She was literally, barking at the moon.

I leave you all with this link to a song that exemplifies Swaggs perfectly: Blue Oyster Cult, "The Subhuman. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM0_yR2oAvA. This song is well worth listening to.

**Twist** · 10-30-22 11:03

Originally Posted by BusterHymen [View Original Post]

I had avoided traveling to Canada because of the Covid restrictions, now since there are no restrictions at all, I plan to resume. Was just in Montreal last week, good times.

Over the years, have had both really good and really bad times in Canada. One of my worst was in Vancouver. Picked up a stunningly beautiful 18 year old and brought her to my hotel. She went into the bathroom to "freshen up" (which means to shoot up) Comes out in a towel, drops it, she was covered in bloody sores. She said " I have a picking problem, I do drugs". I told her to get dressed, she started crying, told her I would pay her anyway.

Dropped her off, went to the store, bought a gallon of bleach, roll of paper towels and rubber gloves. The hotel bathroom looked like a crime scene, blood everywhere. Took me a couple hours to clean it up, soaked the bloody towels in the tub with bleach. There was a maid cart in the hall, dumped the cleaned wet towels in the dirty towels pouch, grabbed clean ones. Took the two syringes out of the trash and took them to the biohazard bin in the restroom downstairs, along with the paper towels used for cleanup.

Still have the visual of this beautiful cute girl covered in blood stuck in my head, yuck.

Reads like you are shopping in the wrong parts of town.

This is what I don't like about Orlando; too many drugs. I tried the sugar scene and that did not work out for me. I avoid the street scene because that is a hellscape. I dabble in the UTR space but I am selective and my time is limited so the stars have to align for that to work. I spend most of my time in the AMP scene because the girls are clean and it is available when I want it. They are high mileage but get the job done.

I do miss my sugar up north. Did not know how good I had it.

**PapiCholo** · 10-30-22 09:03

Originally Posted by Vino7373 [View Original Post]

I debated whether to post this or not. There's a whole lot of backstory to it.

I've been on here for years. Please allow me to tell you a story.

About 15 years ago, I received a PM. This PM was from a popular provider on here, named Savannah, aka, "Swaggs. " in this PM, she offered me a free visit, because she, "respected and wanted to talk to me. " I immediately saw red flags but I responded and accepted the offer. At the time, Swaggs lived in the old Suburban, on 17-92, near the Green Parrot bar.

I was apprehensive, so I drove around the place a few times. On one of my loops, I spied a marked LEO car. The cops were talking to a brunette, through an open door. The girl had a laptop literally, in her lap, as she talked to the LEOs. I thought it was Swaggs. Aha, she was working with LEO to set me up! I bailed.

Two days later, I got lambasted by Swaggs on this great forum. She just flat out blasted me. Called me Pimp Vino, etc. This started a feud of several years on this great Forum between her and I.

Obviously, my handle is Vino. I made my handle because I sold wine for a living. It turns out that a guy called Marty worked in a liquor store, near the Suburban, where Swaggs lived. It turned out that Swaggs had a date with Marty at one time. Supposedly, Marty treated her bad and Swaggs resented that. In her warped brain, since I sold wine for a living, she somehow thought that Marty was me! This burned in her warped brain for years. She spent probably close to five years on this great Forum, berating me, thinking I was Marty. I tried everything to convince her I was not Marty, all to no avail. Oh well, I gave it my best effort.

I have now found out that Marty has passed away. I have no malice towards the man but he is now gone. I am still here. Still Vino, still not Marty. There's more to it but I will leave it at RIP Marty.

The last I heard was that Swaggs looked like death warmed over. The last post about her was a monger saying he saw her on the Trail. She was barefoot, spinning in circles and arguing with imaginary people. She was literally, barking at the moon.

I leave you all with this link to a song that exemplifies Swaggs perfectly: Blue Oyster Cult, "The Subhuman. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM0_yR2oAvA. This song is well worth listening to.

RIP Party Marty.

**Vino 7373** · 10-30-22 07:39

I debated whether to post this or not. There's a whole lot of backstory to it.

I've been on here for years. Please allow me to tell you a story.

About 15 years ago, I received a PM. This PM was from a popular provider on here, named Savannah, aka, "Swaggs. " in this PM, she offered me a free visit, because she, "respected and wanted to talk to me. " I immediately saw red flags but I responded and accepted the offer. At the time, Swaggs lived in the old Suburban, on 17-92, near the Green Parrot bar.

I was apprehensive, so I drove around the place a few times. On one of my loops, I spied a marked LEO car. The cops were talking to a brunette, through an open door. The girl had a laptop literally, in her lap, as she talked to the LEOs. I thought it was Swaggs. Aha, she was working with LEO to set me up! I bailed.

Two days later, I got lambasted by Swaggs on this great forum. She just flat out blasted me. Called me Pimp Vino, etc. This started a feud of several years on this great Forum between her and I.

Obviously, my handle is Vino. I made my handle because I sold wine for a living. It turns out that a guy called Marty worked in a liquor store, near the Suburban, where Swaggs lived. It turned out that Swaggs had a date with Marty at one time. Supposedly, Marty treated her bad and Swaggs resented that. In her warped brain, since I sold wine for a living, she somehow thought that Marty was me! This burned in her warped brain for years. She spent probably close to five years on this great Forum, berating me, thinking I was Marty. I tried everything to convince her I was not Marty, all to no avail. Oh well, I gave it my best effort.

I have now found out that Marty has passed away. I have no malice towards the man but he is now gone. I am still here. Still Vino, still not Marty. There's more to it but I will leave it at RIP Marty.

The last I heard was that Swaggs looked like death warmed over. The last post about her was a monger saying he saw her on the Trail. She was barefoot, spinning in circles and arguing with imaginary people. She was literally, barking at the moon.

I leave you all with this link to a song that exemplifies Swaggs perfectly: Blue Oyster Cult, "The Subhuman. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM0_yR2oAvA. This song is well worth listening to.