Non Pro's

**Flyer99** · 10-15-22 05:24

I think neither of you know what you really want out of a sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship. You're expecting glorified provider / client and she wants a rich best friend who has a crush on her.

Best of luck to you both.

Originally Posted by KnoxNenters [View Original Post]

Let's hear from both sides.

TL; DR: Girl wants sliding scale for hourly time. $200/ hr for platonic, unknown for intimate. She's really nice, not a pro, can't host, lives far away. She spent a lot of time with me on a meet and greet, coming in from her city to meet me, doing special things, sending texts. She seems like a great girl, but I think she has the wrong approach on how to do this. I told her I couldn't justify spending all that platonic time with her wondering if she'd ever decide she wanted intimacy, as a higher price as well. What would you advise her if she were to read your response in comments?

THE DETAILS:

I don't want to out this wonderful woman. She's a genuine sweeatheart, and we had a really wonderful meet & greet. She's gorgeous, a head-turner, smart and easy to fall in love with. Not a pro. We spent a solid 4+ hours together, walked a couple of miles, drinks and late lunch, time watching the sunset at the beach. Super compatible, a genuine connection. And that was just the m&g. So understand as I ask about this that I have respect for her, and we should always be kind, regardless of her age, profession, situation of need or approach to this whole endeavor. Having said that, here's details on her approach.

We booked a second get-together. She insisted we let her be ready for intimacy after she's comfortable with the relationship. So this 2nd 'date' was planned with no presumptions for intimacy. But it suddenly became time to get to the numbers. She admitted it was an awkward topic. Especially because she wanted a structure where I compensate her for her time at an hourly rate. She asked me what I thought would be an amount I would pay for an evening of fun, but no intimacy yet. I offered $300. She responded that she was thinking that amount PER HOUR. Platonic!

I gasped a bit. Would you?

I countered with $500 for the evening total. She wanted an hourly number. She texted me after the call asking for $200/ hr. I agreed to 3 hours at that rate, but as a flat rate, regardless of activity, going forward. IOW, whether platonic or intimate, it would be $200/ h now and later. My thinking was that as long as she's going to hem and haw about the duration and rate, I should get an agreement for all activity at one rate. I figured at 3 hours, an intimate encounter at $600 was kind of the going rate here for a 20-30 with a great body and attractive appearance / personality.

Other cost factors: She lives in a city 60 miles from Seattle, so she shouldn't be pricing herself at Seattle rates, IMO. I would additionally cover the gas, $200 hotel room and incidentals. So all-in, possibly $900 for an encounter. That's a lot, in general. Definitely above my preference. I doubt many of you would either. If you were filthy rich you wouldn't be trolling a shitty forum like this to talk about the used goods out there.

If she were to read your comments about this, what would you want her to know, in terms of her rates and angle?

**KnoxNenters** · 10-15-22 03:04

Let's hear from both sides.

TL; DR: Girl wants sliding scale for hourly time. $200/ hr for platonic, unknown for intimate. She's really nice, not a pro, can't host, lives far away. She spent a lot of time with me on a meet and greet, coming in from her city to meet me, doing special things, sending texts. She seems like a great girl, but I think she has the wrong approach on how to do this. I told her I couldn't justify spending all that platonic time with her wondering if she'd ever decide she wanted intimacy, as a higher price as well. What would you advise her if she were to read your response in comments?

THE DETAILS:

I don't want to out this wonderful woman. She's a genuine sweeatheart, and we had a really wonderful meet & greet. She's gorgeous, a head-turner, smart and easy to fall in love with. Not a pro. We spent a solid 4+ hours together, walked a couple of miles, drinks and late lunch, time watching the sunset at the beach. Super compatible, a genuine connection. And that was just the m&g. So understand as I ask about this that I have respect for her, and we should always be kind, regardless of her age, profession, situation of need or approach to this whole endeavor. Having said that, here's details on her approach.

We booked a second get-together. She insisted we let her be ready for intimacy after she's comfortable with the relationship. So this 2nd 'date' was planned with no presumptions for intimacy. But it suddenly became time to get to the numbers. She admitted it was an awkward topic. Especially because she wanted a structure where I compensate her for her time at an hourly rate. She asked me what I thought would be an amount I would pay for an evening of fun, but no intimacy yet. I offered $300. She responded that she was thinking that amount PER HOUR. Platonic!

I gasped a bit. Would you?

I countered with $500 for the evening total. She wanted an hourly number. She texted me after the call asking for $200/ hr. I agreed to 3 hours at that rate, but as a flat rate, regardless of activity, going forward. IOW, whether platonic or intimate, it would be $200/ h now and later. My thinking was that as long as she's going to hem and haw about the duration and rate, I should get an agreement for all activity at one rate. I figured at 3 hours, an intimate encounter at $600 was kind of the going rate here for a 20-30 with a great body and attractive appearance / personality.

Other cost factors: She lives in a city 60 miles from Seattle, so she shouldn't be pricing herself at Seattle rates, IMO. I would additionally cover the gas, $200 hotel room and incidentals. So all-in, possibly $900 for an encounter. That's a lot, in general. Definitely above my preference. I doubt many of you would either. If you were filthy rich you wouldn't be trolling a shitty forum like this to talk about the used goods out there.

If she were to read your comments about this, what would you want her to know, in terms of her rates and angle?

**Bronco62** · 10-14-22 20:43

Ashley82 GPS. Wants 700 per meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0755c6d7-72ce-4117-9d1a-1bc20ed3a110

**MilfHunter66** · 10-14-22 19:17

Originally Posted by Joseph1955 [View Original Post]

It's too bad you gave him / her anything. I'm convinced that a lot of these profiles are simply boiler room shops with no expectations beyond pulling in a few bucks here, a few bucks there. Work a few new leads a day, probably can bring in $100 a day just sitting at the computer.

We met in person and had coffee she is real. I don't send money off to someone I never met. She talked a good story to good enough to throw up red flags. My gut told me I would never see her again and I was right. It was a small price to pay to double check that my big brain still works.

**Joseph1955** · 10-14-22 17:40

Originally Posted by MilfHunter66 [View Original Post]

Lonelyinseattle.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-41c61fe02b93

Don't waste your time with this one. She just trying to pull a nickel and dime scam. Having a hard time blah blah blah. I used her to check my bs and scam senses. I gave a little bit of money and we planned a lunch date. Well I was right about her.

It's too bad you gave him / her anything. I'm convinced that a lot of these profiles are simply boiler room shops with no expectations beyond pulling in a few bucks here, a few bucks there. Work a few new leads a day, probably can bring in $100 a day just sitting at the computer.

**MilfHunter66** · 10-14-22 17:06

Lonelyinseattle.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...9-41c61fe02b93

Don't waste your time with this one. She just trying to pull a nickel and dime scam. Having a hard time blah blah blah. I used her to check my bs and scam senses. I gave a little bit of money and we planned a lunch date. Well I was right about her.

**KnoxNenters** · 10-14-22 02:30

Originally Posted by OliverQueen [View Original Post]

Also saw her for $500. MSOG and bare. She was honestly one of the best in bed I have ever been with. Very enthusiastic, passionate, and talented. No joke, my pelvis was bruised / tender the next day.

She sent me a bunch of images of herself one evening. Each one got more risque. But she had these massive surgical scars. Looked like breast reduction and Panniculectomy. She was ready to get real dirty. I personally found it all too forward and didn't continue engaging with her. But what you've mentioned is reassuring. I guess she really loves it. Also, good to know her price point. Thanks.

**OliverQueen** · 10-13-22 16:07

I've had mixed results with girls that say they are bi. The ones where there were threesomes, I had to invite the third, and there wasn't the best chemistry between them.

Has anyone had a recent positive threesome experience with SBs?

**OliverQueen** · 10-13-22 15:25

Originally Posted by DrtyHarry [View Original Post]

Looks very promisng. If anyone have any intel, Please share.

Also saw her for $500. MSOG and bare. She was honestly one of the best in bed I have ever been with. Very enthusiastic, passionate, and talented. No joke, my pelvis was bruised / tender the next day.

**FlirtyBelle** · 10-12-22 18:13

Originally Posted by PoonHound1969 [View Original Post]

Thank you! Um who are you? LOL.

I'm Flirtybelle. You've been making posts about me.

**Flyer99** · 10-12-22 17:14

Did she say that to you or are you assuming? Many of these women are hounded by some creepy dudes on a regular basis and since we live in a land of passive aggressive guys with no game, it ain't surprising a gal may want to meet during the day in a more casual setting at first.

It may not be 100% but it's her decision. Take her to lunch, ya never know.

Originally Posted by Paradigum [View Original Post]

For me I'm not attractive enough to even meet for dinner. She states it must be a lunch / brunch during the day. LOL. Dinner is too scary and she cares for her safety. Even in very public places.

**3Putt** · 10-12-22 16:47

Originally Posted by FlirtyBelle [View Original Post]

Love your username. Super cute.

Thank you! Um who are you? LOL.

**FlirtyBelle** · 10-12-22 11:34

Originally Posted by PoonHound1969 [View Original Post]

Blocked!

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...f-71816b300477

Love your username. Super cute.

**FlirtyBelle** · 10-12-22 11:33

Originally Posted by Paradigum [View Original Post]

For me I'm not attractive enough to even meet for dinner. She states it must be a lunch / brunch during the day. LOL. Dinner is too scary and she cares for her safety. Even in very public places.

I care for my safety because I've had scary experiences. After reading what you've all said about other women on this website, I'd say it's quite warranted.