NoVA SugarBabies

[ProCatHunter]

IDK man, maybe everything returns to average when compared to 2020/2021, but I hear stories about the glory days of the 2010's, early 2000's, or even the 90's and 80's. Days when SB's on SA were all 7+ and wanted a few hundred a week for clock-free hangouts. Days when you could go to a strip club and bang a 10 for $100 in the VIP rooms.

Think about it, before OF existed, every single girl who has her tits out online would be either:

1. Working a normal job and struggling.

2. Bartending / bottle girling and getting tips and maybe SD's from high rollers.

3. Have her tits out in a strip club.

SO much talent is now gone from the physical realm and mostly sequestered online now.

Based on all my conversations with girls, online is a harder gig and harder to make any money on. Only a top percentage of girls make any real money online. Plus most "normal" girls don't want to do online because 1. You're showing tits to strangers, 2. you can't really control if someone is recording you, and 3. It feels like porn.

The beauty of seeking has always been that it lets SBs convince themselves that it's no different than dating, and that they get to control who they see and bang. If someone they know finds them on the site, they can say they were just trying to date an older sexy guy. Harder to pull that off when your best friend sees you selling your tits on OF.

Agree that a lot of talent dropped off seeking the past few years, but don't think that it was because of online OF. I think it's because the labor market has been tight and they haven't needed to. I think you're going to see a major influx of new talent in the next year or two.

As for clock free hangouts, those have always, and are still the case with the right SB.

I know you previously posted that you don't enjoy working out and that food is a stress reliever for you, but if you dropped 20 lbs, I think you'd be amazed at the difference in how SBs treat you. I'm no Bodybuilder by any means and am definitely Chubby. But was about 30 lbs heavier a few years back. The difference in the girls that respond to my messages after dropping pounds is night and day.

As for banging a 10 in a VIP room of a strip joint. I've never had that pleasure even after the tech crash of '99. Every hot stripper I ever encountered was a mercenary with her kitty. I've banged plenty of 8-10's on seeking for $150-200 though back in the day after the 08 crash.

Best of luck gents and happy hunting.

[ProCatHunter]

There's an old saw in the sales game you can find one fool to pay $1 K a ton or 5 reasonable customer to pay $200 a ton. Both take about the same amount of work. So there will always be the smoking hot sex machine who will hold out for the 1 a month at $1 k and the 7 or 8 who will bang once a week for $250.

I live in central VA, about an hour from two decent markets. Definitely seeing an increase in willingness to drive to me now that gas prices are less heinous.

Recently chatted with a 33 yo college grad who teaches yoga and waitresses. 10 years out of school and she is barely making ends meet. Bring back student loans and she's underwater without banging for bucks.

The gig economy is saturated and eventually enough will realize the subsistence existence of the past two years just doesn't cut it. They are going to get nailed anyway why not soberly plan to get nailed by an older gent who is not just a human jack hammer and knows his pleasure is guaranteed so he will focus on delivering hers. Gets them every time.

Everything returns to the average over time. Looks like pussy is heading there as well.

Wait till the impending recession hits. Once layoffs (tech, real estate, etc.) hit, that lady's yoga gig disappears when the wife of the tech bro loses his job and his wife can't enjoy all the discretionary perks she used to when he was being paid an overblown salary.

The economy has been running on the fumes of fed liquidity since 08, and the powers that be are stuck in an inflation / liquidity trap. Cpi will come in light tomorrow, the markets will rally hard, and then the Fed is going to have to pour cold water on everyone's expectations to keep its credibility. None of it is good news.

After the mid terms, the Dems will have to turn student loans back on to force people into the work force and push down labor costs. There are going to be a boatload of single hot milfs out there in the sugar bowl. Who are going to be sugaring out of necessity to put food on the table (be nice to them fellahs).

In any case, EarnestLi put it better than I did. Dynamics of the sugar bowl are changing. As a guy who provided his fair share of nosebleed allowances in the recent past, I'm ok with this slowdown.

[Tyrex2]

IDK man, maybe everything returns to average when compared to 2020/2021, but I hear stories about the glory days of the 2010's, early 2000's, or even the 90's and 80's. Days when SB's on SA were all 7+ and wanted a few hundred a week for clock-free hangouts. Days when you could go to a strip club and bang a 10 for $100 in the VIP rooms.

Think about it, before OF existed, every single girl who has her tits out online would be either:

1. Working a normal job and struggling.

2. Bartending / bottle girling and getting tips and maybe SD's from high rollers.

3. Have her tits out in a strip club.

SO much talent is now gone from the physical realm and mostly sequestered online now.

It was more than $100 after 2000 Least up here, Florida, well that stayed cheap AF for years. Those were the days. Whole thing ramp up to 2007, then reset and been ramping up since. Looking for the drop. Yep, just like that. LOL.

[RegularJoe1985]

I remember her now. I actually had negotiated with her before! I knew the face was familiar. When I went back into the old reviews it all clicked with talk of her being big. I remember she sent me a few pics and one was a less than flattering gym pic.

Now, I'm not cut out of stone myself, and I'm not too too critical. It's just how the package is put together. I don't mind meat on a woman but I remember at the time I was firmly on the fence with her.

Thanks for the reminders gents. Will negotiate accordingly.

Yes Katie. LOL.

Told her to have her recent pics on the site and not such old ones where she's what 40 lbs lighter, LOL.

She was very upset at me for that, not that I cared.

Am sorry to say that she is not worth 400, but YMMV.

[BobDingle10]

Search for Katie10376 on this forum.

Her pics were, as others have pointed out, not a true reflection of her looks, she's quite a bit chunky.

Got upset when I called her out after she sent her pics.

A colleague of mine met her a couple of times for 250 ppm.

She indicated that she was more interested in gangbang scene in the area and that's why she was away for some time.

Perhaps $ needs pushing her back since the local scene cannot provide support.

I remember her now. I actually had negotiated with her before! I knew the face was familiar. When I went back into the old reviews it all clicked with talk of her being big. I remember she sent me a few pics and one was a less than flattering gym pic.

Now, I'm not cut out of stone myself, and I'm not too too critical. It's just how the package is put together. I don't mind meat on a woman but I remember at the time I was firmly on the fence with her.

Thanks for the reminders gents. Will negotiate accordingly.

[Mcsylv]

There's an old saw in the sales game you can find one fool to pay $1 K a ton or 5 reasonable customer to pay $200 a ton. Both take about the same amount of work. So there will always be the smoking hot sex machine who will hold out for the 1 a month at $1 k and the 7 or 8 who will bang once a week for $250.

I live in central VA, about an hour from two decent markets. Definitely seeing an increase in willingness to drive to me now that gas prices are less heinous.

Recently chatted with a 33 yo college grad who teaches yoga and waitresses. 10 years out of school and she is barely making ends meet. Bring back student loans and she's underwater without banging for bucks.

The gig economy is saturated and eventually enough will realize the subsistence existence of the past two years just doesn't cut it. They are going to get nailed anyway why not soberly plan to get nailed by an older gent who is not just a human jack hammer and knows his pleasure is guaranteed so he will focus on delivering hers. Gets them every time.

Everything returns to the average over time. Looks like pussy is heading there as well.

IDK man, maybe everything returns to average when compared to 2020/2021, but I hear stories about the glory days of the 2010's, early 2000's, or even the 90's and 80's. Days when SB's on SA were all 7+ and wanted a few hundred a week for clock-free hangouts. Days when you could go to a strip club and bang a 10 for $100 in the VIP rooms.

Think about it, before OF existed, every single girl who has her tits out online would be either:

1. Working a normal job and struggling.

2. Bartending / bottle girling and getting tips and maybe SD's from high rollers.

3. Have her tits out in a strip club.

SO much talent is now gone from the physical realm and mostly sequestered online now.

[RegularJoe1985]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-c0f20439a1ea

I met with her for some hotel fun over a year ago. Pretty face, but she a little too thick for my taste. Typical LFK, DATY, BBJ, and cover action. She was open to BBFS if we become regular. I had better choices so didn't continue to pursue it. My damage at the time was 400.

Please don't msg me for numbers, but feel free to msg me for any other questions.

Search for Katie10376 on this forum.

Her pics were, as others have pointed out, not a true reflection of her looks, she's quite a bit chunky.

Got upset when I called her out after she sent her pics.

A colleague of mine met her a couple of times for 250 ppm.

She indicated that she was more interested in gangbang scene in the area and that's why she was away for some time.

Perhaps $ needs pushing her back since the local scene cannot provide support.

[Lobsid]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-c0f20439a1ea

I met with her for some hotel fun over a year ago. Pretty face, but she a little too thick for my taste. Typical LFK, DATY, BBJ, and cover action. She was open to BBFS if we become regular. I had better choices so didn't continue to pursue it. My damage at the time was 400.

Please don't msg me for numbers, but feel free to msg me for any other questions.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-c0f20439a1ea

When she opened up her photos to me the face looked familiar. I swear she's been reviewed or mentioned here.

Any of you gents remember her and have any info?

[Ernest Ll]

There's an old saw in the sales game — you can find one fool to pay $1 K a ton or 5 reasonable customer to pay $200 a ton. Both take about the same amount of work. So there will always be the smoking hot sex machine who will hold out for the 1 a month at $1 k and the 7 or 8 who will bang once a week for $250.

I live in central VA, about an hour from two decent markets. Definitely seeing an increase in willingness to drive to me now that gas prices are less heinous.

Recently chatted with a 33 yo college grad who teaches yoga and waitresses. 10 years out of school and she is barely making ends meet. Bring back student loans and she's underwater without banging for bucks.

The gig economy is saturated and eventually enough will realize the subsistence existence of the past two years just doesn't cut it. They are going to get nailed anyway — why not soberly plan to get nailed by an older gent who is not just a human jack hammer and knows his pleasure is guaranteed so he will focus on delivering hers. Gets them every time.

Everything returns to the average over time. Looks like pussy is heading there as well.

[Mcsylv]

Girls aren't complaining to me but I've noticed a few things:

1. Profiles that wouldn't have given me the time of day in 2021 are responding. I take that as a signal that inboxes are getting less full.

2. In 2021/2020, I couldn't open with a "My prior sugar arrangement started with a $300/300 ppm" line when messaging ladies. I'd get immediately blocked or left on read. I'm regularly receiving responses that counter now. It's a sure sign that either more ladies are entering the bowl, or there are fewer SDs, or likely a combination of both.

3. More than a few profiles that I had favorited a few years back but had disappeared because they were deactivated popped back up again. Likely because their former SDs dropped them, or because the ladies are looking for additional funds, or a combination of both.

No doubt there are lots of girls still asking for $1 k+ ppm. Based on my experience, there always were and likely always will be. I'm finding that they are starting to become more of an outlier, when about a year or two back, they were starting to be the norm. Now, I'll occasionally find a ppm in the $200/250 range. Again, very much not the norm, but that amount of allowance would've earned me a block in January 2021.

The sugar bowl is watching pure capitalism work at its best. The law of supply and demand regulates better than anything else.

Nice predictions before. Agree with you more now. Seeing a "reinflux" of folks. Had an old SB drop on me out of the blue. Yep, still asking for too much but I'll go with it for a bit cause she's fun to play with. My experience stretches back to the "Great Recession" period and mongering well before that during the mortgage crisis. The "Golden Years" - likely going to see similar kind of things when the jobs / salaries dry up and inflation goes up, the quality goes up (no options pay better / need overrides sentiment) and prices go down (inflation adjusted). Good thing for me is my type of business / work is pretty insulated from ups / downs- its the corporate equivalent of medication for us civilian folks, just got to hope I can continue to adjust for inflation and we don't see hyper inflation. I am reminded of the blessing / curse dichotomy - "May you live in interesting times".

I've only seriously been in the bowl since October 2021, so I don't have any old SB's hitting me back up. I do notice the quality of girls going up compared to when I first started though. Not that any of those model-like girls are talking to me, but at least now I see them on Seeking, vs. 7's LOL.

Her profile is now listing Oklahoma City, so.

I blocked her so I didn't see, but welp guess that answers the question.

[Member #6353]

Her profile is now listing Oklahoma City, so.

She used the $350 she got from him to buy greyhound tickets, and is now on to a better life in Oklahoma 😂.

[GMarts018]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-c0f20439a1ea

When she opened up her photos to me the face looked familiar. I swear she's been reviewed or mentioned here.

Any of you gents remember her and have any info?

I don't have a lot of intel but she's pretty thicc. I know she's legit and likes to meet.

[BobDingle10]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...3-c0f20439a1ea

When she opened up her photos to me the face looked familiar. I swear she's been reviewed or mentioned here.

Any of you gents remember her and have any info?

[Itfcd]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...9-4b88143c8098

Plenty of us could have told about that one well in advance; that woman's photos get trotted out for fake ads about as much as anyone's.

[Itfcd]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...7-5eec4287b916

Summary: either a scammer, or just too plain crazy and in a ridiculous situation, arrangement would never work.

Her profile is now listing Oklahoma City, so.