Utr

[WayneAshley380]

Jenna and I asked Kween if she would like to come over, have dinner, and then have a two-hour threesome session. Kween said she was down for that, and we set up a time for me to pick her up and bring her to Jenna's condo. The rate she asked for was $375 for the two hours after dinner, not $700+ as Wayne tells it. I have the texts to prove it if he wants to keep running his mouth.

I pick her up and make us a nice steak dinner. Everyone is chatting and having a good time. Kween is telling us about her upcoming music thing in Chicago and that she wants to play music for us. She plays song after song after song. Never letting up. Jenna and I tried to get things going, but Kween kept going about whatever and ignoring any advances.

Jenna gets her some stockings so they will match, and Kween puts them on, then proceeds to play more music.

The whole night Kween was getting texts and phone calls regarding a flop house that had just been raided and friends who are now in custody and need bail. This went on the whole time she was there.

Jenna says she's going to go upstairs, and we should join her, and Kween ignores it. Kween then suggests we play strip card games. I wind up with nothing on, and Jenna is in lingerie, and Kween pulled out her tits. I now suggest we go to the couch or the bedroom and get everyone out of their clothes. Kween says she has to feed her dog.

I'm aggravated at this point, so I say fuck it, I'll drive you back. I get dressed, Kween comments on how fast I did it, and I take her back to her hotel. She asked me about the money on the way, and I told her that she didn't do anything we had agreed upon despite numerous attempts to have her do so.

Kween says she'll knock it down to $250 instead of the original $375. I explained that she did nothing to uphold her end of the agreement, so there was no way I was giving her that amount. Kween then blows up Jenna's phone for a couple of hours, telling her that she needs money for her room and making subtle threats. Jenna doesn't know what to do as she dislikes drama, so she asked Kween what the rate was on her room ($112) and asked me to send her that so this could end.

Against my better judgment, I gave Jenna the money, and she sent it to Kween, but Kween wasn't satisfied with that. Kween continued with the threats and bullshit.

Then Wayne starts texting me, giving me some "legal" bullshit about how it's still a valid date and she should be paid if she didn't refuse to have sex with anyone. Like one of us was supposed to start groping Kween, and if she said no, that was the only way to be able to refuse to pay her.

I don't know what Kween told Wayne, but much of it was bullshit, including the money that was agreed to. Jenna was there, and Wayne wasn't, so believe who you want about it.

I have the texts both from Kween and you and from you to me.

You agreed to $375/2 hr you spent four hours with her.

She greatly reduced her threesome rate from $300 an hour, even after you cancelled last minute on her the night before, because she's gay af and was horny af.

Your girl paid because as a working girl she realized that the debit was legit.

You pay for their time. If it took you four hours to realize that the date wasn't going to go your way you're a special kinda stupid.

I also have your text to me saying if you had been with your girl she would not have sent any money. So don't try to bs now and say you covered it. Your girl did.

Kween has seen a few members here, not one single bad review or complain. But somehow she chose you to twirl? BS.

Everyone who has seen her will tell you that she professional, personable and DTF. She even went against her standard practices to fit into this group.

You fucked her over but your girl stepped up and made it right and I gave her 50 for the aggravation I caused by not only giving you her number but actually recommending you based on your being a gatekeeper.

As far as I'm concerned it's over
But next time you threaten to meet me, show the fuck up

[Bertox50]

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[Bertox50]

I can vouch for the credibility of Kween. I've seen her twice and she's one of the nicest most professional providers I've ever seen.

You can vouch for your visits with her, but certainly not mine. My visit was a cluster-fuck. So YMMV works for SWs to UTRs.

[Bertox50]

Jenna and I asked Kween if she would like to come over, have dinner, and then have a two-hour threesome session. Kween said she was down for that, and we set up a time for me to pick her up and bring her to Jenna's condo. The rate she asked for was $375 for the two hours after dinner, not $700+ as Wayne tells it. I have the texts to prove it if he wants to keep running his mouth.

I pick her up and make us a nice steak dinner. Everyone is chatting and having a good time. Kween is telling us about her upcoming music thing in Chicago and that she wants to play music for us. She plays song after song after song. Never letting up. Jenna and I tried to get things going, but Kween kept going about whatever and ignoring any advances.

Jenna gets her some stockings so they will match, and Kween puts them on, then proceeds to play more music.

The whole night Kween was getting texts and phone calls regarding a flop house that had just been raided and friends who are now in custody and need bail. This went on the whole time she was there.

Jenna says she's going to go upstairs, and we should join her, and Kween ignores it. Kween then suggests we play strip card games. I wind up with nothing on, and Jenna is in lingerie, and Kween pulled out her tits. I now suggest we go to the couch or the bedroom and get everyone out of their clothes. Kween says she has to feed her dog.

I'm aggravated at this point, so I say fuck it, I'll drive you back. I get dressed, Kween comments on how fast I did it, and I take her back to her hotel. She asked me about the money on the way, and I told her that she didn't do anything we had agreed upon despite numerous attempts to have her do so.

Kween says she'll knock it down to $250 instead of the original $375. I explained that she did nothing to uphold her end of the agreement, so there was no way I was giving her that amount. Kween then blows up Jenna's phone for a couple of hours, telling her that she needs money for her room and making subtle threats. Jenna doesn't know what to do as she dislikes drama, so she asked Kween what the rate was on her room ($112) and asked me to send her that so this could end.

Against my better judgment, I gave Jenna the money, and she sent it to Kween, but Kween wasn't satisfied with that. Kween continued with the threats and bullshit.

Then Wayne starts texting me, giving me some "legal" bullshit about how it's still a valid date and she should be paid if she didn't refuse to have sex with anyone. Like one of us was supposed to start groping Kween, and if she said no, that was the only way to be able to refuse to pay her.

I don't know what Kween told Wayne, but much of it was bullshit, including the money that was agreed to. Jenna was there, and Wayne wasn't, so believe who you want about it.

[Dugglc]

His girl, possibly Jenna made good on the debt.

That should be enough to prove the debt was legit.

It's a shame that the money had to come from one girl to pay another.

Deal with him with caution.
Deal with her with confidence

I can vouch for the credibility of Kween. I've seen her twice and she's one of the nicest most professional providers I've ever seen.

[WayneAshley380]

Meanwhile, I get ignored while a guy like that gets to play.

I know it's frustrating.

But this absolutely validates the screening process for UTRs.

Hmu for Diamond's number
I've had more than one member tell me that she should have been treated as a UTR

[WayneAshley380]

Meanwhile, I get ignored while a guy like that gets to play.

It's bertox50.

His girl, possibly Jenna, paid Kween the next day after Bertox50 stiffed her to me that proves the debt was real.

Kween even reduced the rate from 750 to 250 for four hours because they ended up just hanging.

I gave her an additional 50 for the aggravation I caused by not only giving this guy her number, but for actually recommending him because he was a gatekeeper.

And yes I have all the text confirming.

[ThrowAway711]

Can't you call him out? It may help other gatekeepers from giving out a number to the wrong person and someone else get stiffed again. I'm asking because I'm not sure of the rules.

Sox.

Meanwhile, I get ignored while a guy like that gets to play.

[Redsox2005]

Can't you call him out? It may help other gatekeepers from giving out a number to the wrong person and someone else get stiffed again. I'm asking because I'm not sure of the rules.

Sox.

A well respected senior member just stiffed Kween.

She's moving and needed the money.

She trusted him because he came from here.

If you don't want to pay up front, then don't dine and dash.

[Enzo2018]

Thanks for the hookup Bertox. Finally met Jenna, everything that has been said is correct. She's a shorty with great body,. Very GFE, amazing dtbbj, daty was tasty and clean, she really gets into it. Amazing time with her. Treat her well so she stays in Otown.

[WayneAshley380]

His girl, possibly Jenna made good on the debt.

That should be enough to prove the debt was legit.

It's a shame that the money had to come from one girl to pay another.

Deal with him with caution.
Deal with her with confidence

[WayneAshley380]

A well respected senior member just stiffed Kween.

She's moving and needed the money.

She trusted him because he came from here.

If you don't want to pay up front, then don't dine and dash.

[CheeseCookies]

I was DMing you about this, so thanks for your help, but I'm kind of disappointed now that I see the post you quoted. I was in town for a few days and was really looking to set something up with her. Totally dodged my messages even after following up twice and checking in with you. I figured it might have been because of my regular member status and maybe she wasn't fully trusting, but I see the person you quoted also is a regular member with little posts. So I'm not sure why she skipped my messages, but that kind of sucks. I honestly even would have appreciated a response saying she didn't feel comfortable meeting.

I messaged her with maybe around the same-ish posts as you and she did answer, but it took a few days to that happen. You might actually get a response, but unfortunately it might be when you're already gone.

[Dugglc]

Thank you I'll give her a try I used to see her weekly until her problems started happening and she was asking me for money a lot which usually turns me off. I will see what she says when I give her a try this weekend.

If those are the reasons you stopped seeing her nothing has changed and if anything it's a lot worse now. Not going to bash her on the forum but you are welcome to pm me if you want to discuss it further.

[Mikaeles]

Thank you I'll give her a try I used to see her weekly until her problems started happening and she was asking me for money a lot which usually turns me off. I will see what she says when I give her a try this weekend.

I see her once or twice a week. She has gone very low volume and has her fan base. If you have her number keep trying. If not I will ask if it's OK to give it out but I doubt it. If she says OK I'll PM you.