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  1. #17487

    Gfe

    Thanks but you / SB lost me with the whole 10% scheme. There's no one size fits all. I think the important factors are - 1) is she real? 2) is she representing herself honestly (are the pics and description accurate)? 3) is she honest in her dealings (won't go into your pockets when you leave the room to take a pee)? Once I know this much, I am experienced / adventurous enough to figure out the rest for myself without needing someone to hold my hand all the way through like I did in kindergarten. To me, it ruins the romance of the date to have everything spelled out for you in a review.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    The hobbyist's definition was devised and posted prior to 2000 from the defunct old Big Doggie which competed with Ter. Back then, finding and getting GFE or PSE was a slam dunk.

    I posted a copy of the author's quote (St. Bart) here back in 2015.

    It still applies today as it's logical and makes sense in this world of increasing spammers, scammers, and fakers.

    Quoted below:

  2. #17486
    Quote Originally Posted by JackBeQuick1  [View Original Post]
    Fellow hobbyists / mongers.

    I have a WYP girl looking for new clients, kinda low volume. PM me for details. BBFSCIP, No anal, BBBJ.

    5'6 135-140. Descent enough. Not ugly, not beautiful but somewhere in the middle. Downside she is in Westwood / Dedham right off 95, literally off 95. I have seen her twice, pretty good upbeat attitude, wasn't high. As always YMMV. Did not partake in the BBFS, did find out it was an option until after we were done.
    How can I find her contact info?

  3. #17485

    GFE Definition & History (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sounds  [View Original Post]
    Hmm. Guess that means she will be too tired to fuck and just roll over and go to sleep!

    But seriously, it means different things to each girl. Agree you have to get her to say what it means to her.
    The hobbyist's definition was devised and posted prior to 2000 from the defunct old Big Doggie which competed with Ter. Back then, finding and getting GFE or PSE was a slam dunk.

    I posted a copy of the author's quote (St. Bart) here back in 2015.

    It still applies today as it's logical and makes sense in this world of increasing spammers, scammers, and fakers.

    Quoted below:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMacDaddy  [View Original Post]
    10 to 15 years ago, a hobbyist devised the definition. It made sense to me.


    "When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

    BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist. "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

    So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

    Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a "+” or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse? I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. Be&the, or golden showers, etc.

  4. #17484
    Quote Originally Posted by Tapeguy1  [View Original Post]
    For those of you willing to shell out 4 for an HR, you need to add her to your bucket list. ATF. She leaves Saturday.

    https://www.eros.com/rhode_island/pr...?cat=6208&wn=1
    Some details? BBBJ? Anal? Multiple pops? Kissing?

    Calling her your ATF isn't really helpful.

  5. #17483
    Quote Originally Posted by Tapeguy1  [View Original Post]
    For those of you willing to shell out 4 for an HR, you need to add her to your bucket list. ATF. She leaves Saturday.

    https://www.eros.com/rhode_island/pr...?cat=6208&wn=1
    I was wondering about her!

    She's legit? Next to the airport?

  6. #17482

    Emily in Waltham

    https://worcester.skipthegames.com/f...y/733932328896

    Checked on this board and in Boston Forum. Didn't see anything under Emily but she resembles a girl posting maybe 6 months ago and there were reports of heavy drug use and a boyfriend / handler / supplier. Like her look but it's a long ride for me. Any Intel would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Sorry wrong Forum. Will relist Post in Worcester ma forum.
    Last edited by ReadyToLear; 07-28-22 at 10:49. Reason: Wrong forum

  7. #17481
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2140

    Gfe

    Quote Originally Posted by Adobe  [View Original Post]
    I've had providers tell me that GFE means they'll treat me like a real girlfriend.
    Hmm. Guess that means she will be too tired to fuck and just roll over and go to sleep!

    But seriously, it means different things to each girl. Agree you have to get her to say what it means to her.

  8. #17480
    Quote Originally Posted by ADistraction  [View Original Post]
    Anyone have any lucky with either of? Or any recommendations of real girls. Help a dude out.

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/hunny-co...vidence-924055

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/melissa-...vidence-401973
    Coco comes up often.

    #17203.

    #16425.

    #16423.

    Super hot, service is lackluster.

    Maybe you might be into that. I'm kinda kicking myself for not seeing Aalliyah before she moved to Miami because she was hot af and got similar reviews.

    Sometimes you want to get something for your money, sometimes you want a hot piece of ass instead of a gremlin. Just as long as you know what you're getting into and getting what you want.

  9. #17479

    Run, Don't walk

    For those of you willing to shell out 4 for an HR, you need to add her to your bucket list. ATF. She leaves Saturday.

    https://www.eros.com/rhode_island/pr...?cat=6208&wn=1

  10. #17478
    Quote Originally Posted by Hcat113  [View Original Post]
    What's the price?
    4 for she can come to you.

  11. #17477

    Any Intel?

    Anyone have any lucky with either of? Or any recommendations of real girls. Help a dude out.

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/hunny-co...vidence-924055

    https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/melissa-...vidence-401973

  12. #17476
    Quote Originally Posted by Adobe  [View Original Post]
    Due respect, bro, but some providers use PSE the way that offers use GFE: to mean whatever. And how little. They want it to mean. I've had providers tell me that GFE means they'll treat me like a real girlfriend. Seriously? I'm offering the do-re-mi to be treated better than a girlfriend or wife. (I suppose a mistress knows that you're paying for her lifestyle, so a mistress puts in more effort. But I wouldn't know, LOL.).

    Nah, most mongers consider GFE to mean BBBJ at the very least. I mean, unless the ad contains those three letters - "GFE" - I assume that oral is covered and there's going to be an upcharge for no cover. You got to realize that any provider who acts as if she doesn't know what GFE means is just playing dumb. ("GFE means a no-tongue kiss," is one explanation I've heard.) You got to get it in writing, and by that I mean in the texts exchanged.

    So what does PSE mean? If it means "I'm going to pretend to like spending time with you," well, hell no. If you getting a donation for a half-hour of your company, "acting as if" is part of the job. None of us should be offering roses for some gal to lie there and look off to the side while the deed is going on. That's BS.

    At least some providers use PSE as code for BBFS, whether with CIP or not. A few think it means a trip to the Greek Islands (well, there's only actually one island). If a provider is bragging about PSE and she really thinks it means great acting and wriggling around and moaning, well, I would expect her to be loud enough to get kicked out of the hotel for disturbing other guests..
    This is the reason why PSE isn't a particularly useful term, IMHO. I mean, a "sexual situation akin to a scene in a porn movie". Ok. What kind of porn movie? It's not like there's only one genre of porn! It could literally mean anything. Or, more likely, nothing.

  13. #17475
    Senior Member


    Posts: 787

    PSE. Let's agree that it has to mean something

    Quote Originally Posted by DoItForTheCat  [View Original Post]
    Just some facts to consider.

    Porn Star Experience (PSE) is a type of service offered by some sex workers that simulates a sexual situation akin to a scene in porn movie.

    Rarely is a PSE provided by an actual porn star.

    PSE includes, but not limited to, exaggerated moaning and dirty talk, difficult and adventurous sexual positions, anal sex, deep throating oral (possibly to the point of gagging), facial or body ejaculation, spanking, BDSM and other fetishes, or using sex toys.

    Some mongers also believe that it includes BBFS, but that is not always the case, YMWV.

    Can still be a lot of fun, especially if it's captured in video!
    Due respect, bro, but some providers use PSE the way that offers use GFE: to mean whatever. And how little. They want it to mean. I've had providers tell me that GFE means they'll treat me like a real girlfriend. Seriously? I'm offering the do-re-mi to be treated better than a girlfriend or wife. (I suppose a mistress knows that you're paying for her lifestyle, so a mistress puts in more effort. But I wouldn't know, LOL.).

    Nah, most mongers consider GFE to mean BBBJ at the very least. I mean, unless the ad contains those three letters - "GFE" - I assume that oral is covered and there's going to be an upcharge for no cover. You got to realize that any provider who acts as if she doesn't know what GFE means is just playing dumb. ("GFE means a no-tongue kiss," is one explanation I've heard.) You got to get it in writing, and by that I mean in the texts exchanged.

    So what does PSE mean? If it means "I'm going to pretend to like spending time with you," well, hell no. If you getting a donation for a half-hour of your company, "acting as if" is part of the job. None of us should be offering roses for some gal to lie there and look off to the side while the deed is going on. That's BS.

    At least some providers use PSE as code for BBFS, whether with CIP or not. A few think it means a trip to the Greek Islands (well, there's only actually one island). If a provider is bragging about PSE and she really thinks it means great acting and wriggling around and moaning, well, I would expect her to be loud enough to get kicked out of the hotel for disturbing other guests.

    Nah, bros. . . PSE that's included in the service has got to mean something more than a few basic low-level courtesy moans.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Adobe.

  14. #17474
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodey  [View Original Post]
    Hey was wondering if anyone has any information or met up with her?

    https://www.eros.com/rhode_island/pr...es/7049703.htm

    Been messaging her for a couple days haven't pulled the trigger.
    What's the price?

  15. #17473

    Red

    YMMV. She's a nice gal, but when I tried to probe down there she said she wasn't in the mood.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAbored  [View Original Post]
    I did 200 hh & that included anal in multiple positions.

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