"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Bill Ginn]

Finally going to get a couple evenings in town, so trying to line up some company outside my normal field of play. Beginning to move to txt with these ladies for more detailed convos. Anyone have past interactions with them? Good? Bad? PPMs?

I'll follow up with anything I learn or pursue.

Wittybae.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-f53cab8aec4f

Nyla.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...3-028078e8703a

CuteCindy.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...b-de60de2dd73b

Cindy.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...a-0b59f1b244af

Jovian.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-110579b9679e

Love me tender.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...1-31d03fbd51fe

[Happtrav]

She would love to meet for a friendly dinner with a meeting fee of $500, just to make sure I am legit.

[Gca393]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...5-4ab01737307f

Is this the same Katie Baby that has been reviewed on here, quite a bit, going back at least a couple of years? It doesn't sound like it, from the posts I read, but not sure.

I talked to this one last year and she flaked on me twice in two days. She was up in Clayton, GA and now apparently in Gainesville.

I still kind of want her though, but she turned me off, with her past behavior, so thinking I should give it to a more deserving girl. I like those fat titties though.

The one I know is a slim brunette.

[Jman1234]

This one wants you to "send some love" to even have a conversation on the site with her. Yeah not today. Reported and blocked.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...0-71699935f26d

J.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...5-4ab01737307f

Is this the same Katie Baby that has been reviewed on here, quite a bit, going back at least a couple of years? It doesn't sound like it, from the posts I read, but not sure.

I talked to this one last year and she flaked on me twice in two days. She was up in Clayton, GA and now apparently in Gainesville.

I still kind of want her though, but she turned me off, with her past behavior, so thinking I should give it to a more deserving girl. I like those fat titties though.

[Peter Johnson]

I must've dropped the ball somewhere when talking to her because she wouldn't take 200 from me. Good to know she's fun even if she doesn't do a BJ. I just assume any girl not willing to suck dick is not going to be very fun, but there's an exception to every rule.

Not giving BJs is usually deal breaker for me too, but I suppose if they made up for it with CIP, then I perhaps wouldn't feel like I missed out on too much.

[Peter Johnson]

After you've spoken to a girl and got her moved to text or snap, ask for a verification pic. This can be something simple. I normally say something like "Thanks for giving me your (number / snap). There's a lot of scammers on the site, would you send me a pic real quick doing (easy pose of choice) so I know you're real. ".

Good tips, but I've never asked any of them for verification pics. I can usually tell if they are fake, after trading a few messages, although one actually did waste about an hour of my time, until I figured it out. But sounds like a good way to get some extra pics, and probably not much downside.

[MaxSteele]

Here's another one that I made it to facetime but for whatever reason I got ghosted and couldn't convert. I can confirm that she looks like her pics and has a job and a car which is definitely a bonus when playing this sugar baby game. Stays in the Stone Mountain side of town if I can remember correctly, seems cool and down to earth. If anyone can score, I would love to hear about it LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/efd2a...7-7afb8a4621bb

Do you remember when (month / year) you made a connection with her? Any pics for confirmation?

Do you remember when (month / year) you made a connection with her? Any pics for confirmation? I might be able to confirm on my end as well.

[GoneForGood97]

Thanks guys for the info and the Seeking tips!

I appreciate that you answered my newbie questions and gave me more information than I even asked for. I think I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

A few more tips to filter out scammers. If you see only one of these red flags, you can roll the dice (as long as you verify which I'll talk about later), but if you see multiple of these, don't waste your time on the profile:

1) Only 1-2 pics.

2) Pics look like a wannabe Instagram model, and none of the pics look like they are remotely in Atlanta.

3) Profile is less than a week old.

4) Wants to talk on Kik.

Certain "auto" red flags that you should just block and move on: they say "online only" or "I know my worth".

After you've spoken to a girl and got her moved to text or snap, ask for a verification pic. This can be something simple. I normally say something like "Thanks for giving me your (number / snap). There's a lot of scammers on the site, would you send me a pic real quick doing (easy pose of choice) so I know you're real. ".

If they whine about it too much or insist on getting money first, remind them you're not asking for a nude, just a quick verification pic. If they won't, block and move on. Some scammers have gotten wise to this, and will give you a reason they can't "Oh I can't take a pic at work" or "I'm already ready for bed and look bad. Can I send it to you tomorrow. " Now, sometimes that's true, so you can wait til tomorrow if you like, but scammers will sometimes hope you forget (or they'll send some nudes to distract you) by the next day, so the next day you should follow up with them at a different time of day just ask again "Hey, just wanted to check in and see if you could send me that pic doing (pose) so we can work out our arrangement. ".

The pose should NOT be something that's common on Instagram. Don't ask for them to flip you the bird or do a peace sign. If this is a scammer, they stole the pics off some random girls Instagram and there's a high chance they have a pic of them doing those common poses. Ask them to hold up an odd number of fingers. Some guys ask them to hold up a piece of paper with a certain word (like the guy's SA profile name) and the date. I tend to avoid that because sometimes people just won't have easy access to pen and paper.

Be careful accepting "snaps" that don't have your pose. You may think "Well snaps are always live, that's why it's snapchat" but scammers can use OVF editor or other tools to send old photos and make snap think they are live. Don't waste your time ever if someone sends you a pic with an OVF editor watermark on the pic somewhere.

[GoneForGood97]

She came and took care of me after another girl bailed at the last minute. She is thick and country, but got into it in bed and was not boring at all. If you want to bareback a 20 year old blonde with a phat ass for $$ not a bad choice.

I must've dropped the ball somewhere when talking to her because she wouldn't take 200 from me. Good to know she's fun even if she doesn't do a BJ. I just assume any girl not willing to suck dick is not going to be very fun, but there's an exception to every rule.

[CurtisJo]

I was once a newbie like you and unfortunately found this site long after I had already been active with SA. Luckily it was in the good old days of SA when some of the regularly reviewed girls were a little fresher. Sarbear, 19 yr old Brazilian girl that ended up facing at the pony, etc. I don't post much but hope I've provided some value in PMs over the years.

Best of luck and remember a 7 that makes you comfortable and is great at what she does beats a 9 dead fish with GPS!

Thanks guys for the info and the Seeking tips!

I appreciate that you answered my newbie questions and gave me more information than I even asked for. I think I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

[CigarsAndBeer]

Thanks guys for the info and the Seeking tips!

I appreciate that you answered my newbie questions and gave me more information than I even asked for. I think I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

[SoonerFan72]

Typical scammer, unable to verify pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...3-2e4d7abea943

[Peter Johnson]

I largely came to town to meet WittyBae, who was going to sleep over, cuddle, etc. Went silent the entire trip, later said she had issues with her son. Rescheduled for the next day, time came, crickets, said sorry I'm drunk.

Made plans for Kawaiikitty to come over. She indicated she's on the way. When 30 min late said sorry about traffic, then she's parking, then crickets. When I called her out said "sorry I love someone else I can't do this".

Great times.

Yes been there done that, many times. As we all know, most women are a bit messed up in the head, and these SA girls are a step beyond that. But of course they are crazy in some good ways, as well. But been flaked on and ghosted like this quite a few times, so again, I know how frustrating and demoralizing it can be.

To minimize the damage, I usually won't drive very far unless I have other fun plans in the same area, like going hiking, etc. I make them drive to me (and offer to put gas in their car), and then if they don't show up, I don't lose much time and $. And I never book the room until they meet me there. , and feel comfortable with proceeding Of course they could theoretically bail after that, but they want that $$, so that is probably rare and hasn't happened to me yet.

But the sting will go away in a short while and you can get out there and find one that makes up for all the bullsh*t that the others put you through.

[GoneForGood97]

I want to dip my toe in this scene since it seems many of you have had success. So I started creating a profile.

I want to keep a low profile on the site, but I assume I have to post a photo to have any luck on the site? I'm hesitant to do so.

And this site is pricy! Nearly $100 a month for premium? Is that required to get any attention on the site or to message the girls?

Thanks for any tips you can provide.

As another poster advised, you want a pic or 2, but you can find a lookalike pic or block your face if you're concerned about privacy.

Yes it's pricey. If you can wait till labor day they'll likely run a $80 special for 1 month.

A lot of guys (especially the guys who post about having little to no success on the site) treat this just like they would an escort site. They just message a girl something like "how much?" Or "200 for a BJ and fuck" etc etc. If you do that, you won't have much success, and the little success you do have will likely be with the semi-pros on the site.

Treat this like a dating site (unless you're one of those assholes who sends unsolicited dick pics on Tinder. In which case you're hopeless and should just stick to tryst and Eros escorts). Read the girls bios and ask a question or two about the things in it. Get to know them. It doesn't take much to separate yourself from the 100's of guys who just act like rude entitled ass hats. After a few "get to know you" questions, ask them if you can talk more on text or snapchat (oh and setup a fake / burner snapchat account). Once you've moved them to text or snap (and NEVER talk specific arrangement details like $ or specific acts on the site. Always leave that to discussions over text message or snap), ask what they are looking for from the site. Tell them you're looking for the same, and you would love to meet up with them. Ask them if they are comfortable hosting or if you'll need to get a hotel. Once you know that, ask them if they want to meet for coffee or a drink first, or if they want to immediately start the arrangement and meet up at the hotel / their place. If they want a coffee first, take them out on a coffee date, be nice and respectful, and after an hour or so ask them if they want to talk more somewhere private. Some will immediately agree to a hotel or go back to their place, some will hesitate. If they hesitate, clarify you mean you just wanted to sit in the car and talk about arrangement details.

While in the car (or any point prior where they agree they want to proceed with the arrangement) ask them what they are looking for in regards to the arrangement. Some will immediately give you a $ figure, some will play coy and give neutral generic answers. If they give you a $ amount that's in your budget, agree and let them know you're ready to start the arrangement if they're ready to go back to their place or hotel. If they are coy, say you will start things on a pay per meet (PPM) basis and offer them whatever amount you want to offer. I've found 300 if they host and 200 if I need to get a hotel to work fairly well in the city. If they are over an hour outside Atlanta, I usually do 150 if I need to get the hotel and 200 if they host (like most things, arrangements cost more in Atl). If they argue or say no, that's ok. Move to the next girl. If they accept, then get them in a bed and have a blast.

NEVER agree to pay $ for a non-intimate date. If a girl insists on getting paid $ upfront or getting paid for just the meet and greet, block and move to the next one. They only get sugar once they are giving sugar. Any girl who pretends not to know that is a scammer or not worth your time.

And just like with escorts, never pay for a deposit, or gas money in advance, or pay them for a room in advance. You'll get ghosted. Stick with cash only (they'll often whine and beg and plead for you to use Cashapp or Venmo, don't). When they ask for money in advance, or if you've seen them once already and they later hit you up for some help, just tell them you only deal in cash, and you're happy to help them, when are they available to meet up? Remember, only sugar for sugar.

Finally, NEVER agree to pay $ for a non-intimate date, and NEVER pay anything in advance. Yes, I'm saying it twice. It's that important.

I'll tell you if you're just polite and respectful the fish will literally just jump into the boat. That's not to say you won't get flaked on or have some bad experiences (just like in real online dating) but if you keep taking swings at the ball, you'll eventually hit it. Being polite and respectful will also get you better rates. There are girls on here that guys have reviewed and said they had to pay 400-500 to hit, and the girls had GPS, that I reached out to and had them riding my cock and begging to swallow me for 200 or 300; even had one who enjoyed our time together she would occasionally just text me to hook up for free because she was horny and she knew I'd make sure she had a good time. It's a buyers market. Have fun. But it's a lot of time / work / effort to sort the good from the bad. Stick to your budget, be willing to walk away from the girls that won't meet your budget expectations, and sharpen your negotation skills, and you can fuck a lot hotties who feel more like fucking a GF than an escort.