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  1. #1684
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    Posts: 1651

    He is a patsy

    Quote Originally Posted by AGoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    If you read further down in RedPill71's post, he answers the question of why. He basically said that I'm the type of guy who believes that sex is something to be appreciated by more than just the eyeballs.

    Some find stimulation in mental engagement and the emotional feel good of a relationship. This can be dangerous for John's because some providers are manipulative and will play the friendship role to get a John wrapped around their finger.
    For hookers. All it takes is one time to ask them to spend a minute with you unpaid and they find out the truth.

    So many guys are delusional when it comes to this, all it takes is a false compliment or two on their looks or size of their dicks and they think they have a special relationship. They don't need suckers telling them to raise their rates because if they possibly think they can get it than they will anyway. I don't care how nice and willing Daisy or any hooker is personality wise, if they are 10 years older and charging 50% more it's not going to fly with me.

  2. #1683
    Quote Originally Posted by AGoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    If you read further down in RedPill71's post, he answers the question of why. He basically said that I'm the type of guy who believes that sex is something to be appreciated by more than just the eyeballs.

    Some find stimulation in mental engagement and the emotional feel good of a relationship. This can be dangerous for John's because some providers are manipulative and will play the friendship role to get a John wrapped around their finger.
    That's fine, but the point is why tell HER that?

    HolyDiver.

  3. #1682
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLooking  [View Original Post]
    Why? I mean to each his own but what do you get out of telling her to raise prices? Frankly her price was in the sweet spot to get her a good stable of regulars. It's not like she was doing $60 quick visits. Frankly I've seen no shortage of sex workers burn bridges with regulars by raising prices because someone said they weren't charging enough or talked about how much more others charge. Again, to each his own but I mean unless you're her pimp, you get nothing out of talking about what she charges other guys.
    If you read further down in RedPill71's post, he answers the question of why. He basically said that I'm the type of guy who believes that sex is something to be appreciated by more than just the eyeballs.

    Some find stimulation in mental engagement and the emotional feel good of a relationship. This can be dangerous for John's because some providers are manipulative and will play the friendship role to get a John wrapped around their finger.

  4. #1681
    Quote Originally Posted by RedPill71  [View Original Post]

    If she did charge that much for the half-hour as opposed to the hour (which I my guess) then GOOD. I've lost count the # of times I told her she should charge more than she does.
    Why? I mean to each his own but what do you get out of telling her to raise prices? Frankly her price was in the sweet spot to get her a good stable of regulars. It's not like she was doing $60 quick visits. Frankly I've seen no shortage of sex workers burn bridges with regulars by raising prices because someone said they weren't charging enough or talked about how much more others charge. Again, to each his own but I mean unless you're her pimp, you get nothing out of talking about what she charges other guys.

  5. #1680

    Daisi

    Quote Originally Posted by RedPill71  [View Original Post]
    First off I didn't say you accused Daisi of seeing 12 per day. My bad for adding that onto the last sentence of the original post regarding your crusade against pimps.

    And for the record I applaud your campaign against pimps, which is not to be confused with your crusade against women raising their prices in response to market demands (aka acting like responsible business people).

    In post #18852 in particular and #18835 in the Escort Reports forum you attacked her in ways she didn't deserve. In both cases imposing your standards on the rest of us.

    If she did charge that much for the half-hour as opposed to the hour (which I my guess) then GOOD. I've lost count the # of times I told her she should charge more than she does.

    You have your standards and we are all acutely aware of them, but Daisi is one of the best I've seen in 6 years. And until your recent posts I've never heard anybody speak with such disrespect about her.

    Not once has she ever disappointed, and I've seen her well over 10 times.

    I also read her reviews on the other site, and going back YEARS there was never anything close to this level of disparaging about her.

    But then again I have different standards than you. As do many of us on this site. I'm the type of guy who watches the movie "pulp fiction" and nods in agreement when that scene comes on with Bruce Willis and his French GF talking about sex being something to be appreciated by more than just the eyeballs.

    If you want us to respect your standards, which I'm guessing that you do, then please give that same respect.

    Cheers.
    Daisi is one of the best! Wish she was able to do more morning appointments and if so would see her more often! Have never had a bad visit with her. Wish she would get Bobbi back to do some duos with her. Those were some memorable times!

  6. #1679
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1651

    Harsh

    Quote Originally Posted by EkafEman  [View Original Post]
    It is funny seeing people get so bent out of shape of getting scammed by ugly, useless hookers. Treat them for what they are worth and leave. Some of them are not even worth a penny.
    Unfortunately though it's true. I cannot believe the extent some go on here to defend them. These women are not our friends. I won't condone anyone mistreating them but I am not delusional in that they want only one thing from us and that's the most money they can possibly get. What the assholes that are telling them to raise their rates don't get is that it won't buy them exclusiveness to access them, sooner or later they will learn reality.

  7. #1678
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1651

    Re

    Quote Originally Posted by RedPill71  [View Original Post]
    First off I didn't say you accused Daisi of seeing 12 per day. My bad for adding that onto the last sentence of the original post regarding your crusade against pimps.

    And for the record I applaud your campaign against pimps, which is not to be confused with your crusade against women raising their prices in response to market demands (aka acting like responsible business people).

    In post #18852 in particular and #18835 in the Escort Reports forum you attacked her in ways she didn't deserve. In both cases imposing your standards on the rest of us.

    If she did charge that much for the half-hour as opposed to the hour (which I my guess) then GOOD. I've lost count the # of times I told her she should charge more than she does.

    You have your standards and we are all acutely aware of them, but Daisi is one of the best I've seen in 6 years. And until your recent posts I've never heard anybody speak with such disrespect about her.

    Not once has she ever disappointed, and I've seen her well over 10 times.

    I also read her reviews on the other site, and going back YEARS there was never anything close to this level of disparaging about her..
    Man you are way too much into the hooker scene. It was only when I took a long hiatus from this I realized what a sickness it was. You can come on here and act all White night but at the end of the day even the ones you think are your personal friends could care less about you. Personally I couldn't give a shit about what you think of my standards until you come on here making up b. S.

  8. #1677

    Hysterical

    It is funny seeing people get so bent out of shape of getting scammed by ugly, useless hookers. Treat them for what they are worth and leave. Some of them are not even worth a penny.

  9. #1676

    Hmmmmm

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  10. #1675

    Well then allow me to untwist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pubb69  [View Original Post]
    The ones that attack twist their argument with b. S. Show me where I said Daisy was seeing 12 guys a day? My reference was to certain ones doing 15 minute quick visits and that would apply to a lot of what's out there. Beyond that my avg appointments were always with the former high quality not necessarily gq material but always safe and dependable usually in the $3 range. I don't need to substantiate anything to anyone just go on the sites and see them.

    The majority of the low quality girls staying in sleazy hotels are doing exactly that. Please get your facts straight before you come on here and attack.
    First off I didn't say you accused Daisi of seeing 12 per day. My bad for adding that onto the last sentence of the original post regarding your crusade against pimps.

    And for the record I applaud your campaign against pimps, which is not to be confused with your crusade against women raising their prices in response to market demands (aka acting like responsible business people).

    In post #18852 in particular and #18835 in the Escort Reports forum you attacked her in ways she didn't deserve. In both cases imposing your standards on the rest of us.

    If she did charge that much for the half-hour as opposed to the hour (which I my guess) then GOOD. I've lost count the # of times I told her she should charge more than she does.

    You have your standards and we are all acutely aware of them, but Daisi is one of the best I've seen in 6 years. And until your recent posts I've never heard anybody speak with such disrespect about her.

    Not once has she ever disappointed, and I've seen her well over 10 times.

    I also read her reviews on the other site, and going back YEARS there was never anything close to this level of disparaging about her.

    But then again I have different standards than you. As do many of us on this site. I'm the type of guy who watches the movie "pulp fiction" and nods in agreement when that scene comes on with Bruce Willis and his French GF talking about sex being something to be appreciated by more than just the eyeballs.

    If you want us to respect your standards, which I'm guessing that you do, then please give that same respect.

    Cheers.

  11. #1674
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1651

    As usual

    Quote Originally Posted by RedPill71  [View Original Post]
    You can substantiate those daily numbers you report here, when your recent posting record (over a period of multiple years now) leaves us all the impression that you aren't paying to see these kinds of girls.

    In fact you leave us all the impression that you won't see a girl unless she is Maxim / GQ cover material, drug free, and willing to charge $60 for the hour.

    Any girl that is seeing 12 guys a day should be pretty easy to identify, as a girl would have to be whacked out on drugs to do something like that.

    That's fine I guess if you want to disparage this kind of provider (personally, I feel sorry for her). But when you start attacking girls like Daisi then I'm starting to think that you have lost all desire to aim before you fire.
    The ones that attack twist their argument with b. S. Show me where I said Daisy was seeing 12 guys a day? My reference was to certain ones doing 15 minute quick visits and that would apply to a lot of what's out there. Beyond that my avg appointments were always with the former high quality not necessarily gq material but always safe and dependable usually in the $3 range. I don't need to substantiate anything to anyone just go on the sites and see them.

    The majority of the low quality girls staying in sleazy hotels are doing exactly that. Please get your facts straight before you come on here and attack.

  12. #1673

    I'm curious as to how.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pubb69  [View Original Post]
    Ok Captain white Knight. When a woman is doing 12 guys a day and sometimes unprotected what exactly would you call it? Pricing has never been an issue with me as long as the appointment went as advertised and I never once did a "qv" instead all my appointments were hour long and never once did I mistreat anyone. Get over yourself and try dating real women.
    You can substantiate those daily numbers you report here, when your recent posting record (over a period of multiple years now) leaves us all the impression that you aren't paying to see these kinds of girls.

    In fact you leave us all the impression that you won't see a girl unless she is Maxim / GQ cover material, drug free, and willing to charge $60 for the hour.

    Any girl that is seeing 12 guys a day should be pretty easy to identify, as a girl would have to be whacked out on drugs to do something like that.

    That's fine I guess if you want to disparage this kind of provider (personally, I feel sorry for her). But when you start attacking girls like Daisi then I'm starting to think that you have lost all desire to aim before you fire.

  13. #1672
    Administrator


    Posts: 5116

    If it can in anyway be political

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton0401  [View Original Post]
    Some factors that figure in to the changes in the business and rates over time leading to no one "needing" $ desperately:

    1- Government paying for more necessities for "single" moms with kids, including housing, food, utilities, phones and more. Once they qualify for one service, they usually qualify for the rest.

    2- Increasing earned income credit for low income households with kid (s). When your basics are covered and you get cash money on top of it (is it now 5 k per kid? No need to take 60 or 80 for anything. I read a study that when you add everything up and then gross up the dollars for taxes, it is like they make $60 k plus a year.

    3- Charging more for outcalls and requiring transportation both ways is ridiculous. Outcalls are way cheaper than incalls for a provider.

    I'm sure there are others, but this is a start. Feel free to add your thoughts.
    And in these days if it has ANYTHING to do with government, even just typing the words "Trump" or "Biden" "Republican" or "Democrat" then it needs to be on the stupid shit thread. This isn't a comment on what you wrote, it's reasonable and doesn't even take a side but it will most likely kick up a bunch of stupid shit.

    A2

  14. #1671

    Changes over time

    Some factors that figure in to the changes in the business and rates over time leading to no one "needing" $ desperately:

    1- Government paying for more necessities for "single" moms with kids, including housing, food, utilities, phones and more. Once they qualify for one service, they usually qualify for the rest.

    2- Increasing earned income credit for low income households with kid (s). When your basics are covered and you get cash money on top of it (is it now 5 k per kid? No need to take 60 or 80 for anything. I read a study that when you add everything up and then gross up the dollars for taxes, it is like they make $60 k plus a year.

    3- Charging more for outcalls and requiring transportation both ways is ridiculous. Outcalls are way cheaper than incalls for a provider.

    I'm sure there are others, but this is a start. Feel free to add your thoughts.

  15. #1670
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1651

    I would bet

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabor  [View Original Post]
    Some hooker took your lunch money and you can't get over it.
    Suckers like yourself got taken for more than lunch money.

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