Stupid Shit In San Diego

[MaximusKahn]

I can't speak for others but I seem to be attracted to, and find, the spas and women who don't want me to tell our secrets. I'm very much into UTR action.

I'm also anonymous at the spas and on this site, and have never been asked to post.

IMHO, any "report" or post that is a first hand experience and genuine I can appreciate.

It is easy to suspect any report that is grossly over the top to be a shill. For that matter any report that is leaning towards warning others about something is equally suspicious. A monger can give an honest poor report with out making it sound like a warning.

We can all apply the "YMWV" lenses to a report we read and make our own judgment as to it's validity.

Many Mongers are known by the girls by name and by their handle here, thus also making me suspicious of their motives and intent. But even if a monger knows the girls, spa owners, mms, they can still give a honest positive report that is useful. So long as it is first hand knowledge by their own experience.

One style of report that always makes me laugh are the guys who tell us where where they "plan" to go, or praise the places they have to check out, and never follow up. Or the ones who toss out a lot of names and say any one will make you happy without giving personal details of their own experiences with them. These guys are clearly shilling for a thrilling in some way.

They also tend to be the piggy back posters, who reinforce what other post. Or parrot back what others have said adding nothing new.

If someone knows the girls personally, reports positively and gets a little back, I'm okay with that so long as the report is honest.

And so long as they don't keep flooding the site with repeats, piggy back, or parrot posts.

[Ryan1979]

The thing with the dude and his reviews is once you have explored one or two of what he had shilled you have calibrated your threshold. For me if the dude shilled it. It was likely no good. Saved me a lot of time.

I think you have forgotten that "the dude" was a big fan of NLBC which was no doubt one of the premier FS spots after some of the VIP personnel acquired it. The same could be said for VIP Spring Valley when this group initially acquired that location even though though it's facilities were lacking.

I have yet to see a valid explanation for why NLBC closed, but hopefully this group will open another location in San Diego as they seem to have a knack for finding some of the best talent San Diego has ever seen. Also, has anyone else noticed how some of the other spas had to step up their game to be competitive?

Competition breeds excellence.

[Space Pet]

Personally I don't mind reading the shills because I unapologetically support these working girls and I know how to walk away. If a monger gets a pass on the house fee for a favorable report, that's cool, just like getting discounts or freebies from any business that appreciates a good report on Yelp, Google, etcetera,.

The thing with the dude and his reviews is once you have explored one or two of what he had shilled you have calibrated your threshold. For me if the dude shilled it. It was likely no good. Saved me a lot of time.

[Ryan1979]

Concur. I would like to further add that reposting ads and reiterating the obvious in an attempt to obtain free service, kickback, or just plain attempt to get the providers to see you outside of the hobby.

Personally I don't mind reading the shills because I unapologetically support these working girls and I know how to walk away. If a monger gets a pass on the house fee for a favorable report, that's cool, just like getting discounts or freebies from any business that appreciates a good report on Yelp, Google, etcetera, but. . .

It's the leaches that expect or demand a freebie for writing a shill report that chaps my ass. Sometimes threatening to do the opposite, write a bad report or report to the police if not compensated in some way.

It's unfortunate that some spas have literally succumbed to paying some mongers for reports. When I'm offered this from a spa, I'm quick to politely refuse but realize I'm not the only one that's been made this offer. Easy for me to tell who's who on the forums. Even some well respected members have become corrupted, but lately many reports really help with my bowel movements when I'm on the can. My favorite time to catch up on this forum. LOL!

Reading some of these mongers ass fucking each other reminds me of the first time I saw Brokeback Mountain. The homo scenes were nauseating to watch, but I just had to know what was happening.

Oh well, if the spas feel it's worth it, then more power to them, but I have no respect for the mongers that are basically taking advantage of these spas and taking credibility away from the forum. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't effect me so que sara sara, but I do feel a bit sorry for the newbies and the gullible. That's why I always preach the number one rule. . .

No matter what you've read, if you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away.

This can be said for any service related business. My eyes always roll when I read a report that starts with something like "I should've walked away, but. . ." proceeded by a bad report. Trust your instincts especially at AMPs.

The San Diego area is the Macau for AMPs. If your not lucky at one AMP, you've got hundreds of others to go to. Also know that your luck is always changing at some spas so take a break from a spa, but never cross them off your list. Personally, the hunt is just as much fun as the kill and I always go back to an old hunting ground as the AMP scene is as dynamic as life itself.

I'm more concerned about the mongers, clones, whatever that diss and try to extort these spas by threatening to get them busted, pretending to be police and other tactics that cause distress to these spas, girls and generally fuck up the service for the good mongers that appreciate these working girls.

I'd really like to see more mongers calling out these types of assholes more so than each other. With some mongers claiming to be good friends with some spas and girls they must hear about these ass fucks and be able to obtain videos and photos to share and warn other spas and girls. Trust me, the AMP network is tight and just sharing with a girl or two has an exponential effect.

If you want to really be appreciated by these spas and girls, help protect them from these assholes.

And to those worried about the shills, just learn how to walk away and it's all good.

[Sir Bishop]

Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.

I was told to stop "arguing" with those clones or I would be moderated. And that was the first month one of the clones appeared on the board. First question that hit me when I saw the notice of the removal, "how do you know which clone he is"? What I do know about websites is this. Every time you visit a site, your IP address, Device Name, User name, etc are captured in a log. What the public can't see in a post is the IP Address of the poster. Doesn't take much to gather data on the IP Address and associate it with a User then check the email address of that user. That's all part of the backend of this system. Easy to track people.

Now that I wake up every morning to bacon and can't but wonder of these admins are going to start researching and see if these new clones go back to a dude. Geolocation will certainly help them. No, this is not over by a long shot.

[RolfTorren]

Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.

That's great and all, but this former member was divisive as hell. Anytime anyone made an honest negative remark about the girls he represented, he would lash out at them. And not only that, they used to post negative reviews here and on TER until they got called out for it. And then he would create mediocre but slightly positive reviews for girls from non-SDAG or Cris's Crap group to make it seem like he was impartial. He would always make glowing review for girls that were CLEARLY not good and likely not getting enough bookings. If you can't understand that person's intentions now, then you're very naive.

This behavior is unacceptable. And the number of alternate accounts posting reviews and shilling the original ad is overwhelming. I am confident there are still several accounts that are tied to them simply based on the content. No one else is posting any kind of crap in favor of any the masseuses at Cris's group, because they are overpriced and not good to look at.

[CityboysUp]

Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.

That's great and all, but this former member was divisive as hell. Anytime anyone made an honest negative remark about the girls he represented, he would lash out at them. And not only that, they used to post negative reviews here and on TER until they got called out for it. And then he would create mediocre but slightly positive reviews for girls from non-SDAG or Cris's Crap group to make it seem like he was impartial. He would always make glowing review for girls that were CLEARLY not good and likely not getting enough bookings. If you can't understand that person's intentions now, then you're very naive.

This behavior is unacceptable. And the number of alternate accounts posting reviews and shilling the original ad is overwhelming. I am confident there are still several accounts that are tied to them simply based on the content. No one else is posting any kind of crap in favor of any the masseuses at Cris's group, because they are overpriced and not good to look at.

[EH09M3]

Concur. I would like to further add that reposting ads and reiterating the obvious in an attempt to obtain free service, kickback, or just plain attempt to get the providers to see you outside of the hobby.

I think the purpose of this forum is to provide accurate information and to be helpful to fellow mongers. It is not helpful when someone is being paid (paid in free service, or kickback or whatever) to post false reports in an attempt to increase business to a specific girl or group. Or, to do the opposite, and talk shit about a girl / organization in an attempt to hurt their business.

[Trusty Hairlip]

Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.

I think the purpose of this forum is to provide accurate information and to be helpful to fellow mongers. It is not helpful when someone is being paid (paid in free service, or kickback or whatever) to post false reports in an attempt to increase business to a specific girl or group. Or, to do the opposite, and talk shit about a girl / organization in an attempt to hurt their business.

[Tijuaniko]

Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.

[SDJaziKing]

Don't you feel foolish now after trying to convince a popular working girl, with what I'm told was a very detailed analysis, that I was DelMar Surfdog. LOL!

As you're aware, she never believed you in the first place, but I don't blame you. She is a siren, but really? Don't worry buddy, I was looking out for you and told her it was probably petty jealousy that motivated your actions. A forgivable offense in this business so you can still go see her.

While some may claim to be "best friends" with some of these working girls, I wouldn't say that as that would make any reference to them biased or simply my own wishful thinking. However, developing a kinship with these working ladies is something I value more than busting a nut. There are plenty of fish in the sea, but when you find a mermaid that values you as much as you value them, you treasure it like your own flesh and blood. That bond supersedes any "good customer" or "old customer" relationship.

Let's please get back to enjoying and supporting these working girls without the drama.

I'm still rather shocked to hear there's whole bunch of shit drama happening in the back. Hobbying doesn't need to be transactional only but jeez, easy guys LOL.

[Ryan1979]

Don't you feel foolish now after trying to convince a popular working girl, with what I'm told was a very detailed analysis, that I was DelMar Surfdog. LOL!

As you're aware, she never believed you in the first place, but I don't blame you. She is a siren, but really? Don't worry buddy, I was looking out for you and told her it was probably petty jealousy that motivated your actions. A forgivable offense in this business so you can still go see her.

While some may claim to be "best friends" with some of these working girls, I wouldn't say that as that would make any reference to them biased or simply my own wishful thinking. However, developing a kinship with these working ladies is something I value more than busting a nut. There are plenty of fish in the sea, but when you find a mermaid that values you as much as you value them, you treasure it like your own flesh and blood. That bond supersedes any "good customer" or "old customer" relationship.

Let's please get back to enjoying and supporting these working girls without the drama.

Deleted by Admin

Greetings Everyone,

DelMar Surfdog posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.

Thanks,

Jackson

Actually he didn't quite he doxxed a guy but doxxing somebody is like quitting.

I also banned your real user "The DudeInSd" and am going to make it a point to ban all new users you create.

A2

[Ryan1979]

I'm not sure if over-hyping a spot would directly result in that spot getting shut down; However, I tend to avoid certain spots that are concurrent in monger reports. In all my travels, I've noticed that Mongers tend to follow each other--That includes the lurkers as well as the avid report writers. I'm not into fist-bumping the last guy coming out (take that as you will) and the next guy arriving. I prefer low-volume.

I don't like crowded restaurants, waiting for a table, distracted servers, etc. . . Finding hidden treasures and a businesses slow times is my current joy with this hobby.

Concerning over-hyped places getting shut down more so than others? I think San Diego's spa history can speak to that. Many spas that are rarely reported or have zero reports have been shutdown for various reasons. The spas mentioned the most get the most attention when something happens because they were so popular, but how many times have we read about a spa being closed that we've never been to? Short memories will have to look at this forum pre-pandemic, but pay attention to future closures from little known spas.

BTW, Rafela was recently closed and now reopened under new ownership. Same name and same services in case anyone is wondering. You may be pleasantly surprised with some of the ladies you'll see there.

[SDJaziKing]

Following the recommendations of other mongers (reviews) are for entertainment purposes only. Just like some men, I don't want sloppy seconds and enjoy that a provider cleans herself afterwards (or do they?) I prefer to get the 1st appt in the morning, but sometimes the horniness happens and I just walk in, get'er done, and I'm out happy.

In terms of service, have they really served that many men or the amount of sex they've had?

In terms of McD's, it's burgers, not customers. So if I saw Mina, multiple times, was that 1 time, or shall I record multiple times?

To be honest, sometimes DFKing with a provider who is well-reviewed for CIM makes you double think about the action. But then, as long as I don't taste someone else's cum, shit I'm golden.

[Sir Bishop]

You can really tell who's a germaphobe when you get to know a provider a little, but some are sloppier than others. I know girls who can watch you take a shower or shower with you and they'll still make you gargle listerine and they'll spray down your hands dick balls and asshole with disinfectant spray.
Monica at 108 was amazing because she was always fresh out of the shower. She'd try to shower after every monger. Love that about her.
But, I will admit. I have sent a provider off to the next guy with a pussy full of cum. Seen her walk right into his room. Hope he did not dine at the why that day LOL.

One leaves, one comes, sloppy seconds. A story as old as sex and I'm sure the ladies have their ideas about it as well. Several ladies I've seen over the years were completely puzzled over why a guy, knowing she was just jizzed and had another guys lubricants inside her, even wanted to DATY or go bare! They even laughed at the guys that came second and dined on them. But $$ spoke louder than hygiene and they hurried one out while another one was on the way up. To the ladies I just spoke of. Well they thought their hygiene was just fine because they "wiped with baby wipes".

Unless you are in a 100% monogomous relationship, there is no guarantee of hygiene. The Asian houses / AMPs at least give you the impression of being clean with the shower / blue toast. Some Indies will also insist you shower, alone. I've seen both Asians and Indie girls go to the shower after the session, squat in the shower and clean. Bottom line to this rant? Even if you are first you may not be "first"! What about that BF she has sex with in the morning before YOU see her? Yes, that happens also.