Asian Apartment Girls

[Dazhiba]

Charlies is right about the risks and minimizing them but there is more to the story. After being a long time Chicago resident I now spend more time in Ohio but return often and travel a lot on business.

Ohio as a state is very different than the city of Chicago. The Ohio AG and Gov are both much more conservative and think they have some moral high ground when it comes to things like prostitution and abortion. The political climate is very different. That said, There is always a risk if you are anywhere that it's technically illegal to pay for such services. I have friends who were "busted" in Chicago and initially charged with solicitation. In one case they paid a fine and that was it. In another my friend got an attorney right away and paid court costs without ever having it show up on his record. This is not a felony offense, but mongers may be subjected to public embarrassment. So each person must decide for themselves, knowing that there are always going to be some kinds of risks.

Stay safe.

So, you don't believe the part of the story where the girls told me that the cops never took their phones. Fine, let's continue the discussion then as you keep emphasizing on the sim dump. Let's say indeed they did a sim dump on those 3 girls' phones. So what. When you went to RL the last time, who did you contact. The booker, not the girls themselves. And if you were to go to RL again, who are you going to contact. The booker, not the new girls. Those 3 girls that were taken in are not at RL anymore. The one US RL booker does not live there. She wasn't even there at the time of the bust. This is not like Ohio spas where the girls stay there long term or where the house phone is there.

[OF Charlie]

Charlie this is how the Ohio Bust went down over and over for a 6 month time.

Frame the spas and apartments in Ohio kept getting busted then after the local police gave.

Everything to the Feds the indicted 161 mongers and girls. This is just the beginning of what is about to happen here. The city isn't wasting tax payers $$ but rounding up the girls and not doing nothing. They lock in their sims so any messages after the bust they will see trust me on this one. But this is just the beginning each apartment will get busted 1-2 more times I'm sure the police also while no one was there out their own surveillance equipment inside the location like they did in Ohio. I love the apartments myself but they got to change locations because they are all going to get another visit I assure you on this from seeing what went down in Ohio.

So, you don't believe the part of the story where the girls told me that the cops never took their phones. Fine, let's continue the discussion then as you keep emphasizing on the sim dump. Let's say indeed they did a sim dump on those 3 girls' phones. So what. When you went to RL the last time, who did you contact. The booker, not the girls themselves. And if you were to go to RL again, who are you going to contact. The booker, not the new girls. Those 3 girls that were taken in are not at RL anymore. The one US RL booker does not live there. She wasn't even there at the time of the bust. This is not like Ohio spas where the girls stay there long term or where the house phone is there.

As for matching up license plate, again this is not like Ohio. When I go to RL, I always park 3 blocks aways on a side street that is across the bridge. Are you saying the feds have camera there as well? What about someone who takes the CTA Orange line to get to RL. The feds is going to watch every single camera on CTA until he gets off the CTA? And even if they do that, are there cameras available from where he gets off at a CTA station until he gets home? Sure there are guys who park right in front or in the back of RL like those Ohio guys, but there are also guys like me who park blocks away or take the CTA.

I am not saying there is no heat on them. If people can't take the heat, then stay away. But people also need to think logically. After months of surveillance, they couldn't wait a few more minutes until a couple of mongers were inside first before they do the bust? Sure, they might get busted again. So what. They still won't catch the booker. Doing another sim dump on new girls also doesn't matter because those girls will be gone and you are not booking sessions directly with the girls to begin with anyway.

If you use a burner and park blocks away, your risk is minimized. Sure you might be unlucky and happen to be inside at the time of a bust, but that risk has always been there. Like I said, if you can't take the heat, just don't go. Chinese apartment is not for everyone.

[Trader1973]

I know a lot. Just didn't want to say anything since some of you think I am just a shill. But since you asked, I guess I will share what I know. I am including some screenshots of my text exchange with one of the girls. Whether you want to believe me or not, I could really care less.

I will attempt to address some of your questions. A few of your questions, I don't know the answers as I didn't ask. This is what got relayed to me by the room 1 girl (the girl who was detained the longest). She went to work at a spa for a few days and is at hkpd now. I found out which spa she was working at and went to have a talk with her.

The bust happened on 6/23, around lunchtime. It was an undercover bust. The undercover cop went into room 1. Asked the girl some questions and paid the money. Then he told her that he got a text from his wife and needed to go outside to make a phone call. When he went to go outside, that is when he held the door open and the other cops came in. Based on this, I am guessing they didn't have a warrant. Just a speculation on my part though. When the door guy saw on the video that they were coming in, he went to grab the money and tried to run out from the back but there were cops staking out there. I think room 1 girl told me there were about 7 or 8 cops in total. There were no other mongers inside at the time of bust. The girls were then allowed to get dressed and gathered their stuffs and went to the police station.

Charlie this is how the Ohio Bust went down over and over for a 6 month time.

Frame the spas and apartments in Ohio kept getting busted then after the local police gave.

Everything to the Feds the indicted 161 mongers and girls. This is just the beginning of what is about to happen here. The city isn't wasting tax payers $$ but rounding up the girls and not doing nothing. They lock in their sims so any messages after the bust they will see trust me on this one. But this is just the beginning each apartment will get busted 1-2 more times I'm sure the police also while no one was there out their own surveillance equipment inside the location like they did in Ohio. I love the apartments myself but they got to change locations because they are all going to get another visit I assure you on this from seeing what went down in Ohio.

[ZckBrc]

At this point, we don't know if there are cameras inside or not. But even without inside cameras, if they are using undercover officers, that is scary. If you had been in room 2 when the undercover was in room 1, what would have stopped him (or his friends) from walking into room 2 and catching you in the act? If I recall correctly, RL does not have locks on the girls doors (probably for the safety of the girls in case a monger gets abusive). (If they do have locks, they dont use them on a regular basis.) They need to install locks immediately and use them with every client. (The door guy can have a key if he needs to get in.) The lock will at least give the monger and the girl a chance to get the condom off (and to hide the condom) and to make it look like a regular massage. They also need to empty garbage cans after every client, because you don't want the undercover walking in and seeing a trashcan full of condoms.

Didn't something similar happen in Rockford with Chantilly Lace?

[Need It Bad]

I have a question regarding something that could possibly happen at a massage parlor if it were to be raided. What if an undercover officer found out they offer sexual things in addition to legitimate massages. In addition, they check security cameras a call logs. They find your phone number and see your car plates and see you going in an out like that guy said happened at some place in Ohio. With no inside cameras how could they prove you were there for anything more than just a massage? After all some people do go there for only a massage. Seems like they would have a hard time proving anything illegal.

At this point, we don't know if there are cameras inside or not. But even without inside cameras, if they are using undercover officers, that is scary. If you had been in room 2 when the undercover was in room 1, what would have stopped him (or his friends) from walking into room 2 and catching you in the act? If I recall correctly, RL does not have locks on the girls doors (probably for the safety of the girls in case a monger gets abusive). (If they do have locks, they don’t use them on a regular basis.) They need to install locks immediately and use them with every client. (The door guy can have a key if he needs to get in.) The lock will at least give the monger and the girl a chance to get the condom off (and to hide the condom) and to make it look like a regular massage. They also need to empty garbage cans after every client, because you don't want the undercover walking in and seeing a trashcan full of condoms.

[HornyMF]

I have a question regarding something that could possibly happen at a massage parlor if it were to be raided. What if an undercover officer found out they offer sexual things in addition to legitimate massages. In addition, they check security cameras a call logs. They find your phone number and see your car plates and see you going in an out like that guy said happened at some place in Ohio. With no inside cameras how could they prove you were there for anything more than just a massage? After all some people do go there for only a massage. Seems like they would have a hard time proving anything illegal.

[TBone777]

I know a lot. Just didn't want to say anything since some of you think I am just a shill. But since you asked, I guess I will share what I know. I am including some screenshots of my text exchange with one of the girls. Whether you want to believe me or not, I could really care less.

I will attempt to address some of your questions. A few of your questions, I don't know the answers as I didn't ask. This is what got relayed to me by the room 1 girl (the girl who was detained the longest). She went to work at a spa for a few days and is at hkpd now. I found out which spa she was working at and went to have a talk with her.

The bust happened on 6/23, around lunchtime. It was an undercover bust. The undercover cop went into room 1. Asked the girl some questions and paid the money. Then he told her that he got a text from his wife and needed to go outside to make a phone call. When he went to go outside, that is when he held the door open and the other cops came in. Based on this, I am guessing they didn't have a warrant. Just a speculation on my part though. When the door guy saw on the video that they were coming in, he went to grab the money and tried to run out from the back but there were cops staking out there. I think room 1 girl told me there were about 7 or 8 cops in total. There were no other mongers inside at the time of bust. The girls were then allowed to get dressed and gathered their stuffs and went to the police station. Based on what she said, I don't think they were there long. But I don't know if the cops stayed there after the bust or not. The door guy and the girls would not have known that since they were transported to the police station already.

The cops were mostly interested in knowing whether they are being trafficked or not. The cops did not search their luggages or phones. The girls even got to keep all their money. And the cops even paid for 2 nights of hotel for room 2 and room 3 girls. Room 1 girl's friend happened to be working here in Chicago at a spa, so when she was let go she went to the spa and ended up working there until the end of the month and moved to hkpd on 7/1. Room 1 girl was detained longer because she was the one the undercover cop had the conversation with. As you can see from the text exchange, the girls were not finger printed and had no charges. This includes room 1 girl.

That is all I know. Again, whether you choose to believe this story or not, it's up to you. Just relaying what I was told.

I believe in Charlie. He is telling you the truth!

[OF Charlie]

Charlie, you know the RL door guy. You know the girls who were there at the time of the bust. You know the booker. I think you might know the owner. So what have they told you? Were the police at both the front and side doors? How long were the police banging on the doors? (The police did not break the door down, so I assume there was enough time for everyone to get dressed and be presentable.) How many cops were present at the bust? Did they have a warrant? How many mongers were present at the time of the bust? Did the police just tell the mongers to leave, or did they question the mongers? Did the police search the premises? Did they watch the video from the security camera? Did they take anything? How long were the police inside? Were they there long enough to plant cameras (as happened in the Robert Kraft situation)? Why did they keep one of the girls at the police station longer? Please share whatever you can. You are our inside man.

I know a lot. Just didn't want to say anything since some of you think I am just a shill. But since you asked, I guess I will share what I know. I am including some screenshots of my text exchange with one of the girls. Whether you want to believe me or not, I could really care less.

I will attempt to address some of your questions. A few of your questions, I don't know the answers as I didn't ask. This is what got relayed to me by the room 1 girl (the girl who was detained the longest). She went to work at a spa for a few days and is at hkpd now. I found out which spa she was working at and went to have a talk with her.

The bust happened on 6/23, around lunchtime. It was an undercover bust. The undercover cop went into room 1. Asked the girl some questions and paid the money. Then he told her that he got a text from his wife and needed to go outside to make a phone call. When he went to go outside, that is when he held the door open and the other cops came in. Based on this, I am guessing they didn't have a warrant. Just a speculation on my part though. When the door guy saw on the video that they were coming in, he went to grab the money and tried to run out from the back but there were cops staking out there. I think room 1 girl told me there were about 7 or 8 cops in total. There were no other mongers inside at the time of bust. The girls were then allowed to get dressed and gathered their stuffs and went to the police station. Based on what she said, I don't think they were there long. But I don't know if the cops stayed there after the bust or not. The door guy and the girls would not have known that since they were transported to the police station already.

The cops were mostly interested in knowing whether they are being trafficked or not. The cops did not search their luggages or phones. The girls even got to keep all their money. And the cops even paid for 2 nights of hotel for room 2 and room 3 girls. Room 1 girl's friend happened to be working here in Chicago at a spa, so when she was let go she went to the spa and ended up working there until the end of the month and moved to hkpd on 7/1. Room 1 girl was detained longer because she was the one the undercover cop had the conversation with. As you can see from the text exchange, the girls were not finger printed and had no charges. This includes room 1 girl.

That is all I know. Again, whether you choose to believe this story or not, it's up to you. Just relaying what I was told.

[Need It Bad]

Something big already happened. RL, the biggest and probably the most famous apartment got busted. What is bigger than that? They reopened a couple of days later with the same door guy, no less. I drove by a couple of days ago and saw a monger leaving from the front door.

They use outsourced booking agents who are based out of China. There is one US booker, but she stays at a different location. The actual phones were never confiscated. The door guy is not the booker and doesn't have your number. He asks for the last 4 digits of your number when you show up because they need to know which booking agent gets the commission. As for spam texts, I get them too. That is how they generate business.

Just do what feels right to you. If you can't take the heat, stay away. But just wanted to explain how apartment works and why they can just reopen like that. The actual booker and owner are never there.

Charlie, you know the RL door guy. You know the girls who were there at the time of the bust. You know the booker. I think you might know the owner. So what have they told you? Were the police at both the front and side doors? How long were the police banging on the doors? (The police did not break the door down, so I assume there was enough time for everyone to get dressed and be presentable.) How many cops were present at the bust? Did they have a warrant? How many mongers were present at the time of the bust? Did the police just tell the mongers to leave, or did they question the mongers? Did the police search the premises? Did they watch the video from the security camera? Did they take anything? How long were the police inside? Were they there long enough to plant cameras (as happened in the Robert Kraft situation)? Why did they keep one of the girls at the police station longer? Please share whatever you can. You are our inside man.

[OF Charlie]

You have a point. The single monger IN THAT CASE was okay. But his point is that something big will go down sooner or later. Thanks for the warning.

Something big already happened. RL, the biggest and probably the most famous apartment got busted. What is bigger than that? They reopened a couple of days later with the same door guy, no less. I drove by a couple of days ago and saw a monger leaving from the front door.

They use outsourced booking agents who are based out of China. There is one US booker, but she stays at a different location. The actual phones were never confiscated. The door guy is not the booker and doesn't have your number. He asks for the last 4 digits of your number when you show up because they need to know which booking agent gets the commission. As for spam texts, I get them too. That is how they generate business.

Just do what feels right to you. If you can't take the heat, stay away. But just wanted to explain how apartment works and why they can just reopen like that. The actual booker and owner are never there.

[MwmChicago]

So is this LE crap just happening in the city? I thought I saw there was a bust in Naperville too. Place I go in DG has another in Naperville, so feeling like I want to avoid until sh! T settles down.

Good god, this is scary. I used to monger for SW's or many years but largely stopped after getting popped a second time about 20-23 years ago. May have been out 4 or 5 times since and not in over 10 years. Not a really big deal in Chicago, unless you're married. Ex wife found out second time which nudged the divorce along a couple years later. No regrets there. Had a couple married FWB's I met off Craigslist for a good 6 years followed by several on call cock suckers I also met off of CL who were good and cheap. Then another hot young red head FWB I met off of Doublelist, but have only seen her 3 times in the last 2 years. Been doing the Asian apt in Downers for a while now. It's ok, occasionally very good. It's reasonable and very clean and I like the variety.

So my question is. "Should we be concerned about suburban Asian Apts"? I own a a fairly visible business in town, lived here for ages, used to coach tons of sports game for two now grown kids and ex wife is in a vey visible long term position. Feel like I have a lot more to lose if my name pops up in the local paper.

[Illinois Guy 7]

Even if they are feds you seriously think they would jeopardize a federal investigation to talk to a single monger. A little paranoia is good but come on.

You have a point. The single monger IN THAT CASE was okay. But his point is that something big will go down sooner or later. Thanks for the warning.

[Fit312]

Well, it was a marked car so I don't think questioning mongers as they walk out is really tipping their hand too much more.

This is like being back in high school where burnouts would come up with elaborate strategies for avoiding arrest when departing a dealer's house who was supposedly being watched.

[Jayp80]

Even if they are feds you seriously think they would jeopardize a federal investigation to talk to a single monger. A little paranoia is good but come on.

Well, it was a marked car so I don't think questioning mongers as they walk out is really tipping their hand too much more.

[FuckIt216]

Even if they are feds you seriously think they would jeopardize a federal investigation to talk to a single monger. A little paranoia is good but come on.

Be dumb ass if you want. This is how the people in Ohio got busted off video cameras and plate numbers but be dumb and get yourself caught up any wise person can see what is going on here but I'm out your folks are on your own.