Asian Apartment Girls

**Fit312** · 07-01-22 13:57

https://www.redlanternchicago.com/

**Zagal** · 07-01-22 13:49

Originally Posted by FuckIt216 [View Original Post]

Mongers.

I have 3 friends who got busted in this see article. They were just normal mongers like us making visits to apartments / AMPs / hotels there were no trafficked girls or minors as stated in the article. My one good friend told me for months they kept busting these places and never arrested a single monger which seemed odd but they would raid the place when they knew no one was there but the girls and house booker. Here is where it gets scary for us.

They bring the girls in to the police station ask them if they are trafficked or there at their own will. They then take the house guys phone and girls phone to do a sim dump (this is what they did in Ohio) the next day the booker will send out a mass text which is actually down by the police sex crimes unit and when you reply to the text they start their investigation on you. This is 100% exactly what happened to my 3 friends in Ohio. One friend told me spot he went to got busted twice and literally next day there were opened again and same thing with odd text out of no where asking if they wanted to make appointment- then 9 months later his gets a certified letter which was an indictment. What's even more scary is each one used WeChat or burners. So at the time they had no clue how they would be found but turns out when their lawyers requested discovery it was noted the cameras these locations use to protect their business were actually used to identify mongers. Parking out front, parking in back and there were actually identified by plate numbers.

I'm sure a lot of you remember the Spring Grove spa that got shut down a few years ago. I went for a visit and literally the next day they got shut down. Then I got a letter in the mail from that town saying they have identified my car and if I knew of any trafficking and to report it. It did not directly accuse me of anything but just stated that they knew I visited there. I never replied back and I thankfully never got a follow up after that from them. That letter was the bait and I didn't take it! So if RL, SS or any of these places send me a text asking if I want to stop by, or sends pics of new girls, I will simply not reply!

**FuckIt216** · 07-01-22 13:15

Mongers.

I have 3 friends who got busted in this see article. They were just normal mongers like us making visits to apartments / AMPs / hotels there were no trafficked girls or minors as stated in the article. My one good friend told me for months they kept busting these places and never arrested a single monger which seemed odd but they would raid the place when they knew no one was there but the girls and house booker. Here is where it gets scary for us.

They bring the girls in to the police station ask them if they are trafficked or there at their own will. They then take the house guys phone and girls phone to do a sim dump (this is what they did in Ohio) the next day the booker will send out a mass text which is actually down by the police sex crimes unit and when you reply to the text they start their investigation on you. This is 100% exactly what happened to my 3 friends in Ohio. One friend told me spot he went to got busted twice and literally next day there were opened again and same thing with odd text out of no where asking if they wanted to make appointment- then 9 months later his gets a certified letter which was an indictment. What's even more scary is each one used WeChat or burners. So at the time they had no clue how they would be found but turns out when their lawyers requested discovery it was noted the cameras these locations use to protect their business were actually used to identify mongers. Parking out front, parking in back and there were actually identified by plate numbers -.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...an/6008063001/

All I'm saying is if you aren't willing to go to jail then don't do the crime. I myself love Asian Women so this doesn't faze me but be prepared to get arrested at some point fellas.

**RealHenry4044** · 07-01-22 11:44

Originally Posted by OFCharlie [View Original Post]

If cops are serious about catching mongers, busting an apartment is not a great way to do that. Let me explain. RL has 3 girls. Let's assume all 3 girls are busy with mongers and there are a couple more guys waiting. That is 5 guys total. As soon as cops bust in, that is all they will get, 5. Cops can not just wait inside for more mongers to show up. This is because the booker stays at a different place. When the booker can't reach the door guy, she will know something is wrong. When she knows something is wrong, she won't send mongers in. Plus, mongers will see cop cars outside. There are better ways to catch 5 mongers than spending weeks and months doing surveillance. Personally I don't think cops would spend that kind of time and resources to just catch 5 mongers. Now if you want to say that mongers are just a bonus as part of busting the apartment, fine I won't argue with you on that point. But to say the main purpose of busting an apartment is to catch mongers is simply not correct imo.

Thai girl Lisa is one of the 3 girls taken in. She is starting at PAC today per their Twitter page. Anyone who goes to see her can ask her if there were any mongers there at the time of RL bust and if there were mongers at that time, what happened to them. Thai Lisa is popular, so I am sure one of us will be seeing her. Anyone who see her, please ask the question and report back here so that we can settle this once for all.

Just stay away from the apartments for a couple of weeks. Wait until no more posts on police, then come back to these apartments. It's not giving up this hobby, just stay low for a couple of weeks.

**OF Charlie** · 07-01-22 10:39

Originally Posted by RealHenry4044 [View Original Post]

"If we're serious about ending sex trafficking, it's very clear that something needs to be done about the buyers".

https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops...y-prostitutes/

This article says recently there is a trend to arrest and charge Johns. Never let your vigilance down. I appreciate the voluntary lookout in this forum. Please keep us informed. Respect.

If cops are serious about catching mongers, busting an apartment is not a great way to do that. Let me explain. RL has 3 girls. Let's assume all 3 girls are busy with mongers and there are a couple more guys waiting. That is 5 guys total. As soon as cops bust in, that is all they will get, 5. Cops can not just wait inside for more mongers to show up. This is because the booker stays at a different place. When the booker can't reach the door guy, she will know something is wrong. When she knows something is wrong, she won't send mongers in. Plus, mongers will see cop cars outside. There are better ways to catch 5 mongers than spending weeks and months doing surveillance. Personally I don't think cops would spend that kind of time and resources to just catch 5 mongers. Now if you want to say that mongers are just a bonus as part of busting the apartment, fine I won't argue with you on that point. But to say the main purpose of busting an apartment is to catch mongers is simply not correct imo.

Thai girl Lisa is one of the 3 girls taken in. She is starting at PAC today per their Twitter page. Anyone who goes to see her can ask her if there were any mongers there at the time of RL bust and if there were mongers at that time, what happened to them. Thai Lisa is popular, so I am sure one of us will be seeing her. Anyone who see her, please ask the question and report back here so that we can settle this once for all.

**Fit312** · 07-01-22 05:49

Originally Posted by RealHenry4044 [View Original Post]

This article says recently there is a trend to arrest and charge Johns. Never let your vigilance down. I appreciate the voluntary lookout in this forum. Please keep us informed. Respect.

Good article, but it appears to be 4-5 years old given the Backpage reference.

**Bob521** · 07-01-22 01:45

Conventional phone texting is stone age. And super dangerous if you want to stay private.

If you are going to any Chinese AMP or apartment, you can use WeChat once you connect with either the mammasan or the massage girl. A billion Chinese folks use WeChat and it not connected to any phone number. Also it has built in translation acpability. Download or iPhone or Android. Free. I keep it in a hidden folder and I set the notifications to "off" so that I don't get a message at the worng time. At most AMPs, assuming the session goes well you can ask to connect with them. My speech would go something like this. "I really want to see you again. " I'm afriad you might go to another shop. Most girls will size you up but probably connect with you (using a QR code). At one point I had over 40 active "friend" contacts. Was able on numberous occasions to visit them on their day off. Win / win since the house doesn't get a cut (although the motel owner does.) If you end up with a contact that becomes problematic you can block them from all further contact. That, by the way, is the reason the girls are not afraid to add you to the list. If they become afraid of you they will block you. You can easily delete all histroy from a contact when necessary.

Three caveats: (1) Your messages go thru WeChat servers in China. (Government) So don't say anything political and don't reveal any personal / finacial information. (2) Don't tell the mamason you are communicating with her girls. They'll get in trouble. (3) Don't say anything particularly incriminating. A couple times my messages were seen by the girl's husband. Again the girl got in trouble. As far as I'm concerned, though these are the same precautions you would follow with conventional texting.

Bob.

Originally Posted by NovaBrain [View Original Post]

I'm a new monger, and one of the first things I took care of was staying anonymous. I use an app called Burner similar to the one mentioned below (Hush). It's just an app that sits on your phone with an entirely separate phone number in a completely isolated environment. You can use it as if it were any other texting / calling app, and it only uses your real phone number to log in.

I've used this app for other stuff before, but for this new hobby I had made a completely new number. At one of the first AMPs I went to, after texting for a lineup, within the hour I had three completely random spam calls. The next day, I had over 5 missed calls and a few messages. I was also put into a group chat with a few other mongers, and at that point I 'burned' that number and started again. This isn't that common, but it's definitely happened more than once.

I brought that up because it's not only potential LEOs, friends, or your spouse that can find your number and link it back to the hobby. The parlors and providers also may do really stupid stuff with your number, like selling it to a spam call list or even shadier entities. Potential blackmailing and phishing comes to mind.

If you can't use an app like Hushed or Burner, get a second phone for hobbying. It's not worth the headache of getting your primary number leaked out to places it shouldn't be. If you're hiding the app from your spouse, make sure to delete the download from your respective app store. (Uninstall the app, delete the 2 FA sms code texts, AND delete the purchase from the app store).

I've also talked to providers, and some mongers use Zelle / Venmo / Cashapp for extra tips. If this is you, make sure you're using a separate bank account, or number, or anything possible to separate it from your primary account. That still isn't ideal though, because I think all of these apps ultimately trace up to either your bank account or debit card (which. Needs a bank), but if you're planning on hiding, obfuscating the paper trail will help a lot.

Take care of yourselves and your privacy guys, especially if you aren't supposed to get caught doing this!

**RealHenry4044** · 07-01-22 01:04

Originally Posted by OFCharlie [View Original Post]

Let me start off by saying that I have no reasons to doubt that you have actually read the police incident report. Since you have read the police incident report and you didn't mention any mongers were taken to the police station, then there can only be 2 possibilities. One possibility is that there were mongers there at the time of bust and they were all let go on the spot. Or there were no mongers there at the time of bust. 11:53 am is in the middle of the day. Hard to believe there were no mongers there at that time. But for the sake of argument, let's say there really weren't any mongers there at the time of bust. Then the question becomes if they were really interested in catching mongers, why wouldn't they have just waited until some mongers were inside first before doing the bust? With how busy RL is, they shouldn't have to wait too long before one or more mongers show up. Again people, draw you own conclusion. To me, this is a clear indication that the cops are simply not interested in catching mongers. We are all just there for a massage.

"If we're serious about ending sex trafficking, it's very clear that something needs to be done about the buyers".

https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops...y-prostitutes/

This article says recently there is a trend to arrest and charge Johns. Never let your vigilance down. I appreciate the voluntary lookout in this forum. Please keep us informed. Respect.

**Illinois Guy 7** · 06-30-22 18:03

Originally Posted by Selforen11 [View Original Post]

Amanda was initially shown on the KP schedule as "Coming soon. " "Coming soon" was then changed to "OFF. " Amanda is the real deal and I can't wait to see her when she starts seeing clients (which hopefully is soon).

She started today, and I saw her. She said she had a cold and had to isolate until it passed.

But whatever it was, she was fan-friggin-tastic today. Staying maybe 10 or 11 more days.

**SpaGuy21** · 06-30-22 15:34

Originally Posted by Richard7 [View Original Post]

If you believe LEO are around, then avoid these places for a few days / months.

This.

Originally Posted by OFCharlie [View Original Post]

To me, this is a clear indication that the cops are simply not interested in catching mongers. We are all just there for a massage.

Not this.

AMPs ratting each other out, fighting over the BIG bucks they're making off of Chicago mongers?! I wouldn't want to be caught up anywhere near that when the fuzz comes a knockin. Sure, you may not be charged with anything but would you really want them flexing their leverage on you, asking questions? This is a hobby. There are many spots that don't have this kind of attention right now. NOT worth it.

**OF Charlie** · 06-30-22 12:15

Originally Posted by Trader1973 [View Original Post]

They are lying. You can go to the police HQ on S Halstead and ask for the incident report for the RL Address. They got busted at 11:53 am on Monday and the house guy and 3 girls were taken in for questioning and released per the incident report. Doesn't say what they were looking for but girl in room 1 had the longest stay at Police HQ per the incident report she was released several hours after the other girls. But when you message them ask them why their is a police incident report for 11:53 am on Monday and see what they say. I have 2 friends in Ohio who got busted just going to AMPs but they got tied up in Trafficking because one girl out of hundreds said she was there against her will. All I'm saying is if you believe their lie keep going there but make sure you have bail money -.

Let me start off by saying that I have no reasons to doubt that you have actually read the police incident report. Since you have read the police incident report and you didn't mention any mongers were taken to the police station, then there can only be 2 possibilities. One possibility is that there were mongers there at the time of bust and they were all let go on the spot. Or there were no mongers there at the time of bust. 11:53 am is in the middle of the day. Hard to believe there were no mongers there at that time. But for the sake of argument, let's say there really weren't any mongers there at the time of bust. Then the question becomes if they were really interested in catching mongers, why wouldn't they have just waited until some mongers were inside first before doing the bust? With how busy RL is, they shouldn't have to wait too long before one or more mongers show up. Again people, draw you own conclusion. To me, this is a clear indication that the cops are simply not interested in catching mongers. We are all just there for a massage.

**Rook6642** · 06-30-22 11:46

Originally Posted by NovaBrain [View Original Post]

I'm a new monger, and one of the first things I took care of was staying anonymous. I use an app called Burner similar to the one mentioned below (Hush). It's just an app that sits on your phone with an entirely separate phone number in a completely isolated environment. You can use it as if it were any other texting / calling app, and it only uses your real phone number to log in.

I've used this app for other stuff before, but for this new hobby I had made a completely new number. At one of the first AMPs I went to, after texting for a lineup, within the hour I had three completely random spam calls. The next day, I had over 5 missed calls and a few messages. I was also put into a group chat with a few other mongers, and at that point I 'burned' that number and started again. This isn't that common, but it's definitely happened more than once.

I brought that up because it's not only potential LEOs, friends, or your spouse that can find your number and link it back to the hobby. The parlors and providers also may do really stupid stuff with your number, like selling it to a spam call list or even shadier entities. Potential blackmailing and phishing comes to mind.

If you can't use an app like Hushed or Burner, get a second phone for hobbying. It's not worth the headache of getting your primary number leaked out to places it shouldn't be. If you're hiding the app from your spouse, make sure to delete the download from your respective app store. (Uninstall the app, delete the 2 FA sms code texts, AND delete the purchase from the app store).

I've also talked to providers, and some mongers use Zelle / Venmo / Cashapp for extra tips. If this is you, make sure you're using a separate bank account, or number, or anything possible to separate it from your primary account. That still isn't ideal though, because I think all of these apps ultimately trace up to either your bank account or debit card (which. Needs a bank), but if you're planning on hiding, obfuscating the paper trail will help a lot.

Take care of yourselves and your privacy guys, especially if you aren't supposed to get caught doing this!

Great advice, I would never use Zelle / venmo type thing. I have a second phone. I leave it in my work bag. Being discreet is my main objective.

**Need It Bad** · 06-30-22 10:46

Originally Posted by Trader1973 [View Original Post]

They are lying. You can go to the police HQ on S Halstead and ask for the incident report for the RL Address. They got busted at 11:53 am on Monday and the house guy and 3 girls were taken in for questioning and released per the incident report. Doesn't say what they were looking for but girl in room 1 had the longest stay at Police HQ per the incident report she was released several hours after the other girls. But when you message them ask them why their is a police incident report for 11:53 am on Monday and see what they say. I have 2 friends in Ohio who got busted just going to AMPs but they got tied up in Trafficking because one girl out of hundreds said she was there against her will. All I'm saying is if you believe their lie keep going there but make sure you have bail money -.

Were you able to get a hardcopy of the police report? If so, can you post it (after redacting the address)?

**Richard7** · 06-30-22 09:07

If you believe LEO are around, then avoid these places for a few days / months.

**Trader1973** · 06-30-22 05:56

Originally Posted by ChicagoMonger1 [View Original Post]

On Wednesday, I asked RL what happened with the police. They told me that they were not busted. They said that someone operates an informal "hotel" on the second floor of their building. They said that someone upstairs got drunk, and the police were called to deal with that. I asked them why they were closed on Monday, and they said that the girls got spooked by the police presence, so they took the day off.

They are lying. You can go to the police HQ on S Halstead and ask for the incident report for the RL Address. They got busted at 11:53 am on Monday and the house guy and 3 girls were taken in for questioning and released per the incident report. Doesn't say what they were looking for but girl in room 1 had the longest stay at Police HQ per the incident report she was released several hours after the other girls. But when you message them ask them why their is a police incident report for 11:53 am on Monday and see what they say. I have 2 friends in Ohio who got busted just going to AMPs but they got tied up in Trafficking because one girl out of hundreds said she was there against her will. All I'm saying is if you believe their lie keep going there but make sure you have bail money -.