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  1. #19514

    Sara (not) UTR update

    So she hit me up in the morning saying her landlord was there the night before. So I go there and she opens the door in just shorts. And I'm surprised to find she looks like a typical addict, no wonder her prices were that low. Photos were somewhat deceiving. Anyway I said sorry and left.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiquorLotto  [View Original Post]
    Pretty sure she has an ad on stg so utr has not been true for awhile.

  2. #19513
    Quote Originally Posted by Anon2854  [View Original Post]
    I've gotten bored with the AMP scene so just starting to venture into the "independent" world. I contacted a number of girls last night and almost all of them were asking for gift cards. I understand the idea behind it but it sounds so very very shady. There were some other red flags. Like the obvious one. Fake pictures confirmed by google image search. Also, one person gave me an address which happens to be a mile from where I grew up. When I asked what the crossroads were she instead responded with a nude pic. So, what's the deal with this? Gift cards a scam? What do I look out for to avoid it? Anything else unique to this world worth knowing for a newbie? (I did end up finding someone last night for a hang out).
    Gift cards are always a scam. So is anything where you pay money in advance.

    Other red flags: out of state area codes, poor English, overly professional looking photos, people trying to get you over to Instagram to talk, no history of posting ads, no reviews anywhere, unwillingness to send a verification pic, requirements of using something non-standard for verification like a strange app you haven't heard of, requiring you to install anything on your phone or computer, tineye image search the photos and see if they are coming up in weird places. Most importantly, search out reviews and find well reviewed women.

  3. #19512
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1348

    Twins

    Quote Originally Posted by Other  [View Original Post]
    This one has a twin sister she used to do duos with a few years back. It was wild. This girl used to go by Mary-Kate and her sister used the name Ashley. You can tell them apart by the tattoos and the fact that her sister was the nice one. They used to stay in a trailer in Sterling Heights and I used to see her sister quite often after they stopped the duos. I'd be interested in knowing if the sister is still around.
    When I was in Florida about 13 or 14 years ago I knew a hot set of identical twins from Detroit. They used used always argue with each other and one used to refer to herself as "the prettier one". They moved back to Detroit and supposedly got sober. They looked like they could be models, were very beautiful. The picture looks like them. At the time they were 19 or 20 yo which would put them in their early 30's now. I'm pretty sure it's the same twins.

  4. #19511

    Scams and learning from my major error

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackEscape  [View Original Post]
    This post is going to sound very cynical, but I think it needs to be said.
    ...
    I behaved stupidly in GR recently and am sharing this for those who are lurking and learning and need to see a nearly worst case scenario:

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...265&viewfull=1#post5984265.

    Lurkers and newbies: follow the advice of the older types and don't be like me.

    LSL.

  5. #19510

    Twins

    Quote Originally Posted by Other  [View Original Post]
    This one has a twin sister she used to do duos with a few years back. It was wild. This girl used to go by Mary-Kate and her sister used the name Ashley. You can tell them apart by the tattoos and the fact that her sister was the nice one. They used to stay in a trailer in Sterling Heights and I used to see her sister quite often after they stopped the duos. I'd be interested in knowing if the sister is still around.
    The other sister is still around but not active in the hobby, that I'm aware of. She's trying to do better for herself as a hairdresser, last I heard.

    Maybe reach out to the one posting as Ashley and see what she has to say about a Duo with her sister? I'm sure if the moneys right, both will be willing and available.

    Remain Safe everyone!

  6. #19509

    Sara utr

    Pretty sure she has an ad on stg so utr has not been true for awhile.

  7. #19508

    Sara UTR strange experience

    Sara was recommended heavily here and Batman was nice enough to provide her digits. I text her and it starts very well, she sounds interested and quite chatty. Says she's working her day job and will be free around 5-6 PM. 130 ss, 150 hh for incall. Provides a few photos too, posting a couple here without her face out of respect for her privacy. Looks like she has a banging body and a reasonably pretty face. So we're texting till 4 PM and I'm super excited and then I text her at 5 and then 6 and then call at 7, text again at 8. Radio silence. Wished I had utilised the time to see some other girl. Anyway while I was waiting, went to Legends and had a nice experience. Will post that on the strip club forum.
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  8. #19507

    Twins

    Quote Originally Posted by Other  [View Original Post]
    This one has a twin sister she used to do duos with a few years back. It was wild. This girl used to go by Mary-Kate and her sister used the name Ashley. You can tell them apart by the tattoos and the fact that her sister was the nice one. They used to stay in a trailer in Sterling Heights and I used to see her sister quite often after they stopped the duos. I'd be interested in knowing if the sister is still around.
    Did the twins engage with each other or just take turns?

  9. #19506
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackEscape  [View Original Post]
    This post is going to sound very cynical, but I think it needs to be said.

    Most of the ads that you are going to find anymore are going to be some degree of scam. There's the ones who want a "deposit" before seeing you, there are the ones who want to get you to the meet and will upsell you, there are even cash-and-dash girls. The whole monger thing has changed a lot in the past 25 yrs since I started to get in on it, it's changed a lot in the past 5 years, particularly. These boards are packed with guys (and / or girls) from different cities who just create fake accounts and get dopes to send them "deposits", sell videos and pics of other people, what have you.

    I used to feel fine with just getting a girl off BP who had not yet been reviewed if she passed my "smell test" (posted for weeks, had posted in multiple cities, pics weren't TGTBT, etc.), but now, unless someone's been reviewed by a user here, I am extremely apprehensive about texting.

    Another problem, as an aside, is that quality has really fallen off. These are some ROUGH looking girls now. Before it was a good mix of gross and decent, but now, there are so many obese, old, wrinkled up girls I wouldn't bang for free out there. For example, on alligator, I searched sterling for sterling heights, and so many freaks and geeks come up. Then you see ads where the pics look pro grade and they are demanding deposits. There just aren't any good looking, legit-appearing girls on these boards anymore. SAD!
    I have been getting the Cashapp info and reporting them as scam and block.

  10. #19505
    Senior Member


    Posts: 190

    Twins

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyMatt123  [View Original Post]
    Saw her today. What a bad choice. It's her, body nice, but that's where the good stuff ends.

    Set it up an hour in advance. Told her on the way 35 min before arrival to which she says "perfect".

    I arrive and she's not ready. I hate that. Sit in my car in the driveway for 10 min. Normally I would have bailed, but I like her look. So I stay. And much like seeing a doctor, I get called in, but now am waiting the the living room while she is in the bathroom getting ready. 25 minutes. Again I normally would have bailed, and again, I like the look.

    It's finally Showtime, she comes out looking identical to when she went into the bathroom 25 min ago. Get on the bed, whips out her phone to set a timer. Now Im pissed. I didn't set a timer in the fucking living room. Lack luster 3 min bbj. Covered FS like the house was on fire and left. Never again. My fault. The signs were there. My big head almost always wins. Score one for the little Feller.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...troit/84608016
    This one has a twin sister she used to do duos with a few years back. It was wild. This girl used to go by Mary-Kate and her sister used the name Ashley. You can tell them apart by the tattoos and the fact that her sister was the nice one. They used to stay in a trailer in Sterling Heights and I used to see her sister quite often after they stopped the duos. I'd be interested in knowing if the sister is still around.
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  11. #19504

    No answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Stache27  [View Original Post]
    https://detroit.skipthegames.com/fem...i/509984424150

    Any experiences with this one? Tried searching and came up with nothing.
    I've tried calling and texting before and never got a reply, which leads me to think it's TGTBT sadly as those ads have been around for a few months now at least.

  12. #19503
    Quote Originally Posted by Stache27  [View Original Post]
    https://detroit.skipthegames.com/fem...i/509984424150

    Any experiences with this one? Tried searching and came up with nothing.
    That is one smart lady to advertise like that.

  13. #19502
    Senior Member


    Posts: 356

    Alexa

    Quote Originally Posted by Stache27  [View Original Post]
    https://detroit.skipthegames.com/fem...i/509984424150

    Any experiences with this one? Tried searching and came up with nothing.
    Don't know. New ad. Very intriguing. Might have to visit legends just to see if she's real.

  14. #19501

    Alexia

    https://detroit.skipthegames.com/fem...i/509984424150

    Any experiences with this one? Tried searching and came up with nothing.

  15. #19500

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Anon2854  [View Original Post]
    I've gotten bored with the AMP scene so just starting to venture into the "independent" world. I contacted a number of girls last night and almost all of them were asking for gift cards. I understand the idea behind it but it sounds so very very shady. There were some other red flags. Like the obvious one. Fake pictures confirmed by google image search. Also, one person gave me an address which happens to be a mile from where I grew up. When I asked what the crossroads were she instead responded with a nude pic. So, what's the deal with this? Gift cards a scam? What do I look out for to avoid it? Anything else unique to this world worth knowing for a newbie? (I did end up finding someone last night for a hang out).
    Gift cards are a scam.

    If you're new to it, there's a few tricks I've learned. In doing this 10 years, only been scammed twice.

    1) No deposits. Ever. You can vet this out by either asking for outcall pricing before anything else, or just a basic check on their rates.

    2) I pretty much refuse to do incall as my first visit with any provider I don't know. I've danced with a few in this area, flag went up on all of them so I dipped. No thanks. (If they're in a hotel there's a lot less concern here but not much).

    3) If it isn't a donation in cash or cash app, don't do it. Cards, gifts, "help me out" texts asking for funding, or asking for $$$ before going into the room together. That's a no no.

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