Massage Parlor Reports

[MichigMan]

Hey gents,

I am having a tough time deciding on who to see tomorrow, Kayla from Panacea, or Hunter. I know both have great reviews and I haven't seen either so I am just looking for some insight.

[Member #6391]

Anyone know what happened to Jessi from Bodywotks? I see she's no longer on Brit's ad but a couple new girls are. I always liked Jessi's laid back demenor and her massage style. I would appreciate any info.

Thanks in advance, Stoker417.

On her own working from an apartment.

[BoatGuy1]

That was an experience. Not sure what I expected but check that off the bucket list and maybe add to do again.

So many different thoughts but was erotic to say the least.

Days later, still in my thoughts.

[JCrew1984]

Usually BBU is a go to spot for good service at a decent rate but my last experience will probably be my last for as long as they stay at the new location. IDK who owns the barbershop in front I thought it was part of BBU but when I arrived there for my last visit there where some AA in the parking lot tryin to flirt with one of the girls, so I pulled around texted provider 5 minutes later got the ok drive back around and right when I got out my car so does an AA 2 spots away. The whole time during my time the AAs where blasting music from the barbershop and could hear a couple of them talking.

IDK who they were if they were one of the girls friends or the owner of the barber shop, but with the girls hanging out outside and whomever guys up front trying to flirt with them they lost my business just my opinion.

[HangLow3]

Thank you for the pointers. It would appear I have a lot to learn in this aspect and have been approaching this from the wrong vantage point and my methods have been fundamentally flawed. I await further nuances from those of you who are skilled in negotiating, not just cost, but also level of services or extras provided. I need to become an ardent student of the game.

Thank you all in advance for your continued assistance in the ongoing education of this dude..

Bro,

Good to, see ya reach out for advice to help. Ya don't need to be played and sending cash. Hanglow been trying to help y'all not get, played by sounding warning. Might be late but at, lease you save some cash now. I ain't you enemy. I am the walrus.

[HangLow3]

The cameras will provide the cops all they need to arrest all the folks that have participated in their services. For that reason I'll spend my money elsewhere.

Bro,

Nice solid warning for y'all wanting to see ya fave place. Smile, for sheriff.

[BlueGoose]

Haven't been to the parlor in a bit debating between Milan Monica Reyna. I've been to both places numerous times just curious which one of these three would be best new experience.

[Tommey]

Anyone know where I can find pics and names of the panacea line-up now. I have not been in the area since last fall. I'm visiting again this month. Also, lost the BBU website for booking. Is that posted some here, not on ads!

The Panacea ad has pics of their crew, with names. Here's a link to a recent ad: https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...a/384944132283.

Bodywork by Us has not posted their link publicly, to my knowledge. But they do post numbers in their ads, including a main number in this recent ad: https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...u/391528844537.

Contact Brit or the main number on that link.

[Gene2]

Anyone know where I can find pics and names of the panacea line-up now. I have not been in the area since last fall. I'm visiting again this month. Also, lost the BBU website for booking. Is that posted some here, not on ads!

Hope it helps.

[Mike Yepthatsm]

Go to STG website and search panacea in the GR section and you will see the ads with their pics and names.

Anyone know where I can find pics and names of the panacea line-up now. I have not been in the area since last fall. I'm visiting again this month. Also, lost the BBU website for booking. Is that posted some here, not on ads!

[Member #6286]

Anyone know where I can find pics and names of the panacea line-up now. I have not been in the area since last fall. I'm visiting again this month. Also, lost the BBU website for booking. Is that posted some here, not on ads!

[Member #6286]

Anyone know where I can find pics and names of the panacea line-up now. I have not been in the area since last fall. I'm visiting again this month. Also, lost the BBU website for booking. Is that posted some here, not on ads!

[Gene2]

Tommey is right, always be willing to walk away, I've done it many times.

Remember the person in charge is the one with the money. Give her the money and you've lost all control of the date.

If I see an escort that tells me there will be cim and she hands me a cover, I head for the door. Most of the time she'll change her mind before I put my hand on the door knob. If she already had the money I would be getting ripped off.

Negotiations are easy at the salon too.

If they know you're worried about mood kill, they will upcharge and rip you off.

The easiest way to negotiate is by only bringing in what you plan to spend. Let them see it but don't give the money until you're satisfied with service.

When they upsell, tell them I only have X.

Be willing to accept whatever they have to offer for your X. If you don't like their offer for X, counter offer and let them know you can do it yourself and save the whole tip. Once you start jerking off in front of them, they usually see their tip disappearing and they join in.

Normally I consider myself an educated and fairly intelligent man. However, at this time, my woeful lack of skill and basic understanding of the art of this game is painfully evident. While this is a bit embarrassing, I stand ready to learn and realign my expectations and approaches. It appears I need to take a much "longer range" viewpoint to the activities I desire. I need to learn that amount paid or tipped doesn't necessarily translate to better service or extra activities being made available.

I find solace that perhaps numerous other dudes here are in my shoes. And while they may remain silent, they too can learn from this sharing of information and methodologies.

Thank you.

G2.

[Gene2]

Thanks to Benz for the reminder about the newbie guide. Lots of good info there. Yet, I did a quick scan and didn't see much on negotiating. This post was the only one directly on point: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post4532668.

I suppose there may be more buried in some of the other content there.

For Gene and others' benefit, it may help if members share some more thoughts about getting started with negotiations.

First off, the best advice I have is, just do it. What works for some won't work for everyone, and you simply need to start doing it. After some practice, you will find an approach that works for your voice and conversational style. So start pushing back on price.

It will not ruin the mood, negotiating. The women doing this work are quite accustomed to it. And you can learn a lot about a provider based on how she handles talk of money.

And, of course, always be prepared to walk away. When the money requests get crazy, there is a time to just bag it, and walk away.

Thank you for the pointers. It would appear I have a lot to learn in this aspect and have been approaching this from the wrong vantage point and my methods have been fundamentally flawed. I await further nuances from those of you who are skilled in negotiating, not just cost, but also level of services or extras provided. I need to become an ardent student of the game.

Thank you all in advance for your continued assistance in the ongoing education of this dude.

G2.

[Benz1]

Thanks to Benz for the reminder about the newbie guide. Lots of good info there. Yet, I did a quick scan and didn't see much on negotiating. This post was the only one directly on point: http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post4532668.

I suppose there may be more buried in some of the other content there.

For Gene and others' benefit, it may help if members share some more thoughts about getting started with negotiations.

First off, the best advice I have is, just do it. What works for some won't work for everyone, and you simply need to start doing it. After some practice, you will find an approach that works for your voice and conversational style. So start pushing back on price.

It will not ruin the mood, negotiating. The women doing this work are quite accustomed to it. And you can learn a lot about a provider based on how she handles talk of money.

And, of course, always be prepared to walk away. When the money requests get crazy, there is a time to just bag it, and walk away.

Oh, last bit that I have is that negotiations vary quite a bit depending on what type of provider you are seeing, whether it be massage, escorting, or street walking. This question comes in the massage thread, which is my preference. So my views are skewed to what works best there (for me). But keep that in mind when a member who primarily sees SWs and escorts gives thoughts on the money dance, because some of it may apply here, and some not.

Tommey is right, always be willing to walk away, I've done it many times.

Remember the person in charge is the one with the money. Give her the money and you've lost all control of the date.

If I see an escort that tells me there will be cim and she hands me a cover, I head for the door. Most of the time she'll change her mind before I put my hand on the door knob. If she already had the money I would be getting ripped off.

Negotiations are easy at the salon too.

If they know you're worried about mood kill, they will upcharge and rip you off.

The easiest way to negotiate is by only bringing in what you plan to spend. Let them see it but don't give the money until you're satisfied with service.

When they upsell, tell them I only have X.

Be willing to accept whatever they have to offer for your X. If you don't like their offer for X, counter offer and let them know you can do it yourself and save the whole tip. Once you start jerking off in front of them, they usually see their tip disappearing and they join in.

You might notice that I'm focused more on the results than the mood. If your worried about mood, empty your wallet, borrow from your neighbors and remortgage your house because there will never be enough to keep them happy.

Street walkers are a little different, once they're in your car it could be dangerous to negotiate too far. Many years before I joined usasexguide I picked up a SW and she was wacked out. I told her to get out and she started screaming, hitting my windows and dash board. Cost me 20 to get her out of the car. WTF. I do pick up street walkers anymore.

Tuesday and Wednesday are the slowest days of the week, your negotiation will have better results mid week. Never negotiate on Friday, they have a lot more options and won't hear a word you say. Friday is payday for them.