Sugar Babies & Arrangements

[ModestRaver]

Babyivy wants 2 k for fun. Expects you to pay hundreds of dollars to take her to dinner or lunch or whatever for more than the agreed amount. Claims she can make more dancing (she's a stripper) but it's been "slow". She's "compromising". GPS is real with this one!

[CheekyFella]

Heheh. You should've asked. I've known a lot of strippers over the years. They all love to talk about how they make thousands a night. The truth is a good night is $500 and that happens like once or twice a month. The reality is they make $100-150 a night most days. Sometimes much less.

LOL Thanks. Yes I saw through her BS and guessed that to be her profession. When I said OK. That was my response to her confirming I was passing on the offer. I have a couple of higer end regulars who I met on P411. That's what I give them for a guaranteed enjoyable time.

[Je2010]

Why are you even on the attack? She's model slender in the pics. She's. Thick. In person. I didn't ask her to get on a scale, so I don't know what she actually weighs, but she's big.

Stop attacking me. Go fuckin see her and then tell me that she's the same girl in the pics and only put on a few pounds.

Going to main up and give an apology to Finance guy. You were correct. Not only are her pics not even close to accurate, she is on some type of drug. Had burn marks on her fingers, she was very dirty when I got there. I ended up making an excuse that I left the allowance in my car before we started and I left.

I am sorry for doubting you.

[RockyR]

So this young lady reaches out and strikes up a conversation. Right away in reading her profile, I know it's not going to be a connection. I am not into BDSM and definitely not a submissive. I even told her so upfront. But she was cool to chat with and we exchanged numbers. She eventually said she would be open to a vanilla agreement. Meaning PPM. Her expectation is $400. I advise that's above my limit for a first get together because of all the BS found on the site. Her response was.

Meh I'm not down for having sex for less than I make during a shift at work.

I'm thinking if you are doing so well at your job, what are you doing on Seeking? I simply replied OK.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-b9e4dda2d615

Heheh. You should've asked. I've known a lot of strippers over the years. They all love to talk about how they make thousands a night. The truth is a good night is $500 and that happens like once or twice a month. The reality is they make $100-150 a night most days. Sometimes much less.

[CheekyFella]

So this young lady reaches out and strikes up a conversation. Right away in reading her profile, I know it's not going to be a connection. I am not into BDSM and definitely not a submissive. I even told her so upfront. But she was cool to chat with and we exchanged numbers. She eventually said she would be open to a vanilla agreement. Meaning PPM. Her expectation is $400. I advise that's above my limit for a first get together because of all the BS found on the site. Her response was.

Meh I'm not down for having sex for less than I make during a shift at work.

I'm thinking if you are doing so well at your job, what are you doing on Seeking? I simply replied OK.

These GPS ladies need to realize you can still find an attractive pro on P411, Eros, Tryst, 3 etc for the same price.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-b9e4dda2d615

[Je2010]

Started out great, but seeing she is so damn hot, I had my reservations.

Of course, she wants 1/2 up front before she will meet because she said guys have walked out and not paid her before To prove she was a scam, I offered to give her the whole amount up front, she still declined.

[Je2010]

Wants you to take her shopping, but don't expect anything in return for awhile.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...5-080c24b7d3ec

1 k per meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...a-bffdcd387a23

8 per meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...2-8402088acee2

8 per meet, she told me that all other women are mid compared to her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...6-b5b5865e81b3

This girl is a shitshow. Looking for money to pay her phone bill because she is scared to not have a phone because she lives alone. Then proceeds to tell me we cannot meet at her place because her roommate is there. Wants to do it in her car.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...9-fbf2b1d91d19

[LatinaHunpster]

Was in town for the memorial weekend. The Seeking app is just ok in the Tampa area compared to Chicago, Detroit or Miami but I did find a hot blonde Asian girl Talie I believe was her profile name. Pics were hot and I was skeptical as to whether she was realor a scam. Texted back and forth little she wanted 600. I told her I usually do 300. We agreed on 500 which is my top and only if I believe they are a solid 8+. I wanted her to come to my hotel but she insisted on hosting at her apartment by International Plaza. Again I was skeptical that she would ask for money upfront just as I got there to get her apartment number but no she gave it toe prior so good there. I get there and it seems quiet and safe but dark so I was watching my ass and looking over my shoulder. Knocked on the door and this hot blonde Asian chick answers in hot little red dress. She looks just like her pics and actually was cuter in person. We hung out and talked and drank some wine and made out a little. She then invited me to her bedroom. Started dfk and then BBBJ. Gave decent head. I then went down on her. Very nice shaved and clean tasting pussy which we both thoroughly enjoyed. After a few she wanted me to fuck her but unfortunately she insisted on a condom. I wanted to bareback that sweet pussy but I understood. Banged her cg, doggy and missionary. Hung out for a little after and talked. Great girl. Definitely would repeat. Going to have to come back to town.

Barry.

Great report and appreciate it- but you paid way too much.

[SomeFinanceGuy]

Was in town for the memorial weekend. The Seeking app is just ok in the Tampa area compared to Chicago, Detroit or Miami but I did find a hot blonde Asian girl Talie I believe was her profile name. Pics were hot and I was skeptical as to whether she was realor a scam. Texted back and forth little she wanted 600. I told her I usually do 300. We agreed on 500 which is my top and only if I believe they are a solid 8+. I wanted her to come to my hotel but she insisted on hosting at her apartment by International Plaza. Again I was skeptical that she would ask for money upfront just as I got there to get her apartment number but no she gave it toe prior so good there. I get there and it seems quiet and safe but dark so I was watching my ass and looking over my shoulder. Knocked on the door and this hot blonde Asian chick answers in hot little red dress. She looks just like her pics and actually was cuter in person. We hung out and talked and drank some wine and made out a little. She then invited me to her bedroom. Started dfk and then BBBJ. Gave decent head. I then went down on her. Very nice shaved and clean tasting pussy which we both thoroughly enjoyed. After a few she wanted me to fuck her but unfortunately she insisted on a condom. I wanted to bareback that sweet pussy but I understood. Banged her cg, doggy and missionary. Hung out for a little after and talked. Great girl. Definitely would repeat. Going to have to come back to town.

Barry.

Do you have a profile link?

[BarryUrschaft]

Was in town for the memorial weekend. The Seeking app is just ok in the Tampa area compared to Chicago, Detroit or Miami but I did find a hot blonde Asian girl Talie I believe was her profile name. Pics were hot and I was skeptical as to whether she was realor a scam. Texted back and forth little she wanted 600. I told her I usually do 300. We agreed on 500 which is my top and only if I believe they are a solid 8+. I wanted her to come to my hotel but she insisted on hosting at her apartment by International Plaza. Again I was skeptical that she would ask for money upfront just as I got there to get her apartment number but no she gave it toe prior so good there. I get there and it seems quiet and safe but dark so I was watching my ass and looking over my shoulder. Knocked on the door and this hot blonde Asian chick answers in hot little red dress. She looks just like her pics and actually was cuter in person. We hung out and talked and drank some wine and made out a little. She then invited me to her bedroom. Started dfk and then BBBJ. Gave decent head. I then went down on her. Very nice shaved and clean tasting pussy which we both thoroughly enjoyed. After a few she wanted me to fuck her but unfortunately she insisted on a condom. I wanted to bareback that sweet pussy but I understood. Banged her cg, doggy and missionary. Hung out for a little after and talked. Great girl. Definitely would repeat. Going to have to come back to town.

Barry.

[Law Dawg]

This one wants 700 ppm. Not my exact type but was going to give her try if reasonable. I countered and no response. https://members.seeking.com/member/0...7-b09902f96ccb.

[Tampa30]

This is one hell of a quality post. Reading it I think you are spot on with your analysis and advice.

Wouldn't the pro's also be advertising on other sites (that you don't have to pay for membership to contact the advertisers), like Escort Babylon, Eros or even ListCrawler (and only also post on SD sites in hopes of bagging a bigger spender)?

The way hotter ones on SA that he's probably dreaming about usually look for more than 300 (usually way more). That 300 is more of an average. Of course there are also going to be the ones who'll settle for less but there are also plenty of ones on that site who I wonder why they even think they look special enough that they could hope to find some rich fool desperate enough to pay them the average rate to hang out. Of course, there's not always a direct correlation between hotness and expected rate. You can find real hotties who either don't know their real worth or who'll take less from a SD who also offers them some other appeal on the one hand and some fat pigs with ridiculously unworthy GPS who'll ask high rates and, IMHO, are living in complete Dreamland on the other.

The point is though that filtering through all that to find more affordable hotties takes some real work ... beyond just paying the membership fee. And that's not even mentioning, spotting or identifying the fakes and the scammers, not to mention the stale ads whose posters stopped bothering with the app long ago. Is it worth joining to work the system over time and hopefully make some hookups? Perhaps. Working SD sites is a numbers game. Make a couple of dozen matches and you're doing pretty well if 1 or 2 turned into worthwhile SD relationships. But is it worth joining in the hope that one out 2 or 3 or even 4 particular matches will work out, like this kid seems to? My guess is probably not.

The other thing to consider is that you're answering this kid from the perspective of an older guy who from experience has learned how to work these sites and who probably better fits the demographic of the type of guys these SB's are hoping to hook. Sure, it may work well for you and you may know how to negotiate a SB wannabe suffering with GPS down to a PPM rate you're willing to pay. But I'm not so sure this early twenty-something year old (virgin?) with near zero experience is going to be able to replicate your game.

My advice kid is to not be lured into the heavily negotiable ppm SB market that you're probably not equipped to handle but to start by getting your feet wet first in the far simpler (but still not totally simple) fixed price escort market. You'll have plenty of time to move on to SB's once you have more experience.

[Chase Star]

Depends on the level of the girl in my opinion (and if the understanding is that those meets involve some fun for you and not just a coffee). I've done 300. That's my comfort level if I'm satisfied with the quality of experience. Some girls ask for way more. The secret pros will do less.

Wouldn't the pro's also be advertising on other sites (that you don't have to pay for membership to contact the advertisers), like Escort Babylon, Eros or even ListCrawler (and only also post on SD sites in hopes of bagging a bigger spender)?

The way hotter ones on SA that he's probably dreaming about usually look for more than 300 (usually way more). That 300 is more of an average. Of course there are also going to be the ones who'll settle for less but there are also plenty of ones on that site who I wonder why they even think they look special enough that they could hope to find some rich fool desperate enough to pay them the average rate to hang out. Of course, there's not always a direct correlation between hotness and expected rate. You can find real hotties who either don't know their real worth or who'll take less from a SD who also offers them some other appeal on the one hand and some fat pigs with ridiculously unworthy GPS who'll ask high rates and, IMHO, are living in complete Dreamland on the other.

The point is though that filtering through all that to find more affordable hotties takes some real work ... beyond just paying the membership fee. And that's not even mentioning, spotting or identifying the fakes and the scammers, not to mention the stale ads whose posters stopped bothering with the app long ago. Is it worth joining to work the system over time and hopefully make some hookups? Perhaps. Working SD sites is a numbers game. Make a couple of dozen matches and you're doing pretty well if 1 or 2 turned into worthwhile SD relationships. But is it worth joining in the hope that one out 2 or 3 or even 4 particular matches will work out, like this kid seems to? My guess is probably not.

The other thing to consider is that you're answering this kid from the perspective of an older guy who from experience has learned how to work these sites and who probably better fits the demographic of the type of guys these SB's are hoping to hook. Sure, it may work well for you and you may know how to negotiate a SB wannabe suffering with GPS down to a PPM rate you're willing to pay. But I'm not so sure this early twenty-something year old (virgin?) with near zero experience is going to be able to replicate your game.

My advice kid is to not be lured into the heavily negotiable ppm SB market that you're probably not equipped to handle but to start by getting your feet wet first in the far simpler (but still not totally simple) fixed price escort market. You'll have plenty of time to move on to SB's once you have more experience.

[Tampa30]

Depends on the level of the girl in my opinion (and if the understanding is that those meets involve some fun for you and not just a coffee). I've done 300. That's my comfort level if I'm satisfied with the quality of experience. Some girls ask for way more. The secret pros will do less.

What is a good PPM rate??

[VloneCarti]

Just depends on what you are willing to spend. SA girls usually ask for way more. And make sure she is good with a PPM.

What is a good PPM rate??