Massage Parlor Reports

[BigLuber]

The owner likely has to pay rent on a 5-10 year lease, along with a business license, the marketing, and everything else that comes along with maintaining a solid business model. They also need to offer their staff some sense of security to know that they will be working in a place that has their back if something wrong should happen by a crazy client. Think in the girl provider's shoes. Would you do something like what they do, if you were a non-established visitor to work for a short period, and not have some level of security in place?

Don't forget the palm grease that is applied to the local LE or zoning officials or a neighboring business in some cases.

[Bake N Cookies]

Seems we have a lot of chatter on here about cameras at the AMP's. Here is my. 02 cents on the subject.

The spa owners and providers that work there have much more to lose than any kind of customer coming in to patronize the goods and services.

The owner likely has to pay rent on a 5-10 year lease, along with a business license, the marketing, and everything else that comes along with maintaining a solid business model. They also need to offer their staff some sense of security to know that they will be working in a place that has their back if something wrong should happen by a crazy client. Think in the girl provider's shoes. Would you do something like what they do, if you were a non-established visitor to work for a short period, and not have some level of security in place?

These ladies have their own lives and something to protect upon their own world too. A petite Mandarin girl likely has little power to defend themselves if bad situation were to occur; especially as they know that some extras may be offered with a higher risk to their status of working honorably. They are constantly approached by men, usually always much larger and stronger than they are, and as most mindful humanitarian men know, women need a sense of security to feel comfortable with just about any kind of personal level activities.

I'm a business owner myself, though certainly not owning a spa. If I did, I would want to protect my $ generating staff, just as I would with the Workman's Comp and safety gear I provide for the operations that is upon my business model.

Aside from some opinions here on recent posts, the cameras are there for protecting their own operation; in many more ways than one.

Nobody gives a tick's turd about who came and went. Unless there was a problem.

I doubt anyone here on this site would be one of those involved upon creating an issue, as we want the goods to continue; thus we share to each other.

Should a random crazy guy / gal enter and do something really stupid, you fill in the blanks, then the biz owner will have something on record to deal with that isolated situation. As its a grey area for the transactions, there is little anyone can do for civil case on a rip off. Yet just as casinos have facial recognition systems, they could have a log of those that caused problems. As a PG rated version. Consider one that wanted all their money back for the house fee because the shower water didn't get hot enough. Bad customer now. Maybe offer the refund though save the photo for a "do not service" file in the future for down the road. Just like counting cards upon blackjack is not illegal, but they can ask you not to return again at their sole discretion.

If a super rare LEO situation were to happen, their is a burden of proof to behold that all acts were legal for a massage. Definitely only pay in cash, if this situation is a concern. Above that, it would be even more rare to have digital files investigated, unless it was possibly a trafficking thing with minors, or some BS like that. I doubt a storefront business owner would take a risk on anything related to a Fed investigation. Bottom line is that the place just want's to make money and stay in business within a model of safety.

As advice for the germaphobes, or camera phobes, just wear a mask upon entry if this twitches your undies too much.

Otherwise,

Realize that these kind of records are best meant to be deleted after the period "no issue" by the biz owner.

As an added note, I figure we will see more talent taking care of us, if they feel safe doing so.

[HD Murdock]

I was also there today to see Bella. The headshots have disappeared from the monitors this time around. I saw them on Helen's first day here about 2 weeks ago. Maybe they have been getting some feedback about it.

Monitors? How many do they have? Have you seen all of them?

[AlexInF8]

You just saw Eva. Great option if you're in the market for a great massage and just a HE. I have had providers in the past turn lights down, usually in HE parlors only.

Yep that was her. Seemed a bit skittish at first. After I caressed her leg, I think she realized I am not the "fuzz" and got much friskier. Nice location.

[RiotStar]

This will give birth to a new era of mongering. We will be fully masked with a helmet butt naked while getting a bbj and FS. Until the new age of camera to detect / identity who we are with out little head. Oh god kikeo will kick me out so fast for this.

I've been doing that since the pandemic. Some Orlando spas do the same thing minus the specific head shot thing.

Spas like King and ND have monitors since Thomas Kraft decided to be an idiot. Coco spa is affiliated and also have them. Thats why wear a mask.

[FootyFanatic14]

There are headshots.

Or rather.

I have seen head shots on the side of the screen and I have seen them stay well after the person left. That was perhaps a few weeks ago. I did not see them today.

I was also there today to see Bella. The headshots have disappeared from the monitors this time around. I saw them on Helen's first day here about 2 weeks ago. Maybe they have been getting some feedback about it.

[FootyFanatic14]

Had a nice massage with a HE at Royal spa Was not looking for anything else. Girl was in her 30's nice rack An hour long massage was 70 plus I tipped her 40. Have not had much exp with AMP is turning lights way down after the flip SOP?

You just saw Eva. Great option if you're in the market for a great massage and just a HE. I have had providers in the past turn lights down, usually in HE parlors only.

[AlexInF8]

Had a nice massage with a HE at Royal spa Was not looking for anything else. Girl was in her 30's nice rack An hour long massage was 70 plus I tipped her 40. Have not had much exp with AMP is turning lights way down after the flip SOP?

[CrackerJoe]

Chances are their cameras capturing customer's faces are stored and recorded in the cloud.

This will give birth to a new era of mongering. We will be fully masked with a helmet butt naked while getting a bbj and FS. Until the new age of camera to detect / identity who we are with out little head. Oh god kikeo will kick me out so fast for this.

[HookerDink]

I work in the IT and security industry. I can tell you without a doubt, VHS tapes are no longer used and they have not been in this country for oh, 10-15 years. All of this footage can and is most likely stored on a large hard drive locally and most likely is backed up to a cloud server.

All of this footage is subject to subpoena if a the really wants it to be and there is no recourse for the owner. "Blackmail" would be the least of your worries. Using cash, not parking in the front. Won't make a bit of difference as face recognition technology is pretty spot on today.

And to the ones denying the headshots, the monitor in the TS room shows it clearly. Your face captured for all to see as well as the last four other patrons displayed in a single column on the right hand side of the monitor.

Maybe this is shown to deter a scumbag, or who knows but its up to them to have this and place. And its my choice not to go back. No hot piece of ass will have me coming back there with that shit in place. Sorry.

They didn't use VHS tapes 20 years ago for this either. DATs. Every day.

But even if it is being stored, that storage isn't permanent. They won't pay for that.

[HookerDink]

I'll repeat my self one more time. There are no Head Shots on the monitors at this spa. Jonnie.

There are headshots.

Or rather.

I have seen head shots on the side of the screen and I have seen them stay well after the person left. That was perhaps a few weeks ago. I did not see them today.

[DahBull]

I have been to a few spas and try to identify the camera's and recorders they use. I have seen DwMax Flex type recorders with 8 to 12 cameras and have seen some with smaller setups (like the ones from Costco / Harbor Freight etc.). A majority of them are DIY jobs and not much effort has been made to conceal wiring (without). Some are wireless too but those are too few. The reason I got into it and studying them is because I have a side business and do this kind of work time to time.

Stay safe.

DB.

[HD Murdock]

The system takes automated screencaps of a customer's head as you walk in. They are all lined up on the right side of the screen from top to bottom. If you are concerned, you can always wear a mask until you get through the first door. It's for their safety, Dream Girl Spa down in Hialeah had someone break in and rape one of the girls there. Seven Star barely had any cameras when they first started so they went for a pretty robust system.

Chances are their cameras capturing customer's faces are stored and recorded in the cloud.

[CoolBreeze99]

Not especially. As they likely aren't keeping them.

My guess would be that they last about a week. Most places that have cameras have a limted number of tapes to hold all the stuff they film. It takes up a lot of space to hold movies. So they usually have about a weeks worth of tapes, and every mondday the tape labeled "Monday" goes in the machine and records. This way if they are robbed they have a week to report it and keep the film etc.

So my guess is they aren't keeping it, why would they. If its a sting, they violated the law by letting us do whatever we do. Would the blackmail you? Maybe but they would be exposing themselves to trouble too. What are they going to do say "I own a massage parlor where you can get a rub and tug, and these people got one" that's not going to happen.

Worse case is if the cops bust the place, but even then, if you are using cash and not parking in front you should be ok.

I work in the IT and security industry. I can tell you without a doubt, VHS tapes are no longer used and they have not been in this country for oh, 10-15 years. All of this footage can and is most likely stored on a large hard drive locally and most likely is backed up to a cloud server.

All of this footage is subject to subpoena if a the really wants it to be and there is no recourse for the owner. "Blackmail" would be the least of your worries. Using cash, not parking in the front. Won't make a bit of difference as face recognition technology is pretty spot on today.

And to the ones denying the headshots, the monitor in the TS room shows it clearly. Your face captured for all to see as well as the last four other patrons displayed in a single column on the right hand side of the monitor.

Maybe this is shown to deter a scumbag, or who knows but its up to them to have this and place. And its my choice not to go back. No hot piece of ass will have me coming back there with that shit in place. Sorry.

[Jonnie95]

The system takes automated screencaps of a customer's head as you walk in. They are all lined up on the right side of the screen from top to bottom. If you are concerned, you can always wear a mask until you get through the first door. It's for their safety, Dream Girl Spa down in Hialeah had someone break in and rape one of the girls there. Seven Star barely had any cameras when they first started so they went for a pretty robust system.

I'll repeat my self one more time. There are no Head Shots on the monitors at this spa. Jonnie.