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  1. #5127
    Quote Originally Posted by Grven3  [View Original Post]
    I haven't found it unusual to charge extra for BBFS. Like an extra 20-40 I'm ok with, I figure they are taking more of a risk, if I CIP, its more of a mess to clean up and I'm no expert but I don't think its too healthy to always be flushing out that area. That's assuming they bother to clean up at all though.

    I see your point with one who advertises openly, but I don't see how an upcharge would indicate anything about their their health / brains, etc. If anything, I assume the girls that charge a ton just really don't want to do it, so they're probably being the safest.
    Me not paying an upcharge has nothing to do with their brains / health. It has to do with me not letting them get any extra out of me. When they say upcharge I say no thank you let's just do it this way I will stick to my regular girl next time and won't be seeing you again. Almost 100% of the time they then do the BBFS for the original price. An extra 20 or 50 or whatever is not going to break the bank but I just don't do upcharges or upsells. IMO they are getting a good deal to begin with since I pay their prices if they are not anything crazy. On the flip side I am not one of these dummies who goes to a legit well reviewed girl who charges say 200/ hr and say what can I get for 20 bucks.

    But I did see a girl once who wanted to charge me 150 extra for BBFS. She said she had to because what if I gave her something. I said hon, if I have something, me giving you an extra 150 is not going to protect you from getting it and walked away. My thought was if she was being serious than she is a dummy who would risk getting something for a few extra bucks. No thank you. Now if she had stated your reasons, which are legit, then I could respect that. I still wouldn't pay the extra but at least it was a valid reason.

  2. #5126
    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    I can only go by my own experiences. Seen around 300 different girls in almost 10 years. Some of these were just for blowjobs. Around 150 were BBFS. So I am guessing that of all that I had actual sex with probably 75% did BBFS. Not all of them did it the first time as the smart girls build up trust first. A lot of factors go into whether they BBFS or not such as how clean you show up, if you are good looking, seem like a good repeat client etc. I ignore any who openly offer BBFS or say they will do it for more money.

    You are right. Some guys won't do any bare even for a BJ. If that works for them they are lucky as that is the smartest way to play.

    This particular girl is a hard pass for me since she seems to be offering it to anyone openly and looks like a streetwalker to me. I don't play with these types for my own health. I wish all girls and mongers would stick to their own lanes but this is sex and people don't think much too often. It is what it is. I've done stupid things at times but have been lucky. Just try to use your brain.
    I haven't found it unusual to charge extra for BBFS. Like an extra 20-40 I'm ok with, I figure they are taking more of a risk, if I CIP, its more of a mess to clean up and I'm no expert but I don't think its too healthy to always be flushing out that area. That's assuming they bother to clean up at all though.

    I see your point with one who advertises openly, but I don't see how an upcharge would indicate anything about their their health / brains, etc. If anything, I assume the girls that charge a ton just really don't want to do it, so they're probably being the safest.

  3. #5125
    Quote Originally Posted by Grven3  [View Original Post]
    I suppose it is possible one who advertises it will do it more. Who knows what percentage a girl does BB with. Some guys will never do it, some it is a deal breaker. I was more curious about the difference in photos.
    I can only go by my own experiences. Seen around 300 different girls in almost 10 years. Some of these were just for blowjobs. Around 150 were BBFS. So I am guessing that of all that I had actual sex with probably 75% did BBFS. Not all of them did it the first time as the smart girls build up trust first. A lot of factors go into whether they BBFS or not such as how clean you show up, if you are good looking, seem like a good repeat client etc. I ignore any who openly offer BBFS or say they will do it for more money.

    You are right. Some guys won't do any bare even for a BJ. If that works for them they are lucky as that is the smartest way to play.

    This particular girl is a hard pass for me since she seems to be offering it to anyone openly and looks like a streetwalker to me. I don't play with these types for my own health. I wish all girls and mongers would stick to their own lanes but this is sex and people don't think much too often. It is what it is. I've done stupid things at times but have been lucky. Just try to use your brain.

  4. #5124
    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    I tend to avoid any women who call bb a fetish just on principle.

    I can't say 100% but I think the ad means just no to the drama so expect a lot of drama.

    That being said this girl basically looks like a streetwalker who is trying to get escort prices. I would guess bb anything is acceptable here and personally would avoid anything bb with this one if she is openly advertising it. Most girls will bb anything but don't announce it because they are smart enough not to if the guy looks like he spent the last 5 years in a whorehouse bare backing everything in sight. I prefer a girl who may BBFS over half the guys she meets but doesn't pre announce she will because she is smart enough not to with the ones who nobody should if that makes any sense.
    I suppose it is possible one who advertises it will do it more. Who knows what percentage a girl does BB with. Some guys will never do it, some it is a deal breaker. I was more curious about the difference in photos.

  5. #5123
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeWarmWater3  [View Original Post]
    The add says.

    NO drama NO.

    Bbfetishes welcome?

    Does that mean no drama or does it include bb fetishes and it ended up posting that way?
    I tend to avoid any women who call bb a fetish just on principle.

    I can't say 100% but I think the ad means just no to the drama so expect a lot of drama.

    That being said this girl basically looks like a streetwalker who is trying to get escort prices. I would guess bb anything is acceptable here and personally would avoid anything bb with this one if she is openly advertising it. Most girls will bb anything but don't announce it because they are smart enough not to if the guy looks like he spent the last 5 years in a whorehouse bare backing everything in sight. I prefer a girl who may BBFS over half the guys she meets but doesn't pre announce she will because she is smart enough not to with the ones who nobody should if that makes any sense.

  6. #5122
    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyDiscreet  [View Original Post]
    Someone else recently in SNJ had the same line (written the same way too) at the end of the profile "Bbfetishes welcome" it wasn't the one in your link. Prob a handler writing it but you never know.
    The add says.

    NO drama NO.

    Bbfetishes welcome?

    Does that mean no drama or does it include bb fetishes and it ended up posting that way?

  7. #5121
    Quote Originally Posted by Grven3  [View Original Post]
    Any reports on carmen? https://cherry-hill.skipthegames.com...c/213965551330.

    Didn't find anything in search.
    Someone else recently in SNJ had the same line (written the same way too) at the end of the profile "Bbfetishes welcome" it wasn't the one in your link. Prob a handler writing it but you never know.

  8. #5120
    Quote Originally Posted by Grven3  [View Original Post]
    Any reports on carmen? https://cherry-hill.skipthegames.com...c/213965551330.

    Didn't find anything in search.
    Same Question I wonder about rates for Greek.

  9. #5119
    Any reports on carmen? https://cherry-hill.skipthegames.com...c/213965551330.

    Didn't find anything in search.

  10. #5118

    Way too many times?

    How about 100% of the time, I don't know about anybody else but paying a deposit is always, 100% of the time, a rip off.

    With all due respect to you and your previous experiences, anybody paying $20, no matter the hurdles cleared, is continuing and perpetuating the "pay a deposit upfront" rip off scheme. I am not delusional in thinking that is every monger reading this board would stop paying deposits, the scheme would go away. There are way too many Non board mongers out there but they need to learn their own lesson $20 at a time.

    I too spent $25 one time and it only took one time for me to learn my lesson. It's best if everyone took the same approach which is to say, I will pay when I see you and not a second before. United we stand, at least make the provider earn their money.

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeWarmWater3  [View Original Post]
    I'd consider like I said maybe $20. If I get ghosted before I ever leave my house than I know I haven't wasted my time driving wherever! Only way in ever considering that is if she clears a lot of hurdles first. Way to many times deposits are just a rip off.

  11. #5117
    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't even do that bro and strongly suggest that no noob or even seasoned veteran do that. I've seen obvious scam ads where the "girl" asks for a small token deposit of that amount. I am not giving anything to some dude throwing up a scam ad. Heck throw up enough ads all over the country and use different pics if you are smart and if just 5 dummies fall for it all around the country that is an easy $100 a day. I think that many would fall for it in just one city. I suspect there are people making a great living doing this full time. So all the dummies out there are basically making some scammer live large. Scammers are smart. They know we can get desperate. We have all been in a last resort situation when all our preferred choices fall thru and we settle on some crap girl and end up having a bad call. We have all been there and it happened to us even in the good days 5, 10 years ago. With deposits you don't even have the pleasure of having a shit call where at least you probably got off a cumshot.

    Legit girls do it too. They will give you a great call if you say no to a deposit. But when you send a deposit you are ghosted. There is a girl who posts on STG in central jersey I have seen several times I have reviewed and gave me great calls. Her reviews on a popular site are all good except for the ones who sent deposits. All of them got ripped off. Why do even legit girls do this? Easy, you gave them the opportunity. If you are ripped off what are you going to do? You could call the cops and probably get the girl arrested. Her name will appear in the local newspaper and guess what. So will yours. This is why most guys will never call the cops. You can give her a bad review and warn others as you should. But even that will not hurt them that much. How many of us have seen girls who have had prior bad reviews? I know I have and have often had great calls. I know others have as well. Some we won't dare see. But if the monger made a stupid move we know never to do we will often see that girl and have a great call because we aren't as stupid as the guy who did something stupid to get ripped off.

    Guys, it is better to just call it a day and go fuck your wife or jerk off than to do anything out of desperation in this hobby because people are out there just waiting for you to be stupid. It's the nature of things since the dawn of time. Play smart bros.
    I completely agree with you on this! My comment was more aimed at the previous post taking about a girl wanting half up front! IF I happen across one that checks most of the boxes, I'd consider like I said maybe $20. If I get ghosted before I ever leave my house than I know I haven't wasted my time driving wherever! Only way in ever considering that is if she clears a lot of hurdles first. Way to many times deposits are just a rip off.

  12. #5116
    Quote Originally Posted by FunSaMale  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone share her number please hit my inbox.
    PM me her number too please. Want to see her long time.

  13. #5115
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeWarmWater3  [View Original Post]
    I'd consider $20 at the outside! As a last resort Not a penny more.
    I wouldn't even do that bro and strongly suggest that no noob or even seasoned veteran do that. I've seen obvious scam ads where the "girl" asks for a small token deposit of that amount. I am not giving anything to some dude throwing up a scam ad. Heck throw up enough ads all over the country and use different pics if you are smart and if just 5 dummies fall for it all around the country that is an easy $100 a day. I think that many would fall for it in just one city. I suspect there are people making a great living doing this full time. So all the dummies out there are basically making some scammer live large. Scammers are smart. They know we can get desperate. We have all been in a last resort situation when all our preferred choices fall thru and we settle on some crap girl and end up having a bad call. We have all been there and it happened to us even in the good days 5, 10 years ago. With deposits you don't even have the pleasure of having a shit call where at least you probably got off a cumshot.

    Legit girls do it too. They will give you a great call if you say no to a deposit. But when you send a deposit you are ghosted. There is a girl who posts on STG in central jersey I have seen several times I have reviewed and gave me great calls. Her reviews on a popular site are all good except for the ones who sent deposits. All of them got ripped off. Why do even legit girls do this? Easy, you gave them the opportunity. If you are ripped off what are you going to do? You could call the cops and probably get the girl arrested. Her name will appear in the local newspaper and guess what. So will yours. This is why most guys will never call the cops. You can give her a bad review and warn others as you should. But even that will not hurt them that much. How many of us have seen girls who have had prior bad reviews? I know I have and have often had great calls. I know others have as well. Some we won't dare see. But if the monger made a stupid move we know never to do we will often see that girl and have a great call because we aren't as stupid as the guy who did something stupid to get ripped off.

    Guys, it is better to just call it a day and go fuck your wife or jerk off than to do anything out of desperation in this hobby because people are out there just waiting for you to be stupid. It's the nature of things since the dawn of time. Play smart bros.

  14. #5114

    Summer in Deptford

    I know some of you warned me about EB, but she only seems to post there. Search results don't come up with much. Just mentions of the word summer (which is also her "name") she's responsive but takes a while. Can only meet up after 2:30 pm. Any intel would be great.

    Thank you.

    https://www.escortbabylon.net/review_list/8563786593

  15. #5113
    Quote Originally Posted by TailGunner1  [View Original Post]
    What Kenny said. Never pre pay unless you want to get ripped off. Move along and find something else.
    I'd consider $20 at the outside! As a last resort Not a penny more.

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