Non Pro's

**DrTraveler** · 04-24-22 15:14

Hi all -.

SDM just isn't cutting it! It is fine and there are a few women who are DTF, but SA is vastly superior. Has anyone had luck with customer service arguing a ban? Or is there a new trick to get around their tracking? I'd be VERY grateful for some insights, feel free to PM me. I can offer specific intel on several women who are still on the site (and share memories of dozens who have moved on). Thank you!

**MyNickname** · 04-23-22 21:36

Let's face it, one part of the problem are those who give gps allowances (I think these guys are a minority in quantity) BUT the other part are those tik tok, youtube, podcasts etc where young women talk crazy things about being SBs and getting ridiculous amounts of money just to say hi to a SD.

These women are painting a non existing reality for women that later go to SA using those ideas as the way reality is with a SD.

Also, I firmly belive these women saying online the GPS bunch of lies have actually never been a SB.

Originally Posted by Spacehog [View Original Post]

I've found the few times I've been on there a handful of women willing to do $300 but the GPS is stupid high here. The good news is the chances of a recession is pretty good and that could lead to lower prices if a lot of the guys making 100 to 200 k a year start getting laid off and now can't pay these girls stupid amounts of money.

**Spacehog** · 04-23-22 19:03

Originally Posted by MrLarryDong [View Original Post]

Hey guys,

Looking to get back in the game after a year and change off. Want to see the general consensus of the success rate people are having and if it's even worth it.

I can say about 2 years ago, it was mostly a waste of time. I was able to bag one chick that was young and cute but it took a lot of work to find her, and she later ghosted me. She was really ideal too but if I didn't find her, I'd say it wasn't worth it (it barely was even with this chick).

I'm in my late 30's so I think I'm in the younger crowd of SD. Anyone thinks this makes a difference in success rate? Or is it all about the money? I would never offer more than 4 for PPM so I think that was an issue too, a lot of GPS, I'm assuming that's still the case. But I am looking for good looking girls, not old fat women looking to be anyone's cum dumpster. I'm not looking for a unicorn either but if it sounds like I am, please let me know so I can lower expectations or possibly avoid the SB / SD game for the time being.

I've found the few times I've been on there a handful of women willing to do $300 but the GPS is stupid high here. The good news is the chances of a recession is pretty good and that could lead to lower prices if a lot of the guys making 100 to 200 k a year start getting laid off and now can't pay these girls stupid amounts of money.

**Marko Ramius** · 04-23-22 12:55

Originally Posted by MrLarryDong [View Original Post]

Hey guys,

Looking to get back in the game after a year and change off. Want to see the general consensus of the success rate people are having and if it's even worth it.

I can say about 2 years ago, it was mostly a waste of time. I was able to bag one chick that was young and cute but it took a lot of work to find her, and she later ghosted me. She was really ideal too but if I didn't find her, I'd say it wasn't worth it (it barely was even with this chick).

I'm in my late 30's so I think I'm in the younger crowd of SD. Anyone thinks this makes a difference in success rate? Or is it all about the money? I would never offer more than 4 for PPM so I think that was an issue too, a lot of GPS, I'm assuming that's still the case. But I am looking for good looking girls, not old fat women looking to be anyone's cum dumpster. I'm not looking for a unicorn either but if it sounds like I am, please let me know so I can lower expectations or possibly avoid the SB / SD game for the time being.

You shouldn't have a problem if you are patient and understand the game.

Keep in mind that you should expect that about 90 percent of the profiles you see are either fake, have wildly unrealistic expectations, are grossly unsuitable, or just plain unappealing. That still leaves a lot of opportunities so have some patience with yourself.

My own experience is that if you are staying in a pretty nice hotel (I don't live in Seattle) and take them to a high-end restaurant four times out of five you will be taking her to pound town that night. You make it easier for them to decide that if you are reasonably attractive and fit.

Also a lot of these girls kind of freak out about what they are doing and what they did for money, so it isn't surprising if they sometimes ghost you. Again if you make it easy for them the odds of that happening go down.

**Fantasy Man J** · 04-23-22 10:45

Originally Posted by MrLarryDong [View Original Post]

Hey guys,

Looking to get back in the game after a year and change off. Want to see the general consensus of the success rate people are having and if it's even worth it.

I can say about 2 years ago, it was mostly a waste of time. I was able to bag one chick that was young and cute but it took a lot of work to find her, and she later ghosted me. She was really ideal too but if I didn't find her, I'd say it wasn't worth it (it barely was even with this chick).

I'm in my late 30's so I think I'm in the younger crowd of SD. Anyone thinks this makes a difference in success rate? Or is it all about the money? I would never offer more than 4 for PPM so I think that was an issue too, a lot of GPS, I'm assuming that's still the case. But I am looking for good looking girls, not old fat women looking to be anyone's cum dumpster. I'm not looking for a unicorn either but if it sounds like I am, please let me know so I can lower expectations or possibly avoid the SB / SD game for the time being.

The Seattle area is tough. Branch out to surrounding cities / states and you will yield better results. In some areas in the US, you can find 500 for a whole weekend with a hot coed. YMMV depending on location.

Don't lower your expectations but modify your game a little bit. I always wine and dine potential SBs and they seem to get more invested. I don't bother with discussing a PPM until the very last moment and only if it's brought up by the SB. Not sure where in the process you are failing but if there's a pattern then change up your tactics.

**TnaPorter** · 04-23-22 01:46

Originally Posted by MrLarryDong [View Original Post]

I'm in my late 30's so I think I'm in the younger crowd of SD. Anyone thinks this makes a difference in success rate? Or is it all about the money? I would never offer more than 4 for PPM so I think that was an issue too, a lot of GPS, I'm assuming that's still the case. But I am looking for good looking girls, not old fat women looking to be anyone's cum dumpster. I'm not looking for a unicorn either but if it sounds like I am, please let me know so I can lower expectations or possibly avoid the SB / SD game for the time being.

So much of what you asked about varies from person to person. Like there are some women that guys here call really hot that I just don't find attractive. And at the same time, my favorite SB is a girl that some guys here said was "not worth it" when they discussed her asking price. I think being younger and fit definitely helps, so that's in your favor, but you do have to have some money and conversation skills as well if you want to secure lower rates and better service. I think your limit of $4 gets plenty great looking SBs and in fact, if you have enough game to get them to like you a little, then it's easy to get away with $2 or less as time goes on.

But at the same time, I think about how some SBs have complained to me that the guys with the most money are the ones who want a 5'10" blonde super model so maybe they're talking about you here? There's no way to know if your expectations are too high because of the huge variety of women that men will call "attractive". I will say this though -- if you honestly think that you're doing your best to seduce these women and you find that $4 doesn't get you anything you want to have all the time, then you might be right in thinking that this isn't for you because while I think that that's plenty of ammo to get whatever you want, perhaps the truth is that I just like ugly girls.

**Baddaddy2021** · 04-23-22 00:36

Originally Posted by PoonHound1969 [View Original Post]

She is a fun, older MILF that is DTF, very reasonable to. Be warned if you have any skill in the sack she will soak your bed.

If either your dick or your fingers function in the least, grab a couple of extra towel, LOL.

**MrLarryDong** · 04-22-22 16:24

Hey guys,

Looking to get back in the game after a year and change off. Want to see the general consensus of the success rate people are having and if it's even worth it.

I can say about 2 years ago, it was mostly a waste of time. I was able to bag one chick that was young and cute but it took a lot of work to find her, and she later ghosted me. She was really ideal too but if I didn't find her, I'd say it wasn't worth it (it barely was even with this chick).

I'm in my late 30's so I think I'm in the younger crowd of SD. Anyone thinks this makes a difference in success rate? Or is it all about the money? I would never offer more than 4 for PPM so I think that was an issue too, a lot of GPS, I'm assuming that's still the case. But I am looking for good looking girls, not old fat women looking to be anyone's cum dumpster. I'm not looking for a unicorn either but if it sounds like I am, please let me know so I can lower expectations or possibly avoid the SB / SD game for the time being.

**ScoobyBoo** · 04-22-22 02:21

Originally Posted by BugManLet [View Original Post]

I met her in the Bremerton area. She's real, but it was 18 months ago I saw her so don't know what has transpired. Let us know how it turns out if you go through with it.

Yup she is real and hosts in her duplex or Quadplex apartment. Fun and beautiful.