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  1. #14722
    I have had plenty of strippers tell me mostly sad things about their "brother" and we all know who they are really talking about when they mention their "brother".

  2. #14721

    Real Dancers of Detroit

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.

    So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.

    Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.

    You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on..
    Yeah, I think this gets it pretty right. I spend way too much time hanging out in the clubs, and have gotten more than casually acquainted with dozens of dancers. Sure there are exceptions, but as a rule they live in a fantasy world with no sense of responsibility and a very strong sense of entitlement. I've known a few that were only slightly naive when they started, but they ended up with the same attitude before long. I don't judge anyone for the choices they make, as long as they don't affect me, but either they're flawed when they start at the clubs and that's what drove them there, or they loose all touch with real world responsibilities pretty quickly once they get in.

    I've known a few that made it out and into normal life, and kudos to them, it couldn't have been easy. But I've known damn near as many whose benefits I contributed to after they OD'ed. And that's just too fucking sad.

  3. #14720
    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.

    So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.

    Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.

    You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.

    Be safe out there, Checkers.
    This.

    And any STG advertiser too.

  4. #14719

    What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.

    So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.

    Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.

    You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.

    Be safe out there, Checkers.
    I have known all variations of dancers over the years some just on a "business" basis some more so "personal" and many mixed with a lusty love of both. Percentage wise probably 25%-30% made it in the real world mostly as RNS or LPNS. A few in real estate where they decide their schedules and 3 as teachers (who actually were working their way through college when I met them) Sure, a lot of them are very "independent" and unreliable but they aren't all painted with the same brush.

  5. #14718
    Quote Originally Posted by Checkers123  [View Original Post]
    JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.

    So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.

    Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.

    You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.
    That's a real cynical point of view from a guy that knows. 0001% of strippers. What a warped mindset to categorize all or most of the women who strip in that light. Newsflash smart guy you don't see or meet the other type cause there not going to do any extras ever. Smfh like all strippers go into VIP an strip for years.

  6. #14717
    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSteve666  [View Original Post]
    Good question. Personally I'd say I've interacted with more who seemed to be fairly articulate, maybe in school, has a day job, have other life aspirations than those who are so irresponsible they couldn't function anywhere else. No doubt there are some who will go no further but the dwindling population of dancers says they are going elsewhere and apparently doing well enough at something else.
    JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.

    So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.

    Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.

    You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.

    Be safe out there, Checkers.

  7. #14716
    Quote Originally Posted by Trvlr5  [View Original Post]
    Is this a recent change? I've been there many times, and never had an issue. In winter athletic wear is all I ever wear.

    Anyplace that wants me to dress up to spend my money, I'll go somewhere else.
    As of last year I went in with sweatpants and had to at least have on khakis or jeans.

  8. #14715
    Quote Originally Posted by JulesJordan  [View Original Post]
    They had seventeen dancers with a full house of customers. Buffy, Cash, Chocolate, Dior, Kitty, Pixie, Remy, Roxanne, Shay, Snowflake, Spanky, and Tasha were some names. Not a bad looking lineup this evening. Listed below are dancers that I've sampled. The first half was uncovered with all except one.

    Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, medium build, and has a nice backside. She provided a mediocre session here earlier this year. I wouldn't repeat.

    Chocolate is mid-20's, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a thin build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here earlier this year. I might repeat again.

    Pixie is 20 ish, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a spinner build. She provided a worthwhile session here last year. I would repeat if the first half was uncovered, which she still wouldn't do the last time I inquired.

    Remy aka Naudia is 30 ish, white, dark hair, A-cup tits, nice backside, and a smaller build. She provided a worthwhile session at Bogart's in 2016. When we spoke last year, she indicated that I had to finish within three songs. Given that constraint, I wouldn't repeat.

    Shay is mid-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, tall, and an athletic build. We did two sessions at the Criket last year. Our first time was worthwhile, but the second wasn't. I wouldn't repeat again.

    Snowflake is early-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, nice backside, and a thin build. Despite having to tell her to slow down at the beginning, she provided a worthwhile session today. I might repeat with this little Flight Club punk.

    Total damage tonight was 185 for cover charge, two beers, VIP fee, and dances.
    I bumped into Cash not too long ago at Henry's day shift and liked her. She's tiny with a real nice ass to grab onto. I hadn't seen her again daytime the few times I've been back since, so good to know she does nighttime.

  9. #14714

    SC athletic wear

    Quote Originally Posted by BoobiesMan  [View Original Post]
    Found out Sc doesn't allow athletic wear and bouncer is a scammer. Before paying I asked if my clothing was ok. He said yeah. I handed him a twenty and waited for a ten back. He wouldn't give it to me. Then he said the pants weren't ok but he'd let me in. I asked if he was charging me ten bucks for the pants. He just repeated imma let you in, 5 times. I couldn't get him to say he was charging me for athletic pants. Classic asshole grifter talk. I cut my losses and left after half a beer. I didn't want to discover any other scams. Not worth escalation.
    Is this a recent change? I've been there many times, and never had an issue. In winter athletic wear is all I ever wear.

    Anyplace that wants me to dress up to spend my money, I'll go somewhere else.

  10. #14713

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by DooMama7  [View Original Post]
    Any club in Dearborn or Romulus.
    Not a problem. I will have a car.

  11. #14712

    Silver cricket dress code scam

    Quote Originally Posted by DooMama7  [View Original Post]
    At the dive bars (HVIII and Bogarts) you can wear what you want. Silver Cricket, Flight Club, BT's and Landing Strip have a dress code, either no jeans and street wear / shorts or business casual.
    Found out Sc doesn't allow athletic wear and bouncer is a scammer. Before paying I asked if my clothing was ok. He said yeah. I handed him a twenty and waited for a ten back. He wouldn't give it to me. Then he said the pants weren't ok but he'd let me in. I asked if he was charging me ten bucks for the pants. He just repeated imma let you in, 5 times. I couldn't get him to say he was charging me for athletic pants. Classic asshole grifter talk. I cut my losses and left after half a beer. I didn't want to discover any other scams. Not worth escalation.

  12. #14711

    Just be careful with that

    Quote Originally Posted by Random37  [View Original Post]
    Looking for good GFE providing dancers if that's even a real thing, as it doesn't seem like it thus far. As always thanks gents.
    Little head made the calls the last time I did that and I came home from BT's with something that required a shot to fix.

  13. #14710
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotsoffun201  [View Original Post]
    I'll be back home in Detroit after a few years at the end of the month. I'd like to scratch a middle eastern dancer or two off my bucket list. Is there any current intel on where I may find one or two? I figured BT's is probably my best bet, but if anyone has some firsthand knowledge I'd appreciate it. Extras friendly preferable or even OTC, but I know that's highly unlikely.

    Feel free to PM if you don't want to answer publicly.

    TIA.
    Nyra at BT's in Dearborn is from Iran however I did not sample as she did state she has a deep pussy. Just was not my type and was interested in a different dancer that was Puerto Rican but that ended up just being a GPS that offered 500 nude dances.

  14. #14709
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotsoffun201  [View Original Post]
    I'll be back home in Detroit after a few years at the end of the month. I'd like to scratch a middle eastern dancer or two off my bucket list. Is there any current intel on where I may find one or two? I figured BT's is probably my best bet, but if anyone has some firsthand knowledge I'd appreciate it. Extras friendly preferable or even OTC, but I know that's highly unlikely.

    Feel free to PM if you don't want to answer publicly.

    TIA.
    Any club in Dearborn or Romulus.

  15. #14708
    Senior Member


    Posts: 157

    Consider this.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSteve666  [View Original Post]
    I can't imagine this work being anyone's first choice. Once other choices become available, who wouldn't leave? In this post pandemic world, we've seen a lot of industries doing more to attract and retain workers. I can't say for certain, but I doubt the clubs are doing more to attract and retain dancers. They'll continue to lose dancers because they don't adjust. They are the lifeblood of the clubs, no one goes there to listen to the dj. Instead of tipping them out to death, maybe they should get a cut of the ridiculous cover charges and VIP fees we pay.
    Think about the money a great dancer brings in, and yet there are no women club owners. When I was a bouncer, I knew a girl who could bring $3 k on a Tuesday, but NEVER had anything to show for it. Rented a garbage spot to live, didn't have a car, no kids. But she spent money on hair, nails and jewelry. If she had a habit, she hid it well. She eventually aged out of the game and married one of her regulars. Lasted a little over a year. At 42, she tried to return to dancing and realized she would make the same money as she did when she was in her late 20's / early 30's. She rented a long stay hotel room and turned tricks out of that. Died of a heart attack while turning a trick at age 46. Some women think they are young and desirable until they're not, all the while spending money with both hands and a foot. Some wake up. But are not satisfied with the life they have. Some are fortunate and get a 9 to 5 through the years of contacts they've made. Some turn to self medication. Some get arrested. But I find very few are smart about it. You'd think at least one of them would be entrepreneurial. The biggest loophole is that of bachelor parties (a dancer put me up on that). No raids (unless really noisy or fights); no liquor license (buy and give away cheap liquor, but collect an entry fee); increase profit by selling raffle tickets with a private show from specific girls as prizes (give them a cut from the drawing); You have to have your own security (I've found off duty LEO who are friends work best); CHECK THE I'd OF EVERY DANCER NO EXCEPTION! The hardest part for me was securing a safe and large enough location. The dancers were the best advertisement to get dancers (at first they tried to be greedy, but quickly realized there were too many swinging d!cks to handle); competition between the girls meant a good time by all. Later on, I realized that selling tickets and cashing them out for the girls removed the issue of money for entertainment.

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