Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Twisted69** · 04-18-22 13:43

Originally Posted by RE1975 [View Original Post]

Kind of ironic that Steve was the subject of beratement on here a few days ago from a would-be provider who didn't care much for him; just makes you wonder at the coincidence. That would be a shame.

My guess is they established dates with several girls to prove he was the wizard behind the curtain and then busted him. There is no way they looked up his website and said hey let's just arrest him. I would also guess during that time they watched others go in and out as well!! Goes back to don't say anything if you get questioned! I do know prior to the pandemic, from a talkative intoxicated officer one night at a bar that he said they (nky cooperating agencies) have access to infrared cameras and laser mics. So who knows how this might play out. Be safe.

**WoodFordR69** · 04-18-22 12:51

Originally Posted by Chunks92 [View Original Post]

Really none of its anonymous bro, if they want to find out something, they are going to find out what they are looking for. None of it will hold up in court let alone make its way into court unless you are contacting a live sting ad, or are a high ranking official that someone is going after their job like that west virginia senator, and he was in an extremely low crime county with nothing better to do. And even then it didn't hold up in court. The only problem you're going to run into is if you're married or have a significant other or some shit like that, like hypothetically they call your home phone and then your wife figures out or something to that effect and an argument ensues. But even then you're not going to court, that guy was a senator, we are peons. they have a hard enough time getting charges to stick on the dudes that DO show up to the operations. Easy solution to all of this? Don't get married.

If I'm reading the penalty section of KY Laws, the max fine for a john is going to be $250. They are not likely going to spend a bunch of investigation resources to hand out tickets. Now, if they find someone on parole has violated that parole by using his illegal services, they might go after them. With all the drug OD's & recent shootings, they have other shit to worry about.

**Chunks92** · 04-18-22 11:44

Originally Posted by Holdrhem [View Original Post]

What about Telegraph? Is that anonymous?

Really none of its anonymous bro, if they want to find out something, they are going to find out what they are looking for. None of it will hold up in court let alone make its way into court unless you are contacting a live sting ad, or are a high ranking official that someone is going after their job like that west virginia senator, and he was in an extremely low crime county with nothing better to do. And even then it didn't hold up in court. The only problem you're going to run into is if you're married or have a significant other or some shit like that, like hypothetically they call your home phone and then your wife figures out or something to that effect and an argument ensues. But even then you're not going to court, that guy was a senator, we are peons. they have a hard enough time getting charges to stick on the dudes that DO show up to the operations. Easy solution to all of this? Don't get married.

**RE1975** · 04-18-22 11:31

Kind of ironic that Steve was the subject of beratement on here a few days ago from a would-be provider who didn't care much for him; just makes you wonder at the coincidence. That would be a shame.

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

Yep. The've had their eye on Steve since the debacle a few years back at the hotel where they confiscated his phones and all.
Hopefully he's not giving up all the client info. A lot of those girls seemed to have real world info on their clients. Some folks talk too much about their "chef" activities, etc. and share Instagram and Snapchat photos. LOL.

I'm sure they have his phone. Everyone here using Google Voice should probably be thinking about getting an honest burner.

**Holdrhem** · 04-17-22 16:13

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

If they're conducting a "Human Trafficking" (or, for that matter, any other) investigation, they can contact Google and ask for the account information. I promise, Google will comply.

Very unlikely, but you asked. Folks seem to think Google voice is anonymous. Not even a little bit.

What about Telegraph? Is that anonymous?

**Cincyeast52** · 04-17-22 15:03

Two of the best, in my humble opinion. Both genuine and friendly and loved their profession. I miss them terribly.

**RogerOver** · 04-17-22 14:42

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

So what will happen now to girls like Mariah?

Probably will be contacted by social workers that want to assist her in the mad rush to find some victims to convict Steve with.

**RogerOver** · 04-17-22 14:41

Originally Posted by PearishBA [View Original Post]

They usually just spam you GrayBar Hotel coupons. Don't try to redeem them and you're golden.

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

What are the cops going to do with a Google Voice number?

If they're conducting a "Human Trafficking" (or, for that matter, any other) investigation, they can contact Google and ask for the account information. I promise, Google will comply.

Very unlikely, but you asked. Folks seem to think Google voice is anonymous. Not even a little bit.

**MrNails** · 04-17-22 14:18

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

So what will happen now to girls like Mariah?

They will be able to collect unemployment. LOL.

**Simp4ebony** · 04-17-22 12:58

So what will happen now to girls like Mariah?

**Hillbilly Bob** · 04-17-22 12:22

Originally Posted by ToddCincy [View Original Post]

Sorry to hear about Steve. I dealt with him a few times back around 2012 to 2014. I didn't have a strong opinion about him, one way or the other. He treated me fairly enough.

The media and LE have decided that every escort is a victim of human trafficking. And nothing screams that narrative like an overweight middle-age man running a bunch of ladies.

I do not think that Steve was truly a bad guy, but he was a prime target in the current environment.

Those were the days when the Hobby was booming. Steve an Buddha had several girls working for them. Last couple of years EE Quality an numbers have went down hill. Be interesting to see if he or anyone starts scheduling again.

The person You have to feel bad for is Mariah that was with him. . I doubt any clients going to want to touch her knowing that she was working for him and he got caught.

**PearishBA** · 04-17-22 11:37

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

What are the cops going to do with a Google Voice number?

They usually just spam you GrayBar Hotel coupons. Don't try to redeem them and you're golden.

**Simp4ebony** · 04-17-22 07:49

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

Yep. The've had their eye on Steve since the debacle a few years back at the hotel where they confiscated his phones and all.
Hopefully he's not giving up all the client info. A lot of those girls seemed to have real world info on their clients. Some folks talk too much about their "chef" activities, etc. and share Instagram and Snapchat photos. LOL.

I'm sure they have his phone. Everyone here using Google Voice should probably be thinking about getting an honest burner.

What are the cops going to do with a Google Voice number?

**IslandDreams** · 04-17-22 02:05

Originally Posted by MollyDaniels [View Original Post]

Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.

Thanks for sharing it.

**Bedtime Story** · 04-16-22 19:24

Originally Posted by MollyDaniels [View Original Post]

Everyone here should just learn their rights.

You don't have to talk to the cops. (even if they call you).

You don't have the open the door for the cops (unless they have a warrant, then they would not knock anyway).

If they ask you to come to the precinct for a chat, you don't have to go (because they don't have an arrest warrant).

If they do get you to their house, without an arrest warrant, you have 24 hours (to keep your fucking mouth shut) to be silent, and then they have to let you go home (free. No bail).

If you know an arrest warrant is coming, bring your bail money with you in cash. Memorize the phone number of your ride from jail, and a trusted friend (in case you don't have bail) and a lawyer.

Don't technically have a lawyer? Pick one from the phone book / internet and memorize his number. Most have answering services and mechanisms to expedite your exit from jail for pay.

If they want you, they are going to get you faster than a mosquito bite in Florida swampland.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially the phone numbers.