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**Mr MuffMan** · 05-14-22 18:44

Originally Posted by TheDudeInSd [View Original Post]

Seems strange after purchasing the place 4 months ago they would all of the sudden want to sell it. Maybe Muffman can weigh in and explain. Place gets 15+ customers each day at $60 a head. Conservative estimate they make 30 k per month. Why sell it for 80 k?

Thanks if anybody has any info.

Well dude, your source for information is pretty good, however they got one pretty important detail wrong. It's VIP in Spring Valley that's for sale, not NLBC. After being closed for about 2 months, and contemplating what they wanted to do, they decided it's best to sell and move on. Sadly, after all the bullshit some of you guys put them through (you know who you are) it just isn't worth the trouble to continue to operate in San Diego. It's the mongers loss really. A few idiots ruined one of, if not THE best thing in town for the rest of us. Thanks a lot.

Mr MuffMan.

**The DudeInSd** · 05-14-22 12:42

Seems strange after purchasing the place 4 months ago they would all of the sudden want to sell it. Maybe Muffman can weigh in and explain. Place gets 15+ customers each day at $60 a head. Conservative estimate they make 30 k per month. Why sell it for 80 k?

Thanks if anybody has any info.

**RChangDatyKing** · 04-21-22 00:25

Originally Posted by MrMuffMan [View Original Post]

This is 100% incorrect. You guys are just making shit up at this point. You can read my post below, but there was not "three separate times that the police came". LE only made one visit to VIP and that was in December of last year. As I've already mentioned, I am very very close friends with one of the owners. I am friends with the other owners as well. So much so, that I've become a fixture at their owners meetings and get togethers. Just about everything I'm reading here is untrue. Nobody on this board has a fraction of the information I have about this. If it doesn't come from me, take it with a grain of salt, as it is more than likely untrue.

Mr MuffMan.

Mr. Muffman, thanks for posting what is actually true. There's still a few (well, mainly two) that constantly brings up these so call raids. Why? It's all about credibility.

**Mr MuffMan** · 04-18-22 22:14

Originally Posted by Nannersd [View Original Post]

I have been watching crimemapping website. It is very informative. It confirms the five citations issued back on 12/15/2021 at VIP in Spring Valley. What is missing is any data on any subsequent citations or arrests at that location, which has led me to question was there a second "bust" as many have reported.

Because of the lack of a second incident I have felt that the heat may have gotten to be too much and they bailed to another jurisdiction.

That's because there was no "2nd raid". These guys have no idea what they're talking about. LE only paid them one visit back in December. VIP is temporarily closed, and the future is uncertain for numerous reasons that I'm not about to discuss on the internet. My very good friend is one of the owners of VIP and I know everything that is going on with them and everything that has ever happened to them. I will provide an update when and if one becomes available.

Mr MuffMan.

**Nannersd** · 04-18-22 21:08

Originally Posted by Ryan1979 [View Original Post]

You are referring to the first raid where two John's were ticketed but the girls were left alone. That still blows my mind that John's were ticketed, but now it makes sense as LE prepared for their follow up. They weren't concerned about minor violations such as dress code and such, rather the real citations that will close a spa.

On the latest raid that closed this shop, I heard two girls were cited and one John.

Better luck to the VIP owners and girls. I hope this taught them that steady wins the race as opposed to full throttle everyday.

I have been watching crimemapping website. It is very informative. It confirms the five citations issued back on 12/15/2021 at VIP in Spring Valley. What is missing is any data on any subsequent citations or arrests at that location, which has led me to question was there a second "bust" as many have reported.

Because of the lack of a second incident I have felt that the heat may have gotten to be too much and they bailed to another jurisdiction.

**The DudeInSd** · 04-15-22 23:21

Originally Posted by Ryan1979 [View Original Post]

You are referring to the first raid where two John's were ticketed but the girls were left alone. That still blows my mind that John's were ticketed, but now it makes sense as LE prepared for their follow up. They weren't concerned about minor violations such as dress code and such, rather the real citations that will close a spa.

On the latest raid that closed this shop, I heard two girls were cited and one John.

Better luck to the VIP owners and girls. I hope this taught them that steady wins the race as opposed to full throttle everyday.

Yes the first raid. I wish the best of luck to all of them as well. Mina was definitely in my top 20, she was something special.

**Ryan1979** · 04-15-22 13:41

Originally Posted by TheDudeInSd [View Original Post]

My favorite was. "it was just a license check". Meanwhile during that license check one of the customers got bloodied up.

You are referring to the first raid where two John's were ticketed but the girls were left alone. That still blows my mind that John's were ticketed, but now it makes sense as LE prepared for their follow up. They weren't concerned about minor violations such as dress code and such, rather the real citations that will close a spa.

On the latest raid that closed this shop, I heard two girls were cited and one John.

Better luck to the VIP owners and girls. I hope this taught them that steady wins the race as opposed to full throttle everyday.

**The DudeInSd** · 04-15-22 10:31

Originally Posted by Ryan1979 [View Original Post]

VIP's "innovative" (as one member put it) marketing campaign on this forum has ceased to exist in case nobody's noticed. They've got their list of trusted customers numbers and now prefer to use the original names of the spas they acquire. Some of these trusted customers are being given flat rates for the whole shebang at some of their new locations they now prefer to keep discreet.

Some of you members need to stop parroting whatever these girls / spas tell you. The only reason a spa sells is if it's in trouble, business is too slow or it's a lie. These working girls are not employees or contractors. Calling the girls contractors is a weak attempt at trying to separate a girls illegal activities from the spa owners. The reality is that if a girl gets ticketed, the spa also gets a mark against it. Three strikes and the spa is forced to close. Even spas that are sold still have a red flag if the spa or girl was ticketed prior to being acquired. I believe this is for all of San Diego county.

If you like to believe a girl when they tell you you're handsome, so big, made her cum, etc. Good for you, but don't let them use you to propagate their lies like "our spa wasn't raided", "we're closed for remodelling", "we'll be opening again soon. . . ".

Don't some of you guys feel foolish, used or maybe this was your way to gain favor with a spa / girl or you're just pussy whipped. The latter being understandable, but still not right.

My favorite was. "it was just a license check". Meanwhile during that license check one of the customers got bloodied up.

**Ryan1979** · 04-14-22 23:23

Originally Posted by TheDudeInSd [View Original Post]

Change the name of this thread to NLBC.

That way we can keep all the reviews of this place in one section.

VIP's "innovative" (as one member put it) marketing campaign on this forum has ceased to exist in case nobody's noticed. They've got their list of trusted customers numbers and now prefer to use the original names of the spas they acquire. Some of these trusted customers are being given flat rates for the whole shebang at some of their new locations they now prefer to keep discreet.

Some of you members need to stop parroting whatever these girls / spas tell you. The only reason a spa sells is if it's in trouble, business is too slow or it's a lie. These working girls are not employees or contractors. Calling the girls contractors is a weak attempt at trying to separate a girls illegal activities from the spa owners. The reality is that if a girl gets ticketed, the spa also gets a mark against it. Three strikes and the spa is forced to close. Even spas that are sold still have a red flag if the spa or girl was ticketed prior to being acquired. I believe this is for all of San Diego county.

If you like to believe a girl when they tell you you're handsome, so big, made her cum, etc. Good for you, but don't let them use you to propagate their lies like "our spa wasn't raided", "we're closed for remodelling", "we'll be opening again soon. . . ".

Don't some of you guys feel foolish, used or maybe this was your way to gain favor with a spa / girl or you're just pussy whipped. The latter being understandable, but still not right.

**The DudeInSd** · 04-11-22 22:50

Originally Posted by Yogurt2020 [View Original Post]

What is NLBC? Is that another AMP name or agency?

New Life Body Care aka VIP2.

**Cockasians** · 04-11-22 22:37

Originally Posted by Yogurt2020 [View Original Post]

What is NLBC? Is that another AMP name or agency?

New Life Body Care. The new location seems ideal for privacy. I've only seen Grace and she has a pretty face, nice boobs, and tattoos. $60 for the half hour $140 tip. Tongue bath head to toe. BBBJ with deep throat. On goes the cover and ACG to completion. Warm towel clean up followed by brief massage. I rate her service a 10 out of 10 and her looks a 6 out of ten. I can't wait to try Daisy. I know Grace has been discribed as hotter but her body type is not my preference but she made up for it with excellent service. To each his own.

**Yogurt2020** · 04-11-22 22:06

Originally Posted by TheDudeInSd [View Original Post]

Change the name of this thread to NLBC.

That way we can keep all the reviews of this place in one section.

What is NLBC? Is that another AMP name or agency?

**The DudeInSd** · 04-11-22 16:18

Change the name of this thread to NLBC.

That way we can keep all the reviews of this place in one section.

**DragonWolf** · 04-11-22 14:44

Originally Posted by GoraGora [View Original Post]

Almost 24 hours without a pickup or text response answers my question.

If you have the old VIP2 number it's basically no longer valid. Someone is on the other end, but it's no long the shop. I confirmed that within the last couple of days or so.