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  1. #13875

    Stand up shower

    Anybody know if there's and MT, AMP or otherwise, that offers standup shower with pre-game warmup? Either in GR or Lansing? Feel free to PM me.

  2. #13874

    Amy at Asian Ivy AMP

    The location is a directly across from Mediterranean island on Kalamazoo near 44th. Was interested in trying the table shower and meeting Amy for the first time based on previous good reports. I scheduled with Amy using the main website phone number and by text only. No issues with the arrangements, starting on time or the amount of time. All were as expected. The table shower was nice and for a 20 min body wash at 10, it was worth it. I followed this with a 60 min massage typical real massage you expect from an AMP with oil and deep with forearms used. I established a friendly rapport during the shower that carried into the massage. What you often expect from an AMP is a legit massage and the HE is a very mechanical bang-it-out session. I heard Amy was different. Better. I can report IMO, she was fantastic. Slow and attentive. You don't really get the GFE and a lot of talking like you would at BBW, but is a great option if you really need the massage and want an quality HE. Never a request for tip, but I like to give freely for excellent service. Total: table shower 10, 60 min 60 (70 up front), tip 40. YMMV, but suggest being kind and respectful. Works for me.

    Cheers and stay safe! Tdawg.

    https://www.asianivymassage.com/

  3. #13873
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveTheLips  [View Original Post]
    When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, FIV, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.
    I've heard Courtney no longer works at Panacea!

  4. #13872
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveTheLips  [View Original Post]
    When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, fiv, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.
    You should go to bodywork's by us.

  5. #13871

    Panacea

    Quote Originally Posted by Gene2  [View Original Post]
    Every once in a while I get to feeling a bit taken for granted at my personal favorite spot, BodyworkByUs. Not often, but it happens. It's probably just me. Maybe I can't get an appointment scheduled with my selected girl, or maybe I have to wait hours for a response.

    But then a post like this comes along, and reminds me that all is well in my world. I have so many selections available at BBU. And all of them play by the same rules with regard to costs. It's kind of exciting to see a new girl, but if the experience is simply a negotiation, that's just not what I'm after. My life is full of negotiating and deals. I want to escape the reality for 45 minutes of pure enjoyment and pleasure and fantasy.

    To hear that negotiating results in a salty provider speaks to me. And it says "stay away". And I guess that's what makes this board so helpful.

    So thanks for posting this review. I will take a hard no pass on Courtney, or anyone else at Panacea who hasn't been reviewed and cleared as a "non-negotiator."

    I'm hitting the BBU website now and getting an appointment scheduled!

    G2.
    Yes, definitely lesson learned. I am still relatively new to this so I appreciate all the advice that has been given. This board has been incredibly helpful and has given me the confidence to walk out should it ever happen again. Sometimes its hard to pass on the excitement of someone new. I won't write off Panacea but I will stick with girls who have been reviewed in the positive.

    Thanks and stay safe everyone.

    Ben.

  6. #13870

    Courtney at Panacea

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.

    BenNorth.
    When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, fiv, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.

  7. #13869
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    Posts: 1086

    Spring break last week

    Quote Originally Posted by WestMI  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?
    I believe she was on spring break last week. Not sure about this week, maybe the monthly visit. Hopefully she's back to us soon.

  8. #13868

    Lovely Lauren

    Quote Originally Posted by WestMI  [View Original Post]
    Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?
    I had comms with her last week. May be on spring break? I texted her Monday but no response.

    Ss.

  9. #13867

    Where is Lauren?

    Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?

  10. #13866
    Regular Member


    Posts: 20

    Kourtney

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.
    I would like to add to this provider. I saw her a few weeks ago. Not the worse but not what I was expecting after some back and fourth texting.

    Similar experience but no mention of tip cause that was talked about prior to my arrival. It was $.20 for a hh which was more like 20 mins. Paid the door fee out of that. Lead to the room told to leave tip on counter and then she left for 5 mins (seemed lot longer LOL). Came back in the room started with a half ass massage, then I choose to give her one. She Basically laid there nude, no movement, no connection. Felt like she wanted to get done and out ASAP. Then can some fun. I had wanted FS and and mutual playing. Well the playing started and that was it. I asked the the rest mid way and she said no that's not included. Quickly got me off after that. Cleaned me half ass, she got dressed so fast I was halfway done myself and I had to show myself out. Eh to the whole things. Won't repeat with her. No knock to the MP.

    P.S.

    I thought about it more more and more. I think I seen her few years ago for a outcall and it was pretty much the same. Upcharges and the word no to everything.

    Stay safe.

  11. #13865

    Agreed and a good warning for the guys (and Panacea gals)

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on..
    Thanks for sharing the review. Shame to hear that about Courtney. We'll have to add another new gal to the avoid list at Panacea.

    I suggest calling ahead, and only go in if you can see someone you know is cool, or maybe go ahead anyway if you are OK with throwing $50 away for a half hour session to meet someone new. If the later case, and whenever the bullshit tip talk starts like that, I suggest you consider just bagging it. The session isn't going to be fun once the talk of crazy money starts. Either tell the gal you don't talk money during session, but will tip well if treated well (it's for my safety and your's babe. Tell her), or just stand up and start getting dressed, without a comment. Enough guys start walking out of the shit tip sessions, and even the new girls will figure out how to make money fairly (they make almost nothing from the time charge, certainly not enough to keep doing this).

    IMHO, the girls I know to be fun and worth seeing include Lexi, Aliese, Ava, Kayla, Melissa, Natalie, and Kelly.

    Of course, you are guaranteed to have a great visit at BbU.

  12. #13864
    Senior Member


    Posts: 214

    Panacea walk ins- NOGO

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.

    BenNorth.
    I quit doing walkins at Panacea over a year ago because of problems like this. So then I figured I will just call ahead to see who is working and setup an appointment. But everytime I call to ask who is working they get kinda pissy like you're bugging them or something. So. Now I don't go there at all. There's a few good ones there that I do miss seeing. But there's too many other good options in town to deal with rudeness on the phone or terrible service on a walkin.

  13. #13863
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    BodyworkByUs

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on..
    Every once in a while I get to feeling a bit taken for granted at my personal favorite spot, BodyworkByUs. Not often, but it happens. It's probably just me. Maybe I can't get an appointment scheduled with my selected girl, or maybe I have to wait hours for a response.

    But then a post like this comes along, and reminds me that all is well in my world. I have so many selections available at BBU. And all of them play by the same rules with regard to costs. It's kind of exciting to see a new girl, but if the experience is simply a negotiation, that's just not what I'm after. My life is full of negotiating and deals. I want to escape the reality for 45 minutes of pure enjoyment and pleasure and fantasy.

    To hear that negotiating results in a salty provider speaks to me. And it says "stay away". And I guess that's what makes this board so helpful.

    So thanks for posting this review. I will take a hard no pass on Courtney, or anyone else at Panacea who hasn't been reviewed and cleared as a "non-negotiator."

    I'm hitting the BBU website now and getting an appointment scheduled!

    G2.

  14. #13862

    Courtney at Panacea

    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.

    BenNorth.

  15. #13861

    Beautiful Milan

    Quote Originally Posted by ClassyGentGr  [View Original Post]
    I had the honor of seeing beautiful Milan for the 1st time in the last week, and, wow, did she impress! She met me at the door with a hug looking like a model. Well dressed, make up, and a huge smile with a naughty look. She took me back to a clean room with great ambience and We enjoyed an hour session, interrupted a few times because of walk ins, but nothing that hindered our time. Because it was the 1st visit with her, I let her do her thing. She was obviously interested in meeting me massage needs and she has wonderful hands. Soft but able to give give rub down and work our kinks. She located them well and applied the right pressure. On the flip she continued to work my leg and arms but also became playful, showcasing her gorgeous body. She had already undressed to a sexy nighty but now she revealed her pretty breasts and let me play with them. I did not explore other areas, other than her perfect butt. We did not discuss other options but I will proceed slowly with this beautiful woman and respect her desires. . 80 for room & a generous donation for tip. She does not ask for a specific amount but leaves it to you. But she is worth far more than the average gal, so please tip accordingly. I will definitely be returning to this rare gem.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...n/889458837004
    Spot on for me on Beautiful Milan. Get there quick though as this TGTBT can't last long. I'll be back as soon as I make GR again. Might come early just to see her.

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