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  1. #13866
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    Posts: 20

    Kourtney

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.
    I would like to add to this provider. I saw her a few weeks ago. Not the worse but not what I was expecting after some back and fourth texting.

    Similar experience but no mention of tip cause that was talked about prior to my arrival. It was $.20 for a hh which was more like 20 mins. Paid the door fee out of that. Lead to the room told to leave tip on counter and then she left for 5 mins (seemed lot longer LOL). Came back in the room started with a half ass massage, then I choose to give her one. She Basically laid there nude, no movement, no connection. Felt like she wanted to get done and out ASAP. Then can some fun. I had wanted FS and and mutual playing. Well the playing started and that was it. I asked the the rest mid way and she said no that's not included. Quickly got me off after that. Cleaned me half ass, she got dressed so fast I was halfway done myself and I had to show myself out. Eh to the whole things. Won't repeat with her. No knock to the MP.

    P.S.

    I thought about it more more and more. I think I seen her few years ago for a outcall and it was pretty much the same. Upcharges and the word no to everything.

    Stay safe.

  2. #13865

    Agreed and a good warning for the guys (and Panacea gals)

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on..
    Thanks for sharing the review. Shame to hear that about Courtney. We'll have to add another new gal to the avoid list at Panacea.

    I suggest calling ahead, and only go in if you can see someone you know is cool, or maybe go ahead anyway if you are OK with throwing $50 away for a half hour session to meet someone new. If the later case, and whenever the bullshit tip talk starts like that, I suggest you consider just bagging it. The session isn't going to be fun once the talk of crazy money starts. Either tell the gal you don't talk money during session, but will tip well if treated well (it's for my safety and your's babe. Tell her), or just stand up and start getting dressed, without a comment. Enough guys start walking out of the shit tip sessions, and even the new girls will figure out how to make money fairly (they make almost nothing from the time charge, certainly not enough to keep doing this).

    IMHO, the girls I know to be fun and worth seeing include Lexi, Aliese, Ava, Kayla, Melissa, Natalie, and Kelly.

    Of course, you are guaranteed to have a great visit at BbU.

  3. #13864
    Senior Member


    Posts: 214

    Panacea walk ins- NOGO

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.

    BenNorth.
    I quit doing walkins at Panacea over a year ago because of problems like this. So then I figured I will just call ahead to see who is working and setup an appointment. But everytime I call to ask who is working they get kinda pissy like you're bugging them or something. So. Now I don't go there at all. There's a few good ones there that I do miss seeing. But there's too many other good options in town to deal with rudeness on the phone or terrible service on a walkin.

  4. #13863
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    BodyworkByUs

    Quote Originally Posted by BenNorth  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on..
    Every once in a while I get to feeling a bit taken for granted at my personal favorite spot, BodyworkByUs. Not often, but it happens. It's probably just me. Maybe I can't get an appointment scheduled with my selected girl, or maybe I have to wait hours for a response.

    But then a post like this comes along, and reminds me that all is well in my world. I have so many selections available at BBU. And all of them play by the same rules with regard to costs. It's kind of exciting to see a new girl, but if the experience is simply a negotiation, that's just not what I'm after. My life is full of negotiating and deals. I want to escape the reality for 45 minutes of pure enjoyment and pleasure and fantasy.

    To hear that negotiating results in a salty provider speaks to me. And it says "stay away". And I guess that's what makes this board so helpful.

    So thanks for posting this review. I will take a hard no pass on Courtney, or anyone else at Panacea who hasn't been reviewed and cleared as a "non-negotiator."

    I'm hitting the BBU website now and getting an appointment scheduled!

    G2.

  5. #13862

    Courtney at Panacea

    I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.

    She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.

    BenNorth.

  6. #13861

    Beautiful Milan

    Quote Originally Posted by ClassyGentGr  [View Original Post]
    I had the honor of seeing beautiful Milan for the 1st time in the last week, and, wow, did she impress! She met me at the door with a hug looking like a model. Well dressed, make up, and a huge smile with a naughty look. She took me back to a clean room with great ambience and We enjoyed an hour session, interrupted a few times because of walk ins, but nothing that hindered our time. Because it was the 1st visit with her, I let her do her thing. She was obviously interested in meeting me massage needs and she has wonderful hands. Soft but able to give give rub down and work our kinks. She located them well and applied the right pressure. On the flip she continued to work my leg and arms but also became playful, showcasing her gorgeous body. She had already undressed to a sexy nighty but now she revealed her pretty breasts and let me play with them. I did not explore other areas, other than her perfect butt. We did not discuss other options but I will proceed slowly with this beautiful woman and respect her desires. . 80 for room & a generous donation for tip. She does not ask for a specific amount but leaves it to you. But she is worth far more than the average gal, so please tip accordingly. I will definitely be returning to this rare gem.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...n/889458837004
    Spot on for me on Beautiful Milan. Get there quick though as this TGTBT can't last long. I'll be back as soon as I make GR again. Might come early just to see her.

  7. #13860

    Beautiful Milan

    I had the honor of seeing beautiful Milan for the 1st time in the last week, and, wow, did she impress! She met me at the door with a hug looking like a model. Well dressed, make up, and a huge smile with a naughty look. She took me back to a clean room with great ambience and We enjoyed an hour session, interrupted a few times because of walk ins, but nothing that hindered our time. Because it was the 1st visit with her, I let her do her thing. She was obviously interested in meeting me massage needs and she has wonderful hands. Soft but able to give give rub down and work our kinks. She located them well and applied the right pressure. On the flip she continued to work my leg and arms but also became playful, showcasing her gorgeous body. She had already undressed to a sexy nighty but now she revealed her pretty breasts and let me play with them. I did not explore other areas, other than her perfect butt. We did not discuss other options but I will proceed slowly with this beautiful woman and respect her desires. . 80 for room & a generous donation for tip. She does not ask for a specific amount but leaves it to you. But she is worth far more than the average gal, so please tip accordingly. I will definitely be returning to this rare gem.

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...n/889458837004

  8. #13859

    Back

    Quote Originally Posted by ChillStack  [View Original Post]
    Been a long time luker. Been around them, been with them. Just a heads up. It's there job to sell you a fantasy, after your session is done, your dream dies until the next. Don't catch no feelings, don't try to spoil them. Leave that for others. Once you pay, your a customer, there's no other way around. Stay safe and have fun!
    Jim Hall is back! FYea!

  9. #13858
    Banned Member


    Posts: 1086

    Maybe go to an English speaking parlor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zigster42  [View Original Post]
    Okay, just to preface this, I am a complete newbie when it comes to MPs so bear with me I usually stick to independent providers and have been inactive for quite some time. I've recently attempted to visit L. A in Portland twice now and I can't for the life of me get anything to happen. The first visit was on me because I wasn't paying attention and missed the question. Before I went the second time I attempted to find some kind of guide but I didn't find much so I just went about in a different way. I went for a full hour this time and was ready for the question. When she dropped the question I decided to use a nonverbal cue because I didn't know what to say and she just looked at me confused, giggled and said never mind. So, I'm about to give up because I have no idea how to ask for anything. I hate ask for help without providing a proper report but can I get some advice? These goofs are starting to get kinda expensive.

    Much appreciated if you do.

    Zig.
    There are loads of options for MPs where you can get a happy ending. That can be as simple as a hand job or as intimate as a body slide.

    Try BodyworkByUs (google it to find the website). Prices are all inclusive, although you can leave a tip if you like, it's not expected.

    Or try Hunter. Advertisement on Skip the Games.

    Or try Panacea. Advertisement on STG.

    Or try Serenity. Advertisement on STG.

    Once you get the hang of it, then you can venture to Asian places.

    Hope that helps.

    G2.

  10. #13857

    My advise

    Quote Originally Posted by Zigster42  [View Original Post]
    Okay, just to preface this, I am a complete newbie when it comes to MPs so bear with me I usually stick to independent providers and have been inactive for quite some time. I've recently attempted to visit L. A in Portland twice now and I can't for the life of me get anything to happen. The first visit was on me because I wasn't paying attention and missed the question. Before I went the second time I attempted to find some kind of guide but I didn't find much so I just went about in a different way. I went for a full hour this time and was ready for the question. When she dropped the question I decided to use a nonverbal cue because I didn't know what to say and she just looked at me confused, giggled and said never mind. So, I'm about to give up because I have no idea how to ask for anything. I hate ask for help without providing a proper report but can I get some advice? These goofs are starting to get kinda expensive.

    Much appreciated if you do.

    Zig.
    When she asks the question. Say "everything". She will ask something like what do you want to do or how much do you want to spend. If you are afraid to say any specific act, just say everything. Not saying anything or using non-verbal clues don't really work.

  11. #13856

    I must be doing something wrong

    Okay, just to preface this, I am a complete newbie when it comes to MPs so bear with me I usually stick to independent providers and have been inactive for quite some time. I've recently attempted to visit L. A in Portland twice now and I can't for the life of me get anything to happen. The first visit was on me because I wasn't paying attention and missed the question. Before I went the second time I attempted to find some kind of guide but I didn't find much so I just went about in a different way. I went for a full hour this time and was ready for the question. When she dropped the question I decided to use a nonverbal cue because I didn't know what to say and she just looked at me confused, giggled and said never mind. So, I'm about to give up because I have no idea how to ask for anything. I hate ask for help without providing a proper report but can I get some advice? These goofs are starting to get kinda expensive.

    Much appreciated if you do.

    Zig.

  12. #13855

    Yeah, reviewed a couple days ago. Recommend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vmax3754  [View Original Post]
    I tried the search and did not see anything unless I did something wrong.

    Anyone seen her?

    https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.co...a/216656633359
    Look at my reviews. She's Maria at pacific. Had a lot of fun with her.

  13. #13854

    Joy at Tui Na

    Thank you for posting the review. It convinced me to try her out and it was excellent!

    My impression was nude and FS aren't on the menu, not to lose sight of it being a great time overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaulJulia  [View Original Post]
    Hey Guys,

    Just adding my endorsement for Joy at Tui Na. She's very enthusiastic about her work. I was a walk-in and had never been there before, so I didn't know what to expect other than reading one or two good reviews on this website. I drove past the place at first because it's on the back / lower level of the building where it's located. But it's a nice building in a decent part of GR. Parking is adequate and pretty discreet. She gave me a decent massage and the flip was nice. Since it was my first time there I didn't know how much coaxing she might need to get to the HE. But she was flirty and playful throughout the massage and once she started working, she definitely knew what shew was doing. If you're a fan of AMPs, definitely give this place a try. She said business had been really slow lately, so this is a good one to support. She doesn't speak a lot of English, but it's enough. An added bonus--she's the only AMP I've been to lately that isn't still wearing masks, so I got to see her pretty face. And a nice amount of roaming was allowed. Standard rates for the AMP experience.

  14. #13853

    One expensive visit to Panacea

    Quote Originally Posted by TomTravis  [View Original Post]
    Speaking about a new girl in training, I wrote this up on Monday, Apr 4th:

    A creature of habit, or, perhaps simply a traditionalist, I selected Panacea as my massage salon over a year ago and have remained true, save out-of-town trips. Again this last Sunday evening I visited to enjoy the services offered by their staff.

    An hour out, I called to enquire who was working the late Sunday evening shift. Those on duty included the celebrated Lexi and Ava whose excellent reviews are nearly universal on this forum, both of whom I have seen singly and together. When I arrived, I enquired again as I wanted a surprise this evening and chose Kayla who I had not seen before. As she entered the room, she asked if Jocelyn could "shadow" her in my session. Much to my amazement I had stumbled upon a situation that was wholly unexpected. A masseuse in training? Of course she could watch!

    The house fee at Panacea is eighty for an hour. The "normal" upcharge which I offer at the outset is a Franklin and, true to form, I had it ready to go. But I had slipped another note of the same denomination under the pillow to use when / if the action got really hot and heavy and it was needed. Before the flip I withdrew that second note and passed it to Kayla saying that while I had brought it for her, would she please, if it was appropriate, pass it to Jocelyn. The tip was well received and now Jocelyn was no longer the student, she was receiving OJT. I had four hands relieving my stress. It was a fun time, indeed! As she was "in training," I offered some suggestions for after-care.
    Sounds like you had quite a visit there. Could you describe Jocelyn a little more? Looks, body, etc? PM is fine, but I'd guess others may be curious too.

    To be honest, I have never heard of someone spending $300 for an hour at Panacea (OK $20 shy). Hell, that tip was 250% of the time fee. Wow!

    Oh, and Kalya is brand new, not a vet. She joined Panacea a couple months ago, and had never done massage prior.
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  15. #13852

    Lurker

    Been a long time luker. Been around them, been with them. Just a heads up. It's there job to sell you a fantasy, after your session is done, your dream dies until the next. Don't catch no feelings, don't try to spoil them. Leave that for others. Once you pay, your a customer, there's no other way around. Stay safe and have fun!

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