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[PeckerHead]

How exactly are they different? They are both groups of women. They are both excepting money for sexual (normally) interactions with you. They both often have habits, vices, mental issues that prevent them from functioning as a,"normal," member of society. The two groups often have a different price point, but from what I have read, not often a huge difference. Both groups have their scammers. From what I have read, the quality of girl might on average be higher in the SB realm, but I have no experience to draw from.

I am not attempting to be aggressive, but am interested in your guys opinions on this, and would love to flesh this out.

I've never talked money for sex with any SB I've met. I've invited some on dates and they replied with an amount but I pass on those types and move on. Why would I pay to go out with someone for drinks and / or dinner or even to share a cup of coffee with? They aren't SB's they're escorts trying to drum up business on a SD site. PPM is something an escort would do. PPM isn't allowed on Seeking so right there that sort of destroys the first part of your explanation. Secondly, I have not met anyone on SA with habits or mental issues so I don't know what you mean by that. They've all had real jobs or are going to college so pretty much normal members of society.

[Flagrant]

How exactly are they different? They are both groups of women. They are both excepting money for sexual (normally) interactions with you. They both often have habits, vices, mental issues that prevent them from functioning as a,"normal," member of society. The two groups often have a different price point, but from what I have read, not often a huge difference. Both groups have their scammers. From what I have read, the quality of girl might on average be higher in the SB realm, but I have no experience to draw from.

I am not attempting to be aggressive, but am interested in your guys opinions on this, and would love to flesh this out.

In general, girls you meet on SA aren't fucking a dozen other guys per day at $80 per quarter hour. That sort of volume grinds the soul to dust.

[RadCoach]

How exactly are they different? They are both groups of women. They are both excepting money for sexual (normally) interactions with you. They both often have habits, vices, mental issues that prevent them from functioning as a,"normal," member of society. The two groups often have a different price point, but from what I have read, not often a huge difference. Both groups have their scammers. From what I have read, the quality of girl might on average be higher in the SB realm, but I have no experience to draw from.

I am not attempting to be aggressive, but am interested in your guys opinions on this, and would love to flesh this out.

Most SB's do not have habits, vices, (drug problems) or mental issues. Most are in fact, normal members of society. "Most" are actually students that are struggling to pay for tuition and living expenses. Each of the 3 SB's I see are students who are working hard to reach educational and life goals without the benefits that come with parents with the financial resources to help. Take this, or leave it and continue on in your ignorant world filled with false judgments.

[BigMilwaukee]

How exactly are they different? They are both groups of women. They are both excepting money for sexual (normally) interactions with you. They both often have habits, vices, mental issues that prevent them from functioning as a,"normal," member of society. The two groups often have a different price point, but from what I have read, not often a huge difference. Both groups have their scammers. From what I have read, the quality of girl might on average be higher in the SB realm, but I have no experience to draw from.

I am not attempting to be aggressive, but am interested in your guys opinions on this, and would love to flesh this out.

I think what he means is your definition is the same when it should not be. Yes hamburger and steak are beef but no they are not therefore the same. I don't consider escorts the same as SB's but yes both are women. Completely different other than they are both women.

[PeckerHead]

Don't just stop there and leave me hanging buddy, elaborate. The whole point of a discussion is to express your point of view. Some may agree, some may disagree, some may have an epiphany and change their minds on something. No one can do anything if you don't express yourself.

I think what he means is your definition is the same when it should not be. Yes hamburger and steak are beef but no they are not therefore the same. I don't consider escorts the same as SB's but yes both are women. Completely different other than they are both women.

[RadCoach]

Don't just stop there and leave me hanging buddy, elaborate. The whole point of a discussion is to express your point of view. Some may agree, some may disagree, some may have an epiphany and change their minds on something. No one can do anything if you don't express yourself.

Need me to explain, really? The biggest problem with the "babies" is that there aren't enough of the good ones to go around. Now I hope you're asking yourself "hmmm why aren't there more? I'll tell you why.

Because the moment they start their profile on SA the receive a barrage of messages from men who share your thoughts where the content of the message is offensive. Offensive to a baby is when you talk to them or treat them like an escort, hooker or street walking *****. A lot of the good babies don't make it a week. Those with thicker skin might dabble on the site for a month or so, just until they've had enough. The babies who stay longer and see multiple men are the ones with lesser resolve or character.

[BigMilwaukee]

Don't just stop there and leave me hanging buddy, elaborate. The whole point of a discussion is to express your point of view. Some may agree, some may disagree, some may have an epiphany and change their minds on something. No one can do anything if you don't express yourself.

If you don't, can't or refuse to differentiate between escorts and babies, you're a huge part of the problem.

[RadCoach]

I personally do not differentiate between the two. Both are mercenary agreements. I certainly understand how you and others do tho. Often you are dealing with more,"normal," girls, with less chance of habits or mental health issues causing problems. Mabye I am just cynical, but anyone willing to sell themselves is also willing to do other things to benifit themselves. Now again, this is just my opinion.

If you don't, can't or refuse to differentiate between escorts and babies, you're a huge part of the problem.

[BigMilwaukee]

I personally do not differentiate between the two. Both are mercenary agreements. I certainly understand how you and others do tho. Often you are dealing with more,"normal," girls, with less chance of habits or mental health issues causing problems. Mabye I am just cynical, but anyone willing to sell themselves is also willing to do other things to benifit themselves. Now again, this is just my opinion.

Are you talking about SB's or escorts? While my opinion is definitely not shared by everyone, there is a big difference between the two. If you're talking about escorts I'd agree, SB's I've had in my home and will again.

[PeckerHead]

I am always in shock that some men have no common sense. These things shouldn't have to be explained but unfortunately here we are! Foo's will do foolish things.

Agreed. I don't even want to hear someone complaining about it. It's all self inflicted. Don't think your going to get sympathy from me and you just look plain stupid for doing such a thing.

[RadCoach]

Everyone has their own way of doing things. I have learned, the hard way mind you, that it is best to play it safe. Consider it more preventative then. Practice things such as don't bring anything to an incall that you can not afford to loose. Avoid outcalls to your residence, whether your house or apartment. Do not leave anything valuable out or in the bathroom. Only have enough money on you to cover the visit.

Are you talking about SB's or escorts? While my opinion is definitely not shared by everyone, there is a big difference between the two. If you're talking about escorts I'd agree, SB's I've had in my home and will again.

[BigMilwaukee]

Everyone has their own way of doing things. I have learned, the hard way mind you, that it is best to play it safe. Consider it more preventative then. Practice things such as don't bring anything to an incall that you can not afford to loose. Avoid outcalls to your residence, whether your house or apartment. Do not leave anything valuable out or in the bathroom. Only have enough money on you to cover the visit.

#'s 2, 3, 4, and 5 - all good.

#1 is a problem, Daddy's with this attitude poison the few good babies we have.

[RadCoach]

What has been said is all correct. Let's tie it all together with a couple main points.

1. Expect that everyone you contact is trying to steal from you.

2. If it seems to good to be true, it is.

3. Out of state numbers should be a huge red flag (although the scammers are becoming more adept at becoming more localized).

4. Pictures that look like they are from Maxum, playboy, sports illustrated, it is probably a fake add.

5. Anyone asking for a deposit is a scam. There might be some leeway given to traveling girls, but I wouldn't pay.

Just tell yourself over and over again, if they ask for money in advance, it is a scam. Do not be one of the many fools that feed this scamming industry that has popped up. If you want to give your money away, spend it on only fans or something stupid like that.

#'s 2, 3, 4, and 5 - all good.

#1 is a problem, Daddy's with this attitude poison the few good babies we have.

[BrickForm]

Here's the correct way to think about this:

Are there enough fools desperate enough to send money in advance in the hopes of fucking some hot chick? Yes.

Given that, why would a girl who is fully prepared to meet ask for money in advance?

And even if she was fully prepared to meet, once she's discovered that there are fools desperate enough to send her money in advance, why wouldn't she just setup an ad in some other random city and rinse and repeat? And skip the whole meeting for real part?

And once dudes realize they can get in on the game and all they need is photos of a hot girl, what's to stop them?

It's simple: Never prepay. Ever. Once a girl asks for prepay, you can pretty much predict that she's not actually going to meet, and probably isn't a she. LOL.

I am always in shock that some men have no common sense. These things shouldn't have to be explained but unfortunately here we are! Foo's will do foolish things.

[BigMilwaukee]

What has been said is all correct. Let's tie it all together with a couple main points.

1. Expect that everyone you contact is trying to steal from you.

2. If it seems to good to be true, it is.

3. Out of state numbers should be a huge red flag (although the scammers are becoming more adept at becoming more localized).

4. Pictures that look like they are from Maxum, playboy, sports illustrated, it is probably a fake add.

5. Anyone asking for a deposit is a scam. There might be some leeway given to traveling girls, but I wouldn't pay.

Just tell yourself over and over again, if they ask for money in advance, it is a scam. Do not be one of the many fools that feed this scamming industry that has popped up. If you want to give your money away, spend it on only fans or something stupid like that.

Here's the correct way to think about this:

Are there enough fools desperate enough to send money in advance in the hopes of fucking some hot chick? Yes.

Given that, why would a girl who is fully prepared to meet ask for money in advance?

And even if she was fully prepared to meet, once she's discovered that there are fools desperate enough to send her money in advance, why wouldn't she just setup an ad in some other random city and rinse and repeat? And skip the whole meeting for real part?

And once dudes realize they can get in on the game and all they need is photos of a hot girl, what's to stop them?

It's simple: Never prepay. Ever. Once a girl asks for prepay, you can pretty much predict that she's not actually going to meet, and probably isn't a she. LOL.