Ripoff Reports

[StanleyStankas]

Never, ever advance any cash. Chances are that wasn't even a female in Chicago who scammed you. Online means it could be anyone, anywhere around the globe. Doesn't matter how well you feel you know the girl. It's a recipe for ruin.

I had one absolutely cute, absolutely young blond named Kat who was a trusted provider for more than one visit. The one time she needed cash first, she said she was going to run inside to her Grandmother's apartment to drop the money off. I was so dumb. Didn't know what apartment she went into and I guess it didn't matter because she never came back out, LOL.

And that is an old cabbie trick that was played on me back in the day in the cruel hard chi town city. I"ll be right back with the money. Well firstly the address given was not where she was going. She went into the alley way between buildings, walked through the alley and away she went. Probably to her real building through the back a few buildings away. Live and learn. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or so I have heard. Stosh be safe. p.s. also totally agree giving out a deposit is like flushing the money down the toilet except at least with the toilet one knows where it went!

[Dr Manhattan]

She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.

Never, ever advance any cash. Chances are that wasn't even a female in Chicago who scammed you. Online means it could be anyone, anywhere around the globe. Doesn't matter how well you feel you know the girl. It's a recipe for ruin.

I had one absolutely cute, absolutely young blond named Kat who was a trusted provider for more than one visit. The one time she needed cash first, she said she was going to run inside to her Grandmother's apartment to drop the money off. I was so dumb. Didn't know what apartment she went into and I guess it didn't matter because she never came back out, LOL.

[LongDStyle]

She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.

A link would help so we know who you're talking about. But can only blame yourself for sending that deposit. Let that be the last time. There are people making good money of deposits never providing a minute of service and are hiding behind fake pics.

[OldManDupage]

She asked to send a deposit before meeting. Liked her pictures and sent the deposit. Asked if she was ready for me to come after I sent the deposit then all of a sudden my calls went to voicemail. Don't trust this one. Scammed me out of 50 bucks. Sticking to my regulars from now on.

[Word1234]

If anyone is willing to pay 500 or more, I strongly suggest going with agency girls. Most of these independent females are simply not worth the prices they are asking for. At least with an agency, like Alena Chicago, you pretty much know what you're getting, the prices are more consistent and there's probably less chance of one getting scammed. In fact, I honestly wouldn't even considering going over 400 with an independent female with only a few exceptions. And that's only because they used to work for agencies and have extremely good reviews.

And one last reminder. No deposits!

Thank you as someone who is new to to this site are websites like alenachicago legit? I'm been trying to research escorts off of twitter, P411, TER, and eros. What would be your process of determining which are real or which are fake / cops.

[MoneyT]

This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!

If anyone is willing to pay 500 or more, I strongly suggest going with agency girls. Most of these independent females are simply not worth the prices they are asking for. At least with an agency, like Alena Chicago, you pretty much know what you're getting, the prices are more consistent and there's probably less chance of one getting scammed. In fact, I honestly wouldn't even considering going over 400 with an independent female with only a few exceptions. And that's only because they used to work for agencies and have extremely good reviews.

And one last reminder. No deposits!

[Degenerate1776]

This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!

It's really crazy what some really poor looking women are asking for these days. Not to mention, ads are talking about all the things they won't do, wants deposits, and ridiculous rates. What a shitty timeline.

[EyeEatAss]

This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!

Nothing like picking up a deli clerk to wrap up my sausage and have her tenderize it! Games are ridiculous and prices are going through the roof! My last deli excursion started off this way. "How much for two large breasts and two juicy thighs"? Deli clerk: "That'll be 8. 99". Me: " Do you have take out"? Her (the 175#, 40 DDD, homely looking clerk: " That'll be one hundred". That was about six years ago. Last night (around closing time), same schpiel only I had to take her for coffee to feel me out. Two bills for BBBJ and cfs. Not bad and left drained. The only drawback was she smelt like pickled herring after we were done!

[BeechNut79]

Yes indeed. But there are guys arguing that we shouldn't complain that we aren't paying the same for a hhr as we did 5-10 years ago and it should be expected. But as you mentioned it goes back to looks at its root. There are some drugged out, overweight, below average women demanding regular rates and that's fine but it should be the norm. Someone is forking over this money when you contact a girl like that and a week later she's already raising her rates. There have been plenty of women I've checked on that were very attractive and expensive and I contacted them months or a year later and not only do their rates drop but their menu expands. I don't go for the less attractive ones but my having a conversation with the more attractive ones I see, I often see them drop their rates because of low volume due to many thinking they are scams, catfish or set ups.

But I see this hobby trending in the direction where the influx of new girls coming in will be less and less. This new generation is too aware of cashapp, zelle, PayPal, chime and other electronic payment and along with only fans, Snapchat and other sites which negate physical interaction with guys who are willing to send money to someone they've never encountered, these women more and more will look to get money without any promise of meeting them. More women are transitioning into selling content. These women are in it for the money, not sex. If they can get money from you without having to perform then like in human nature they will do the least amount required. Even if only 10% of men in this hobby are seeking non physical interaction, if enough money can be made by it then why would they go thru the regular risk most providers do.

Repeat tag line here. After getting burned once by the gift card thing, and most on this forum are adamant against doing this, I would say right out that I will not do anything with these outfits as folks here and elsewhere state that they are nearly always scams. Too bad that the original Backpage got careless, as it was much better as you could actually talk to the ladies. And to me that's another one for legalization or at least decriminalization, as then we could wipe the scammers off the map.

While we're at it, do you feel that sex work will ever be legal in most if not all of the US? So far efforts to do so have failed to bear fruit. Isn't it time that the PTB realize that prohibition of this activity hasn't worked any more than it did with liquor a century ago?

[LongDStyle]

Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.

Yes indeed. But there are guys arguing that we shouldn't complain that we aren't paying the same for a hhr as we did 5-10 years ago and it should be expected. But as you mentioned it goes back to looks at its root. There are some drugged out, overweight, below average women demanding regular rates and that's fine but it should be the norm. Someone is forking over this money when you contact a girl like that and a week later she's already raising her rates. There have been plenty of women I've checked on that were very attractive and expensive and I contacted them months or a year later and not only do their rates drop but their menu expands. I don't go for the less attractive ones but my having a conversation with the more attractive ones I see, I often see them drop their rates because of low volume due to many thinking they are scams, catfish or set ups.

But I see this hobby trending in the direction where the influx of new girls coming in will be less and less. This new generation is too aware of cashapp, zelle, PayPal, chime and other electronic payment and along with only fans, Snapchat and other sites which negate physical interaction with guys who are willing to send money to someone they've never encountered, these women more and more will look to get money without any promise of meeting them. More women are transitioning into selling content. These women are in it for the money, not sex. If they can get money from you without having to perform then like in human nature they will do the least amount required. Even if only 10% of men in this hobby are seeking non physical interaction, if enough money can be made by it then why would they go thru the regular risk most providers do.

[LongDStyle]

This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!

It’s the deposits, paying for subscriptions on content before meeting women as a requirement or as means of verification, guys seeking financial domination (with no sexual interaction) and other forms of payment not involving interaction that are killing the hobby in my opinion. Some of those women you describe are no good for the hobby either. But they may charge more to be low volume. It works as long as there’s still not a boatload of men knocking down the door else they will continue to see her rates rise.

[Jc2490]

Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.

This is probably not the best forum for this discussion, but IMO it is going to keep getting worse as long as guys are willing to pay $500+ for mediocre looking girls. It's a chain reaction that goes all the way down to the SW. I have the extra cash to blow too, but I will not pay that much for pussy. I remember only about 2 years ago, Macie was only asking around $200 for an hour. Now you have pigs asking that much for a half hour. Like Nancy Reagan used to say: Just Say No!

[BeechNut79]

Look up the story of Grant Amato. Guy was sending thousands of dollars plus clothes and sex toys to some cam model he never met. Ended up killing his entire family to feed his addiction. It's guys like this more and more that women hear about that they feel they can live and not have any physical interaction with us and still get paid. I heard a girl on one app say "it's 2020, a girl would have to be a dummy to have sex for cash", she went on to talk about guys who paid her thousands for feet pics or hundreds for panties of a picture of her taking a dump. This ignores the fact that a lot of these women don't enjoy meeting random men let alone having sex with them. After hearing a story like Grant Amato, I'm sure the cam model he was sending money too is glad she never met him anyway. If a woman wants to make money off men without doing them then she can work a strip club. We are in a very pivotal time period in this hobby as there are a lot of new factors coming into place that are changing things forever. We should be the ones to dictate that as we are the consumers. Don't let these ladies set the rules, just move on and let your money do the voting.

Would enjoy hearing some of your thoughts as to what you feel the new trends will be. I have pointed out before that many SWs act as though we work for them when in actuality they work for us. But they probably do need to establish some guidelines so they won't get totally taken advantage of.

[Getreal]

Don't even begin to worry about her reputation.

I inquired about her several months ago on the forum and everyone who replied questioned her feminity or lack there of.

Since she was close to home I decided to check her out anyhow. Set up a time, typical 2 call set up, comes appt. Time, she doesn't answer, calls back 20 minutes later saying she was ready, but required a deposit, I refused, she bitched and moaned and tried to double her rate, I said see ya!

Probably one of my better decisions in the mongering world.

Also claimed that she worked out a nice condo and wasn't a cheap motel tramp. Yet she's doing car dates til 3:30 am?

Sorry for your loss, but you' re probably better off.

This is seriously turning into the movie Idiocracy. In case you don't know look up the prostitute scene. Damn girl I'd pay you for tomorrow.

[RichL1234]

Long time lurker, first time poster. Unfortunately my first post about last night is a rip off but I had a better experience today which I will also post. It was 15 degrees, I was horny and I don't have a car so I decided to have some cutie come over to service me. I had been wanting to try Viviana, who has 32 five star reviews, for some time. She explained she could be here in an hour but needed a $30 deposit. I said I have paid a lot of women for sex but I have never paid a deposit for the obvious reason. She said she would never take a risk with her reputation what with all the reviews. I agreed. It made sense. You will never believe what happened. Any way, I was pissed, not about the money because it was only $30, but because it was so late and I was tired at that point and didn't want to call someone else to come over and wait for her. It seems pretty tough to get an outcall these days without paying a deposit (at least for someone half way good looking). Anyways, here she is https://listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/...provider_list. I hope I don't ruin her reputation.

Don't even begin to worry about her reputation.

I inquired about her several months ago on the forum and everyone who replied questioned her feminity or lack there of.

Since she was close to home I decided to check her out anyhow. Set up a time, typical 2 call set up, comes appt. Time, she doesn't answer, calls back 20 minutes later saying she was ready, but required a deposit, I refused, she bitched and moaned and tried to double her rate, I said see ya!

Probably one of my better decisions in the mongering world.

Also claimed that she worked out a nice condo and wasn't a cheap motel tramp. Yet she's doing car dates til 3:30 am?

Sorry for your loss, but you' re probably better off.