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03-02-22 11:54 #7340Senior Member

Posts: 798Eileen / Emily
I saw the girl, and she remembered me. I've got nothing else to say man. For the sake of the board I am going to remove myself from this convo and focus on getting massages and reporting back to help the board. I think the Senior members would appreciate it.
Originally Posted by Shabihoohoo
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03-02-22 11:52 #7339Senior Member

Posts: 1011VAERS data was fine until now? The means of reporting are same as have been. Who are these people that under penalty of a federal crime are making false claims, including death, to VAERS?
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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03-02-22 11:41 #7338Senior Member

Posts: 1011It's not name calling. He's not calling you a coward, he's saying you are a coward. There's a difference.
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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03-02-22 11:19 #7337Senior Member

Posts: 475None of what you say has any validity to my point, and I never made the claims that you state I made. Typical attempt to twist and distort. The claim I did make is that comparatively speaking, the VAERS process has not changed over the years for all the vaccines. The Covid vaccines have recorded more deaths in the VAERS database in the first 7 months of rollout than all other vaccines combined in the last 40 years. Now, you explain to me why these vaccines are such outliers, and have more than a 10 x incidence rate than all other vaccines combined together?
VAERS data for Covid vaccines is well-known to be vastly underreported by doctors because of the intense pressure to do so.
Why I am doing this is because I'm interested in the truth, and not the bullshit being pumped out by stooges like you. And the truth will come out eventually, no matter how hard you try to spin or suppress it.
No, they're not safe, make up your own mind whether you want to take the shot or not.
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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03-02-22 11:05 #7336Senior Member

Posts: 555I'll reiterate that nothing epitomizes your approach to data like how you've handled the CDC's data:
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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1: You dismiss the CDC's breakthrough deaths vs overall deaths figure out of hand, while demanding that I take your interpretation of the CDC's VAERS data dead seriously.
2: Your interpretation of VAERS data is "anyone who died =after getting the vaccine was killed by the vaccine". You previously claimed "I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19. " but are now casually applying that same logic you (baselessly) accused the CDC of using.
When asked to delineate between "died WITH vaccination" vs "died OF vaccination" the CDC says the death count is just 3, all of them the Johnson and Johnson one, which has consistently been the one that's raised concerns over blood clots. This isn't even the first or second time that Reuters has had to debunk this, but as is clearly stated:
FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it is unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.
The VAERS data is an all-inclusive "ANY death after Covid-19 vaccination" standard. You are interpreting this as meaning 100% of deaths or close to it are from vaccinations, while rejecting the far lower official figures. And fittingly enough, something like 80%+ of those deaths are indeed elderly people who are for obvious reasons more death-prone than the overall population.
The Covid-19 death data is not "anyone who died after contracting Covid-19" but straight from the mouths of doctor pronouncing cause of death, which you are accusing professionals of systematically lying because reasons. Or perhaps you are just rejecting the CDC who compiles the overall numbers. The same CDC for whom you are using VAERS data as a source.
Why you are doing this is pretty obvious. The breakthrough deaths figure contradicts your ideological worldview, so you accuse the CDC of falsely pushing it to serve a political agenda. The VAERS deaths figure as 'interpreted' by you aligns with your ideological worldview, so you assume it to be 100% valid and have no ulterior motive despite coming from the same source, who by your own logic should have just buried the VAERS data entirely.
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2PB2H3
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2AE0QQ
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2LV0NY
The vaccine is safe take the shot.
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03-02-22 11:01 #7335Senior Member

Posts: 475The accuracy of what I have to say stands on its own, and has been proven. As has the inaccuracy of what you've had to say. And I'm not name calling, I'm just calling it as I see it. You made similar assertions about me in the past, and the accuracy of my information vs. Yours, and you were the one proven to have egg on your face with your "credible" sources. I gave you mutliple opportunities to big enough to admit, but you are too much of a coward to do so. And you're a hypocrite to boot, as you're the one who started the finger pointing with your holier-than-thou attitude, taking the high road about how morally superior you were, and calling others tin-foil-hat wearers. Fuck off.
Originally Posted by Bullett64
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03-02-22 10:52 #7334Senior Member

Posts: 452Where should I start picking this apart?
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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Job creation, unemployment rate, unemployment claims? All of these are tied together, creation of jobs is defined as? People returning to active employment after being shut out because of Covid is NOT job creation, it will reduce the unemployment rate and claims rate. But that's a 100% bullshit claim IMHO.
1. 9 trillion in new debt is what the Covid relief should read.
Getting federal judges confirmed and appointed? That REALLY helps us out doesn't it. NO, it's what Presidents are supposed to do anyway.
Child Poverty? WTH is that? I don't know of any 14 year olds with an apartment, mortgage, car payments or bank account- Bullshit statistic.
Reduced hunger? Jeez if I handed out 4 figure checks to every household in the country I could claim the same thing, folks are going to go buy flat screen TV's, and lobster freaking dinners. DUH!
Judges AGAIN? Bullshit statistic, he was just doing what he is supposed to do.
Cabinet members of color? Who gives a rats ass if they are qualified to do the job they are appointed to, NOT me. Appointed based on skin color, totally a pandering move.
Power grid, electric chargers and climate resilience- If you install an ass load of electric vehicle charging stations (that cost to use them), you automatically invest the power grid. Climate resilience?? WTH is that, nobody has figured out a way to actually control sunlight and the weather. More bullshit fluff.
Clean water-Flint, Michigan. Nuff said.
Cleaner cars- AT who's expense?
Give me a reason to appreciate Joe and I will. So far nothing he has done is overly impressive.
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03-02-22 10:47 #7333Senior Member

Posts: 475This has been told to you before, and I'll state it again, VAERS database has been used for decades and is THE baseline for all vaccines, so it is absolutely valid and a legitimate, which is why it's used by the CDC. It's funny how you cling to the CDC as your authoritative source when it supports your narrative, but shout it down when it doesn't. Comparatively speaking, VAERS reporting has not changed. Besides which, it has been shown that 84% of the VAERS reports for the Covid vaccines were filled out by physicians, so stop with your bullshit coverup. The vaccines are not safe.
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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03-02-22 10:25 #7332Senior Member

Posts: 728The jobs data is very nuanced. He came in as we were coming out of isolation. I really can't give him or his policies full credit for the jobs data.
Originally Posted by TheRabbit
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03-02-22 10:17 #7331Senior Member

Posts: 307Think of me what you will. Your name-calling does not add to the accuracy of your position. In fact, it makes you sound desperate and insecure. But as I said earlier, you are a waste of my time and I will not interact with you further. If you so hate what I have to say, just delete me from the list of people who's posts you receive.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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03-02-22 10:16 #7330Senior Member

Posts: 555The things Biden has done in just his first year.
The $1. 9 trillion Covid relief deal.
The $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill.
Getting 72 percent of American adults fully vaccinated.
Getting federal judges appointed and confirmed.
An economy where the unemployment rate has dropped to 4. 2 percent.
Jobs: President Biden's first year was the greatest year of job creation in American history, with more than 6 million jobs created.
Unemployment Rate: The unemployment rate dropped from 6. 2% when Biden took office to 3. 9%, the biggest single year drop in American history.
Unemployment Claims: The average number of Americans filing for unemployment has been near its lowest level since 1969. When the President took office, over 18 million were receiving unemployment benefits, today only 2 million area also the biggest single year drop in history.
Economic Legislation Passed: Most significant by economic impact of any first-year president.
Child Poverty: Experts estimate the lowest child poverty rate ever in 2021. Expanded Access to Health Care: Nearly 5 million Americans have newly gained health insurance coverage.
Reduced Hunger: The number of households reporting that they sometimes or often did not have enough food to eat dropped by 32%.
Judges Confirmed: More judges confirmed to lower federal courts than any president since President Kennedy.
Judges That Reflect Our Nation: More Black women appointed to the USA Court of Appeals than any president even over 8 years in history.
Cabinet: First majority non-white Cabinet in history, with most women in the Cabinet, including first woman Treasury Secretary, first LGBTQ+ and Native American Cabinet officials, and first woman Director of National Intelligence.
Climate Investments: Largest investments ever in the power grid, electric vehicle chargers, and climate resilience.
Clean Water: Largest investment and national, bipartisan plan to get safe and clean drinking water to all Americans.
Cleaner Cars: Strongest vehicle emissions standards ever to save drivers money at the pump and reduce pollution. Wind: First-ever approvals of large-scale offshore wind projects.
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03-02-22 10:06 #7329Senior Member

Posts: 728And what does that come out to percentage wise??
Originally Posted by CrestWood87
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03-02-22 09:40 #7328Senior Member

Posts: 374Deceptive?
Deceptive? Yeah you are correct with over 1200 deaths it is deceptive to say that this vaccine is safe and effective. Vaccine trials in the past have been stopped with his little as five deaths.
Originally Posted by NuGuy36
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03-02-22 08:09 #7327Senior Member

Posts: 555This has been mention to you before and I'll stated it again VAERS database is completely useless since ANYONE can go that site and make a false claim, so tell you what how about you go to legitimate sources to try back up those numbers oh wait there are ain't the vaccine is safe move on.
Originally Posted by ILuvEmall
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03-01-22 21:58 #7326Senior Member

Posts: 475What's deceptive and stupid is to say "very little problems". The problems are documented in the CDC's VAERS database (among other sources), which shows more fatalaties from the covid vaccines in the first 7 months of rollout than from the last 40 years of all other vaccines combined. World Health Organization adverse events show similar numbers from the covid vaccines within the first year equaling those from all other vaccines over the past decades. These vaccines are nowhere near what have been considered safe by historical standards, and people should be made aware of that, instead of this information being covered up. Information is coming to light, but it will be too late for many thanks to the attempted censorship of people like you.
Originally Posted by NuGuy36
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