"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**BamBam** · 02-23-22 20:12

How old was the girl in this profile you made great plans with? In my experience, Seeking has different levels of banning. First of all, if a profile blocks you, their profile name stays the same and you may even see the green dot when they are active. Next are the profiles that the site banned for violating site rules. In this case, they are gone and the site usually defaults their profile name to something like Attractive Member. In the past, I think they just used Sugar Baby. For these profiles, you can usually (but not always) still see your messages with them but the profile cannot be opened and viewed. The next level of banning is the neutron bomb. In this case, they delete the profile, any sign the profile was ever there and any messages ever sent or received by the profile. They probably wipe their server logs so that if ever subpoenaed, they can truthfully say "We zero records of anyone like that. " I am pretty sure they reserve this level of deletion for anyone detected or reported for being underage. They may also do it for anyone suspected of violating Sesta / Fosta but it would not surprise me if they just sequester those records and turn them over to LE.

In the case below, is her profile just blocked or is everything gone including your messages with her? If everything is gone, you may have dodged a bullet. Count your blessings. From your message, I might suggest you also need to reconsider if this is right for you. Your tone suggests you were more attached to the idea of this profile than is usually healthy. It is never wise to get overly invested in any one profile or even any one IRL woman, if you are going to play in the sugar bowl. Doing so makes you vulnerable. When you are vulnerable, the wolves and the vultures start circling. You become a target for any scammer, predator or rinser that manages to capture your fancy. Treat this as a numbers game. Keep more than one profile or SB in rotation. If you start to get "feeling," you should create some distance in time between seeing them. If you fall in "love," you are lost. Just my two cents. Happy Hunting.

BAM.

Originally Posted by Roadie1 [View Original Post]

I had just made plans with the sexiest, funniest, sweetest girl. Then, her profile completely disappeared. She didn't block me. Her profile is gone. Someone obviously turned her in for something. Reporting the girls because you don't like what they have to say to you is fucking ridiculous! Just because you're not getting along with her, doesn't mean that she isn't getting along with other men. Stop being a cockblock! Stop fucking it up for the other guys! Get out of your little fantasy world and try a little common sense. The girls can come back in 5 minutes under another profile because they don't have to pay. Reporting them is absolutely pointless. Anyone you shut down will come back immediately with a new burner phone and a new profile. I now have to search all of the new profiles to see if I can find that girl. What are you really getting from shutting them down? After they pop backup in 5 minutes with a new profile, you have no idea who they are, but they remember who you are and do you really think that they're not going to try to get some kind of revenge? Now that I think about it, the girls probably don't even care. They're going to put up a new profile and get 50 new messages in the next hour. The only people you're hurting are the guys who were about to get laid. [Deleted by Admin]

**Roadie1** · 02-23-22 15:19

I had just made plans with the sexiest, funniest, sweetest girl. Then, her profile completely disappeared. She didn't block me. Her profile is gone. Someone obviously turned her in for something. Reporting the girls because you don't like what they have to say to you is fucking ridiculous! Just because you're not getting along with her, doesn't mean that she isn't getting along with other men. Stop being a cockblock! Stop fucking it up for the other guys! Get out of your little fantasy world and try a little common sense. The girls can come back in 5 minutes under another profile because they don't have to pay. Reporting them is absolutely pointless. Anyone you shut down will come back immediately with a new burner phone and a new profile. I now have to search all of the new profiles to see if I can find that girl. What are you really getting from shutting them down? After they pop backup in 5 minutes with a new profile, you have no idea who they are, but they remember who you are and do you really think that they're not going to try to get some kind of revenge? Now that I think about it, the girls probably don't even care. They're going to put up a new profile and get 50 new messages in the next hour. The only people you're hurting are the guys who were about to get laid. [Deleted by Admin]

**Shampoo55** · 02-23-22 11:37

Originally Posted by Ntcuonghm1 [View Original Post]

I just felt bad as I had successes with the site. I think they track the email and the credit card I used to pay for subscription. Although I changed my email, I still used the same credit card, and I was banned again.

Yeah, sorry about the bad experience! Hate to be "that guy" but if one reads the thread you are not alone. Many other have gotten banned too. But some have figured out how to get reinstated. Yes, they track or dBase everything. So yeah, you want to get back on youse got to use EVERYTHING NEW! There is some comment that SA also profiles your computer via MAC Address and other things like screen size, etc. So getting back online could mean some more drastic tech changes (new device or new MAC Address).

Others have done it, so follow the history of how they did it.

Perhaps someone will go through the thread and assemble a list of post on "how to" get unbanned and post that in the "Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ" thread?

**Shampoo55** · 02-23-22 11:30

Originally Posted by Rentahoo [View Original Post]

You can try a VPN but if someone doesn't want your business then it's hard to get them to take it. And SA doesn't want your business. There is tons of chatter about people being in SA jail. My bet is that there is a subtextual but deliberate decision by SA to get out of the business and just drain as much cash as they can before that inevitable date. The founder made his money and has had a change of heart per his statements online. Win-win for him. Gets to ride off into the sunset and avoids issues with feds. Everyone is well aware how the site was being used but in the last year they have taken a hard line against hobbyists.

Well that is one way to look at things.

Actually I don't think many understand how FOSTA / SESTA changed the online dating atmosphere. Dudes like B Wade got to be paranoid that they will get taken down like Back Page was: bank accounts seized, houses seized, etc. Why build up a HUGE amount of cash only to have it seized by LE?

No, most of what he's doing is trying to keep obvious prostitution off of his site and certainly keep under-aged stuff off and anyone who is pimped. Point is that FOSTA / SESTA allows "victims" to sue the website operator for damages. First girl that wins that gets the ball rolling and like the "Me Too" movement it snowballs. Dude is wiped out.

So yeah, you go on there and make inferences about sex for money, or what their BOTs interpret as such, and you'll get banned. I think many could miss the subtlities of the dance for this and inadvertently cross the line. But that isn't totally fatal. It is possible to get back on, but one needs to use a different computer, VPN and method of payment. I use a browser that has a built in VPN, set to show USA nodes only, and that works well for me.

There has been plenty of discussion on this thread about those who got banned but jumped through hoops and got back on. It can be done. It isn't totally fatal. Easy? It is not. But impossible, No.

Best "fix" to banishment is to not get banned ever.

I have had girls mention money for dates and I either quit replying to them or simply state I'd like to talk to them off site. Period. Not talk to them offsite about money, not talk to them off site about dates, Just talk to them off site and request a text number.

Only had one girl who was suppose to be a "lawyer" try to bait me into a sex-for money-discussion on the site, even AFTER we had established offsite communications. Her request on the site was met with an offsite reply that explained P2 P was illegal and discussion of that on the site would lead to banishment. She persisted and eventually blew up on me. That's fine a lawyer that doesn't understand the law isn't a lawyer. She either was LE or an unstable liar, so good ridance. BUT, the way I handled it kept me from getting booted.

So watch your step, jump through hoops and keep on Sugaring!

**Ntcuonghm1** · 02-22-22 22:57

I just felt bad as I had successes with the site. I think they track the email and the credit card I used to pay for subscription. Although I changed my email, I still used the same credit card, and I was banned again.

Originally Posted by Rentahoo [View Original Post]

You can try a VPN but if someone doesn't want your business then it's hard to get them to take it. And SA doesn't want your business. There is tons of chatter about people being in SA jail. My bet is that there is a subtextual but deliberate decision by SA to get out of the business and just drain as much cash as they can before that inevitable date. The founder made his money and has had a change of heart per his statements online. Win-win for him. Gets to ride off into the sunset and avoids issues with feds. Everyone is well aware how the site was being used but in the last year they have taken a hard line against hobbyists.

**ThatSexyGuy** · 02-21-22 20:33

I'm going through matches and all of them are not that great. Wondering should I even renew membership.

**Btt123** · 02-21-22 19:08

Originally Posted by BobLobLa [View Original Post]

Real. Goes to Radford, won't do marrieds https://members.seeking.com/member/7...6-19f4e285bc8b.

Last active Sept. 2021 -- just double checking that's the link you meant?

**RegularJoe1985** · 02-21-22 16:28

Originally Posted by SBmidlo [View Original Post]

Neither of them work for me so they must have deactivated their profiles.

Thanks,

Wonder what the difference is between the two since I see different tags when looking at messages.

**SBmidlo** · 02-21-22 16:21

Originally Posted by RegularJoe1985 [View Original Post]

This link comes as. Unable to send a message as user is no longer active. - when I read her message.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...d-a18b721657a5

This link comes as. The user's account has been deactivated. - when I read her message.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...0-472ff17f6401

Can anyone try and see if either link works for them.

Assuming first one has blocked me and second one has deactivated her profile, just want to be sure of the process, know there have been questions about this earlier.

Neither of them work for me so they must have deactivated their profiles.

**Ernest Ll** · 02-21-22 16:18

Originally Posted by RegularJoe1985 [View Original Post]

This link comes as. Unable to send a message as user is no longer active. - when I read her message.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...d-a18b721657a5

This link comes as. The user's account has been deactivated. - when I read her message.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...0-472ff17f6401

Can anyone try and see if either link works for them.

Assuming first one has blocked me and second one has deactivated her profile, just want to be sure of the process, know there have been questions about this earlier.

I get the same message on both. What were their usernames -- might recall if they blocked me or if they are merely gone.

**RegularJoe1985** · 02-21-22 15:16

This link comes as. Unable to send a message as user is no longer active. - when I read her message.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...d-a18b721657a5

This link comes as. The user's account has been deactivated. - when I read her message.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...0-472ff17f6401

Can anyone try and see if either link works for them.

Assuming first one has blocked me and second one has deactivated her profile, just want to be sure of the process, know there have been questions about this earlier.

**BobLobLa** · 02-21-22 14:12

Looks TGTBT. Doesn't reply https://members.seeking.com/member/2...5-2dbb4d9c2125.

Seems very DTF, knows the score -- can seem to get much momentum or move her to text https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-c97735b26633.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...e-21cc17684807 -- finally got a reply from her, she hasnt been online in a while. Bit of a butter face, but I'd be happy so long as gps isn't in the picture.

MILF freak. Not the best photo of her, others she sent were much better. Pretty much down for anything, really isn't about the $$ https://members.seeking.com/member/6...0-0b8d1261354f.

Pic sellter -- https://members.seeking.com/member/5...9-9bcab6128862.

Real. Goes to Radford, won't do marrieds https://members.seeking.com/member/7...6-19f4e285bc8b.

**AssLuVA** · 02-21-22 14:00

Originally Posted by Rentahoo [View Original Post]

You can try a VPN but if someone doesn't want your business then it's hard to get them to take it. And SA doesn't want your business. There is tons of chatter about people being in SA jail. My bet is that there is a subtextual but deliberate decision by SA to get out of the business and just drain as much cash as they can before that inevitable date. The founder made his money and has had a change of heart per his statements online. Win-win for him. Gets to ride off into the sunset and avoids issues with feds. Everyone is well aware how the site was being used but in the last year they have taken a hard line against hobbyists.

I love Traveler's idea of the VPN but I got banned using it. Might have been a mistake on my side as I logged in without VPN and then about 5 minutes later had my VPN on for some work stuff and then logged in again. Needless to say no one can go from VA to Germany in 5 minutes! Haha. Moral of the story. Be consistent with where / how you log in.

**Rentahoo** · 02-21-22 12:48

Originally Posted by Ntcuonghm1 [View Original Post]

I have a question. Someone from the SA site reported me for soliciting, and I was blocked. I used another email to registered, but when I paid for membership, the site recognized me and blocked me again. How can I get around this? Thanks.

You can try a VPN but if someone doesn't want your business then it's hard to get them to take it. And SA doesn't want your business. There is tons of chatter about people being in SA jail. My bet is that there is a subtextual but deliberate decision by SA to get out of the business and just drain as much cash as they can before that inevitable date. The founder made his money and has had a change of heart per his statements online. Win-win for him. Gets to ride off into the sunset and avoids issues with feds. Everyone is well aware how the site was being used but in the last year they have taken a hard line against hobbyists.

**Ntcuonghm1** · 02-21-22 07:35

I have a question. Someone from the SA site reported me for soliciting, and I was blocked. I used another email to registered, but when I paid for membership, the site recognized me and blocked me again. How can I get around this? Thanks.