The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[Hullaballo]

While I'm on, might as well contribute to the board instead of just complaining. Did meet up with this girl, she's real, pics are real, she can host and is a fun time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-2129f6e4a415

How much for how long?

[Badger7]

While I'm on, might as well contribute to the board instead of just complaining. Did meet up with this girl, she's real, pics are real, she can host and is a fun time.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-2129f6e4a415

[Badger7]

You're exactly correct in your assessment. I just didn't like her disparaging tone towards guys who would be willing to spend that much on her. The SB market in Raleigh is in dire need of a correction. The highest tier girls in this area (ie hot college girls, mid-20's, 9's or 10's) only should be making that much ppm.

Not to be a jerk, but when she's one of the oldest women on the site AND she has 3 children that would probably limit her availability, what sort of other offers is she fielding?

In the triangle, there's a COPIOUS amount of women in their early to mid 20's, who would gladly accept 350. I think a lot of people, men and women, would do much better in the bowl if they were actually aware of their competition.

[PghGuy2005]

We all know it's been dry for a long time out there. Just throwing this out there, once you get past the girls with the bullshit cash app BS, inflation and no jobs is starting to wear down these chicks. That's the trend at least, let's hope it lasts.

It has been dry so far but may change for the better for us? Well with the tight labor market and minimum wage of $15/ hr that may not happen any time soon.

[DJprofessorK]

Haven't met with her but discussed a possible arrangement. She says she's tired of cheap guys on SA, her words not mine, offering 350. Didn't even want to ask how much she wanted and convo didn't go much further than that. She sounded like a ***** to deal with, have since been blocked.

Not to be a jerk, but when she's one of the oldest women on the site AND she has 3 children that would probably limit her availability, what sort of other offers is she fielding?

In the triangle, there's a COPIOUS amount of women in their early to mid 20's, who would gladly accept 350. I think a lot of people, men and women, would do much better in the bowl if they were actually aware of their competition.

[Badger7]

Haven't met with her but discussed a possible arrangement. She says she's tired of cheap guys on SA, her words not mine, offering 350. Didn't even want to ask how much she wanted and convo didn't go much further than that. She sounded like a ***** to deal with, have since been blocked.

Anyone see Lilith? https://members.seeking.com/member/6...5-592fd96a84dd.

[LiquidCoil]

My experience is anecdotal, but three different SB's told me that actual wealthy men were not only the stingiest, but also treated them like complete and utter garbage.

Ha, reminds me of the local boy from Wilmington talking about a homeless guy: "If he can say 'You have any spare change? He can say 'Welcome to McDonald's, can I help you please? " - Michael Jordan.

It's because she likes you. She'd get the same allowance meeting you 1/4 as often.

I meant to add -- in the background both parties are aware that if she does that consistently, the relationship will likely end soon and she would get zero allowance, much less 1/4th.

[DJprofessorK]

The guys on this forum are all about paying as little as possible. If you're an actual SD, you have money and don't play hardball with these women.

My experience is anecdotal, but three different SB's told me that actual wealthy men were not only the stingiest, but also treated them like complete and utter garbage.

One went into specifics, mentioning a guy who owned a chain of very successful car dealerships, would expect her to show up within 15 minutes of whenever he called. Would gift her used items. And demanded to see her so often that each visit averaged to about 150 bucks. She stopped seeing him, not because the money was bad, but because he was so entitled and so disrespectful that she felt it wasn't worth the trouble.

Another SB said that a man flew her out for the weekend, degraded her the entire time, and referred to her as if she were an animal.

All money is not good money. And if you think men with money don't play hardball, I think you're mistaken.

I think a large issue is that SA is loaded with working girls who think they can demand more money by calling themselves sugar babies. But that's just my take.

[LiquidCoil]

That's because you're thinking in terms of sex. Sugar relationships can involve real emotions and caring, actual love. When that's the case an allowance is better. You can meet without thinking, "Is this worth a PPM" or "Is she only meeting twice this week for the PPM". It's because she likes you. She'd get the same allowance meeting you 1/4 as often. Also, you actually care for her and know the money makes her life better.

The guys on this forum are all about paying as little as possible. If you're an actual SD, you have money and don't play hardball with these women.

Hmm, that might be a fair point, and I admit I do not have much experience yet in this arena.

I'm certainly not scouring for the cheapest possible provider like some here do, but neither am I in a class where dropping thousands a month would mean nothing. From what I read, that sounds like a very small percentage of SDs, so I don't know what you mean by an "actual" SD beyond making a no-true-Scotsman kind of point. I'd also wonder if you're risking some naivete approaching an SB relationship with true love in mind.

[Member #6600]

So far nearly every girl the subject has come up with suggests an allowance. I can barely imagine a situation in which I would agree to one instead of PPM unless it was an 8/9 out of 10 giving me some kind of bulk discount. But instead the requested allowance is always an estimated few meetings per month that works out to a high PPM anyway.

That's because you're thinking in terms of sex. Sugar relationships can involve real emotions and caring, actual love. When that's the case an allowance is better. You can meet without thinking, "Is this worth a PPM" or "Is she only meeting twice this week for the PPM". It's because she likes you. She'd get the same allowance meeting you 1/4 as often. Also, you actually care for her and know the money makes her life better.

The guys on this forum are all about paying as little as possible. If you're an actual SD, you have money and don't play hardball with these women.

[LiquidCoil]

This one wants allowance AND ppm. Lols.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-8f073d562015

So far nearly every girl the subject has come up with suggests an allowance. I can barely imagine a situation in which I would agree to one instead of PPM unless it was an 8/9 out of 10 giving me some kind of bulk discount. But instead the requested allowance is always an estimated few meetings per month that works out to a high PPM anyway.

[Pubb69]

This one wants allowance AND ppm. Lols.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-8f073d562015

There is a sucker waiting in the future.

[German5050]

Sounds like the sugar dating scene has been full of scammers in RDU lately. I'll update after my week on my luck.

This one wants allowance AND ppm. Lols.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...e-8f073d562015

[German5050]

Sounds like the sugar dating scene has been full of scammers in RDU lately. I'll update after my week on my luck.

[MythMan2010]

We all know it's been dry for a long time out there. Just throwing this out there, once you get past the girls with the bullshit cash app BS, inflation and no jobs is starting to wear down these chicks. That's the trend at least, let's hope it lasts.