Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

**Miranthir** · 02-16-22 10:15

Hey guys,

New here, I am traveling often to Charlotte so I have my location in SA set to Charlotte. Last night I was chatting with this girl (- milktealover94 - she was pretty cute, quickly gave me her number (I asked for it). Then we chatted more and then here it is, she wanted to SKYPE. I fell into that trap years ago, not on SA, not in Charlotte, but basically it goes like this: she is super horny, she wants to get on SKPYE. You get horny too, you get on SKYPE, she starts getting naked, she asks the same from you. Of course you do it because you are horny. Next thing you know, the connection stops, "she" calls you back and instead of her, it is some hacker like person (black hoodie, dark room), demanding ransom. If you do not cooperate, they will post the video of you naked jerking off on FB, instagram, twitter, blablabla. Good thing I used a fake SKYPE account. I simply disconnected, deleted my profile and end of the story for me. Morale of the story is: don't share any naked anything unless you are quite sure this is working out. And DON'T GET ON SKYPE LOL.

**GutterMind4** · 02-15-22 16:12

So just another update on my Seeking experience. Ironically, on the day my first and only month subscription expires, I finally lined up a date with a latina MILF in Orlando. Met for drinks, she was as advertised and attractive. She never discussed money but asked about coming back to my hotel. Did it 6 ways to Sunday with sloppy BBBJ and covered FS. Gave her 3 bills which she was humbled by. Not a bad value considering the time spent. She's still texting and sending sexy pics almost "stalkingly", LOL. Had another young hot ass but couldn't make it before my plane left.

A couple of points about my tactics, I too have a faceless profile pic. I reached out to several but finally figured out that these girls see the same pitch over and over so my initial contact is a creative funny message to get their attention. I still have several that I have moved offline to text and I'll work through those before I re-up my subscription and my time has been very gentlemanly and courteous but I don't flash money. That said, I have several reaching out to me weekly. Maybe it's the profile pic but I support the post that said they are getting contacted by girls and it's legit profiles in addition to fakes and scams. I'll also admit that this requires a crazy amount of time to invest in this version of the hobby. But I worked a number of Eros girls while in Orlando as well and that was just as difficult with communications and verifications. I expect this to get a little better once I line up a couple of regulars. So far I'm somewhat satisfied with the progress and the conversions.

Originally Posted by GutterMind4 [View Original Post]

Hey, just wanted to update on the SB situation. After ranting about how little response I had vs how many messages I sent, I finally started seeing some results. Turns out, they really don't treat the SB sites like social media, just occasionally for new "dads". They also don't realize we can't see messages unless we are premium so they often get turned off or move on. I now have about 10 to 12 girls, in about 5 different towns mind you, that are willing to meet. Less than half agreed before setting a price and the others are 3 to 5 bills. I still haven't met anyone so they all could be a bust but I think I've determined they are not scammers, but some still may be fake. I'll know more over the next few days and weeks but if any of these girls look like their pics, and I hit paydirt, this will be better than expected. This doesn't even account for the ones that wanted to but couldn't host.

Speaking of, any advise on girls that can't host. I really can't get a hotel as they require I'd and credit card. I've never done Air BNB, anyone ever set up an anonymous ABNB account? I know it's an app tied to your phone but can you work around that like many other aspects while remaining private?

**SandPiper540** · 02-15-22 16:09

Originally Posted by DriveHard [View Original Post]

Looks like they are getting pressure from somewhere. Noticed they dropped the 'A' from their SA logo today.

I'm sure they're involved in legal battles out the wazoo. Changing names & ownership is a tactic to keep the ship from completely sinking. I guess that's why their monthly membership keep going up, to pay the legal fees.

**DollarBill50** · 02-15-22 14:51

I have been on seeking (Paying Customer) for about a month. Most of the girls need money on that site. Just have to get them off that $400+ rate. For those prices and not get GFE is kinda steep for me. But I have run into a lot of them. Also be prepare to Host.

**DriveHard** · 02-14-22 16:54

Originally Posted by CltGuy1231 [View Original Post]

Dude 99% of men's profiles don't have a profile pic so they just pick yours out of everyone to message first? I don't have a profile pic either and the only ones that message first are the desperate ones that I don't want.

Just lucky, I guess. But it was an honest statement. I can go weeks without initiating contact. The point I was making is there are other tactics to attracting attention on that site, other than a good opening line and above average looks. I get a fair share of messages from the 3's, 4's and 5's, sure. My archive folder is full of those.

Years ago when I first joined, I created a woman's profile to see what other men wrote on their profiles. If you only create the account, but don't add pics or fill out any of the info. You can browse without being discovered. Maybe the reconnaissance was a factor.

**CltGuy1231** · 02-14-22 10:17

Dude 99% of men's profiles don't have a profile pic so they just pick yours out of everyone to message first? I don't have a profile pic either and the only ones that message first are the desperate ones that I don't want.

The rest I agree with, being polite and a gentleman is a welcome change and similarly I pretty much always get a response to my messages. Everyone knows why we are on the site but the girls want to feel like they are different and respected. Just play the role needed.

Originally Posted by DriveHard [View Original Post]

I've had a great deal of success on SA. I very rarely send an outgoing message, the women generally write to me first (I have no profile pic, so they are curious).

Occasionally, when I want to see where it goes with the 8,9,10's on there. I am overly polite and gentleman like. It is a differentiator from most of the messages they receive every single day.

I have an opening line that I use on those 8,9,10's that gets a 70% response rate (sorry, I'll never share that secret).

**DriveHard** · 02-14-22 09:45

Originally Posted by DriveHard [View Original Post]

Got one of those blast emails from the CEO, Brandon Wade today. Said he was rebranding the site to ' Just Date Up'.

First in was SeekingArrangements, then Seeking, and soon to be Just Date Up (JDU). To me, it looks like he's trying to get away from the public perception of PPM on there, with a wink and a nod of course.

Looks like they are getting pressure from somewhere. Noticed they dropped the 'A' from their SA logo today.

**BenInJoe** · 02-13-22 23:34

Originally Posted by BenInJoe [View Original Post]

Well, yes. But how do you distinguish between those willing to hook up from those that aren't. I've had some luck getting conversations but I think I'm either being too blunt with some or too nonchalant with others.

To add-on: I have started probably 100+ conversations over the last week and have gotten around 25-30 numbers or snapchats. I have had two lunches and I have plans with both of them. 2nd one is entirely dtf but is in Boone (I'm west of CLT). The rest are hesitant, have ignored messages, and my absolute favorite person I've met so far blocked me for saying good morning the day after an amazing conversation. Can't say I'll ever understand women.

Will update if anyone in the CLT area works out.

**DriveHard** · 02-13-22 16:11

Originally Posted by RyanBB [View Original Post]

I have been kicked off SA several times and rejoined. No more! I'm done!

So every time I reported someone on there as a known escort, scammer or trying to get a deposit before meeting I got booted from the site. I believe SA knows all this is going on and doesn't care even though it violates their own terms.

Got one of those blast emails from the CEO, Brandon Wade today. Said he was rebranding the site to ' Just Date Up'.

First in was SeekingArrangements, then Seeking, and soon to be Just Date Up (JDU). To me, it looks like he's trying to get away from the public perception of PPM on there, with a wink and a nod of course.

**DriveHard** · 02-13-22 16:00

Originally Posted by BenInJoe [View Original Post]

What opener do you guys use when messaging a girl on SA?

I've had a great deal of success on SA. I very rarely send an outgoing message, the women generally write to me first (I have no profile pic, so they are curious).

Occasionally, when I want to see where it goes with the 8,9,10's on there. I am overly polite and gentleman like. It is a differentiator from most of the messages they receive every single day.

I have an opening line that I use on those 8,9,10's that gets a 70% response rate (sorry, I'll never share that secret).

**Member #6771** · 02-13-22 15:22

Originally Posted by BenInJoe [View Original Post]

Well, yes. But how do you distinguish between those willing to hook up from those that aren't. I've had some luck getting conversations but I think I'm either being too blunt with some or too nonchalant with others.

Always tell the girls that you're flexible when it comes to the type of arrangement. Tell them that you don't engage in communication unless there's a chance to video chat. You can video chat on Seeking or Facetime. I prefer Google Duo because you can use a burner number.

**SnatchHappy** · 02-13-22 13:41

I have been kicked off SA several times and rejoined. No more! I'm done!

So every time I reported someone on there as a known escort, scammer or trying to get a deposit before meeting I got booted from the site. I believe SA knows all this is going on and doesn't care even though it violates their own terms. I think they want to have as many accounts of women fake or not scammers or not, escorts and pimps or not because it fools a lot of people to think there are a lot more women on the site then there actually is. Personally, I don't have a problem with escorts being on there as long as it's disclosed. Let's face it, when you think you are meeting a college girl you are less likely to wear cover or have handy then when you know you are meeting an escort with a possibility of demons and various diseases.

Also, I think Sa will kick people off as an excuse to get men to sign up again and make double the money. This used to be such a great site pre 2017 (backpage laws) but now it's very different. So, I tell all friends here, be careful reporting if you want to stay on and be careful because most of the real women on there are pros so have cover ready!

**BenInJoe** · 02-12-22 16:25

Originally Posted by BrianPeter [View Original Post]

You use the message feature within Seeking.

Well, yes. But how do you distinguish between those willing to hook up from those that aren't. I've had some luck getting conversations but I think I'm either being too blunt with some or too nonchalant with others.

**Member #6771** · 02-12-22 13:22

Originally Posted by BenInJoe [View Original Post]

What opener do you guys use when messaging a girl on SA?

You use the message feature within Seeking.

**Artemyr** · 02-12-22 12:51

Hey lads,

Got banned from SA. Signed up for SB since I heard some people having some luck there. Anybody willing to share any profiles worth contacting? I'm on a quest for the holy grail: college age petite spinner that will let me bbfscip. I have a 2 UTR that I am willing to exchange for info.