Massage Parlor Reports

[YellowFinTuna]

Lights aren't on in this AMP heaven but they are all open honey spa rose massage and sunny spa.

Don't go to white swan rude girls and took $60 from wallet wo asking.

Your brought your wallet with you? Interesting. I never bring anything but cash.

[Porkys1980]

Wait what is a difference between FC and F&C?

FC is First Class massage in Santa Ana, off of Harbor and W 1st Street.

Sunny Health Reflexology Westminster is F&C that most in here call it, haven't been there yet, but will let you know, I might go tomorrow.

The girl at FC today in SA was horrible, nothing special, wasted $$.

I like young ones, but sometimes the grannies do it for me, LOL I will check out F&C maybe try this LUCY everyones keep ranting about.

Element Massage is still my number 1 place to go, new fresh young talent daily.

[PhineasPhreak]

Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible. So I don't know what exactly it is that they're doing. Maybe serving as a front to get people to buy MPs of not quite the same business model? If you know much about the AMP business, the unfortunate fact is the majority of it is a criminal enterprise with a kingpin located somewhere in Asia. The "owners" of the spas are just pawns, so when they get busted and thrown in jail the kingpin just recruits new owners and opens other shops elsewhere. I suspect this is what's going on here, except they've figured out a clever way to get the pawns to actually pay money to be pawns. Just a guess. That would make these shops huge loss leaders. They aren't making any money by running these two locations, but they more than make up for it with the other MPs they get people to open.

Dude keep posting please, you crack me up with your "big boss overseas" stories. I feel like I'm watching a 1940's yellow peril propaganda film when I read your posts. Those Triads are running all the mp's in the US, and they have to of gangsters working for them beating people up with their karate chops. LOL.

[Reagbaeg]

Any tips for providers at YZ?

Been frequenting bamboo and air body but wanted to try somewhere new.

I have tried a few now with no luck but I enjoy the chase / mystery more than the other places. Vivian gave the most tease out of all and brushed against junior on the flip but no luck. Also tried Bella who gave a good massage but minimal tease and quite conservative. Forget the name of the last girl but also quite conservative. Know it's not helpful without the name but would recognize if I saw it.

[BigBoDonk]

FC and F& C are two different places.

Lucy is at Reflexology behind the Fish and chips lol.

Wait what is a difference between FC and F&C?

[Superflytnt]

YES! I found this place about a year ago and the website, youtube channel, IG content. It all doesn't make any sense. I live near there and drive by all the time. I lurked it one time and saw 4 of the ladies pile out of a car in matching dresses with Starbucks drinks and go inside, like they were finishing a lunch break. Honestly, I'm stumped! I was so curious at one point that I just walked in and chatted up the girls for a minute or 2 like "so. Is this real?" They were super friendly and the one asian girl who does most of the talking was trying to get me to book right then. There was a cutie who must have been 19 who opened the door for me and escorted me down the hall to the front desk. I would absolutely love to fuck her. Without a doubt. But it just seems too good to be true. Do they really let you pay them to fuck and then leave? Or do they take your money and turn you into Soilent Green in a back room? I honestly don't know! I want it to be real. But I'm just not sure. Has anyone else been here?

I've gotten a massage there. The massage was actually pretty good, but not justified by the price though. For anything extra it was north of 3 $. A young hot one can command that price. But an older bird in her 40's? Nope.

[Danzigx138]

Anyone else notice the nuru rates have gone up. I see so many providers charging 180-200 for a half hour long session. Curious if anyone out there is paying that? At what amount do you say no more being that you can get FS for around the same. 180-200 seems pricey for a handjob. I don't care how hot you are.

I notice its typically 100/30, 120/45, and 140/60 and most are cool with that, I honestly can't blame them for trying to get some extra cash I do the same thing in my line of work, especially when some people will just agree and pay it not wanting to kill the vibe. I like the spots have standardized tipping rates set, off the top of my head Serenity in Lake Forest, Villa in Westminster, Palms in Orange and Havana in Downey are all 100/120/140 for nuru.

[SomeRandomGuy]

I find this absolutely fascinating. What's the angle and HTF exactly does this thing work? The guy in the pics looks like such a putz that he could be on of us. I want to figure this out, but the Nancy Drew in me doesn't want to end up in a dumpster with a Colombian necktie. This requires caution and the superior intellect of a lifelong monger that may actually need to take this seriously. Does anyone have any actual 411 on this? Not speculation, but real information? Thanks in advance. Meanwhile, I will consider how and if I shall pursue this further.

I used to go there up until 3-4 years ago and stopped going when the girls I would see there moved on. Used to be a door fee of 50/60/70 for 30,45,60 minutes and it was mainly a HJ with some YMMV place. The girls always would ask for more than the going rate as well. I do know they also would get deadbeats enough times where they got stiffed on tips or the guys wouldn't tip as promised. So my educated guess is they are wanting to get all the money up front by charging the higher door fee with no tip needed to guarantee the girls get paid well regardless of who comes in. The owner has always been able to get younger girls to work there, but also gives the impression all of them are young, which isn't the case. There's always one or two (sometimes more) that aren't younger.

I personally wouldn't go there with the new rates, as it's quite a bit more than I ever spent when I used to go there. I also doubt anything has changed from how they operate from a massage and HJ / YMMV perspective either.

For anyone who wants to try it, just ask if they will give you a discount on the door fee. Worst that will happen is they say no.

[Sound7]

House rate.

$30 45 minutes.

$40 60 minutes.

Short staffed. 60 minutes to 40 minutes.

Standard tip in play asked. 1.

FC standard play?

FC and F& C are two different places.

Lucy is at Reflexology behind the Fish and chips lol.

[Porkys1980]

Visited the new FC in SA.

I believe the provider was Lulu.

Exactly what you wold expect.

I Started with BBFIV to test the waters. She wore a short dress with everything accessible.

She responded with BBT (Broke back tease) then the flip.

More teasing with some BBHJ and BBDFK with tits hanging out and some dirty talk. She was like the Asian version of the mom from the golden girls, it was sexy.

It seems like all was available.

Got the full service tune up for $.

Not sure if you were at the same place That I went to. This place was on Harbor and w 1st street.

There's a metro PCs next to it in a busy strip mall. Walked in there were like 5 grannies. And I asked for Lulu. Hoping for a good BJ and FS. None just a regular handy by another younger Lulu with kinda dark blonde hair, Chinese girl in her late 30's. B cups nothing special and nothing excited. Paid $40 for the house and $60 for tips and barely got to suck her titties. Waste of time.

[Porkys1980]

Are you going to do a review on First Class Massage?

I found it using Google maps.

BTW welcome to the forum and I'll be waiting for your first review.

FC and F& C are two different places.

Lucy is at Reflexology behind the Fish and chips lol.

[RedRoddddd]

Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible. So I don't know what exactly it is that they're doing. Maybe serving as a front to get people to buy MPs of not quite the same business model? If you know much about the AMP business, the unfortunate fact is the majority of it is a criminal enterprise with a kingpin located somewhere in Asia. The "owners" of the spas are just pawns, so when they get busted and thrown in jail the kingpin just recruits new owners and opens other shops elsewhere. I suspect this is what's going on here, except they've figured out a clever way to get the pawns to actually pay money to be pawns. Just a guess. That would make these shops huge loss leaders. They aren't making any money by running these two locations, but they more than make up for it with the other MPs they get people to open.

I went there 5 or 6 years back. 19 or 20 year old hottie with a plaid shirt tied around her DDs (what they called a uniform). Had a sexy 30 minute massage for two Andrew Jacksons. With 3 minutes left she said she can do a BBBJ for $. Nope, I'm not the Flash, so I declined. On the to do list, but now yeah $$ to get in the door, I'm not paying for her DDs. I walked in once last year to verify the door fee. Viet hottie in the adds and videos was there, probably shopping for shoes on her iPad. Yes, it is $$. That's like 3 hours at Bamboo, 2 trips to Lucy, 2 Disneyland tickets, FS anywhere else with a steak dinner afterwards. Probably $$$ laundering for some gang. I still would like to find out what's behind the red panties, I mean curtain. Anybody have an extra $$ for 'R&D purposes?

[Porkys1980]

Love these ones in Costa mesa.

Elegant Massage younger and hot ones working here. Make sure you call first they are always busy and fresh talent daily.

Magic spa / older ones but know what they do as a pro for sure.

Eden spa / cute older ones in their late 40's w big tots. Sure can ring a bell.

Worst AMP ones.

Total relax spa is more like total rip off. Gave a girl $60 for hand j and ended up with a twisted arm.

Tranquil Thai / the old Jojo has a nice figure but crappy attitude.

Thanks Jerryx. I went to Elegant Massage in CM. Apple was hot young one there! Thanks for the heads up.

[Porkys1980]

Think about it. This place has younger, hotter girls than pretty much any MP out there. If guys were really banging these girls for $200 there would be lines out the door and reviews all over this place. I don't know what exactly their game is. It definitely is not a "franchise. " I own a franchise so I know that game quite well. Just for kicks I contacted them and asked for their FDD (Franchise Disclosure Document). It is something that all franchise businesses are legally obligated to provide. It's a government regulated document that has to be in a certain format that discloses pretty much everything you would need to know about buying in to the business. They didn't even know what a FDD was. Look at their Yelp and Google reviews. They're almost all 5 stars with half of them written by women, and most with Vietnamese names. There's an occasional "John Smith" type name posting a review, but with your typical Asian grammatical error syntax. They're obviously using bots to post reviews and doing it so poorly it's humorous. No female Asian client would pay $200 for 30 minutes to get a legit massage from a hot young Asian girl. They have plenty of their own Asian spas that give full body massages for $30. I can tell you with certainty that there's nobody at this address with a California massage certificate, which means the girls almost 100% are not trained in massage. Their business model doesn't even work. They advertise that their VIP members can get massages from as many girls at a time that they want. So imagine a "VIP" books a massage and wants all 4 girls working. The spa basically has to dedicate all of its resources to one dude for an hour and not book any other clients for no extra fee? It doesn't work and would be logistically impossible. So I don't know what exactly it is that they're doing. Maybe serving as a front to get people to buy MPs of not quite the same business model? If you know much about the AMP business, the unfortunate fact is the majority of it is a criminal enterprise with a kingpin located somewhere in Asia. The "owners" of the spas are just pawns, so when they get busted and thrown in jail the kingpin just recruits new owners and opens other shops elsewhere..

Who cares LOL move on. [Deleted by Admin]

[Grimmy23]

How close is what they are doing at Palms to being "real" nuru? They advertise VIP with real nuru gel, but that doesn't guarantee it's good.

I haven't been to Palms, but the sister spa Havana charges extra for real nuru gel. That in itself isn't worth the cost as the service is very much the same. To get the full effect you need the air mattress setup. The only place I've ever had it was in Asia and it was quite messy, but tons of fun.