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  1. #20745
    Quote Originally Posted by Silk3434  [View Original Post]
    I will also add that AMP's girls generally don't see the same volume as escorts. An escort might fuck 5-10 guys a day depending upon a number of factors. But an AMP, there are actually lots of people out there that just go to these places for massages (including women). They might even leave their tighty whities on which to the lady means no touchy touchy! So while an AMP might see 5-10 guys a day, I would almost bet my paycheck she isn't fucking half of that, or maybe even none of them. So its also exciting to think you could be the first fuck of the day.
    Especially if the girls knows she has one or ywo tegulars who tip very well and they don't need to do more guys. One clue I use is whether they need pil or not. I like girls who do need to oil up. Thats tells me they arent doing a bunch of guys.

  2. #20744

    Won't Matter

    In today's market, providers are expecting 80 for a HJ. If you leave 5, 10, even 40, they will consider you a cheapskate. Leaving some money sends a confusing message. Leaving no money sends a clear signal that you are not happy. If you want them to respect you, you need to respect yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by BairenNanhai  [View Original Post]
    Lame service, yes, and I'm only out $5 or $10 but may have established some good will, or helped a girl learn a lesson for the future, or maybe MMS will replace her. Otherwise, I just don't return and spend my money elsewhere. It's all trial and error. I still have a couple old faves, but I am always curious about what else may be out there. It doesn't hurt anyone to be nice. You never know, your poor girl may just be having a bad day. I apply the same to servers in Restaurants, etc. Some of these ladies went through hell just to be where they are, working 12 hour days, 7 days a week, and dealing with a lot of assholes. I won't add to their misery. This is just my 2 cents. You do you.

    Bairen.

  3. #20743

    Lessons learned

    Quote Originally Posted by Start2  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, lame service pays.

    You said so yourself that if a provider gives you the lamest massage of your life you will still tip her $5.

    When it's time to negotiate, you negotiate. Tips are extra service. No extra service No tip.

    Walking out is acknowledgement that YOUR time is valuable.
    Lame service, yes, and I'm only out $5 or $10 but may have established some good will, or helped a girl learn a lesson for the future, or maybe MMS will replace her. Otherwise, I just don't return and spend my money elsewhere. It's all trial and error. I still have a couple old faves, but I am always curious about what else may be out there. It doesn't hurt anyone to be nice. You never know, your poor girl may just be having a bad day. I apply the same to servers in Restaurants, etc. Some of these ladies went through hell just to be where they are, working 12 hour days, 7 days a week, and dealing with a lot of assholes. I won't add to their misery. This is just my 2 cents. You do you.

    Bairen.

  4. #20742

    You got to know when to hold them. Know when to walk away.

    Quote Originally Posted by BairenNanhai  [View Original Post]
    I don't understand the walkout. I would negotiate down to what I want to pay, or just make them finish the time. If the massage is lame, I'd just give them a 5 since I'm a nice guy. 10 is standard for an hour. I can understand the frustration for sure, but I don't see what the rude walkout accomplishes. If everything is bad, you can still politely speak with mama. You never know how far a little goodwill will take you. I know people who get in good with MMS and get calls or texts when she gets new girls she thinks they will like, or sometimes she will give you a different girl to finish things up at no extra cost, or offer you a special on return. Never give up! LOL! I've done this in the past with good results. I point out what I see as positive as well as negative so maybe the next guy gets better service.

    Bairen.
    Unfortunately, lame service pays.

    You said so yourself that if a provider gives you the lamest massage of your life you will still tip her $5.

    When it's time to negotiate, you negotiate. Tips are extra service. No extra service No tip.

    Walking out is acknowledgement that YOUR time is valuable.

  5. #20741

    Walkout

    Quote Originally Posted by maobing  [View Original Post]
    Had the same experience! Was there last month, told only 30 min, horrible massage, and on the flip wanted big $ said no, got dressed and walked out never to return!
    I don't understand the walkout. I would negotiate down to what I want to pay, or just make them finish the time. If the massage is lame, I'd just give them a 5 since I'm a nice guy. 10 is standard for an hour. I can understand the frustration for sure, but I don't see what the rude walkout accomplishes. If everything is bad, you can still politely speak with mama. You never know how far a little goodwill will take you. I know people who get in good with MMS and get calls or texts when she gets new girls she thinks they will like, or sometimes she will give you a different girl to finish things up at no extra cost, or offer you a special on return. Never give up! LOL! I've done this in the past with good results. I point out what I see as positive as well as negative so maybe the next guy gets better service.

    Bairen.

  6. #20740
    Quote Originally Posted by Silk3434  [View Original Post]
    I will also add that AMP's girls generally don't see the same volume as escorts. An escort might fuck 5-10 guys a day depending upon a number of factors. But an AMP, there are actually lots of people out there that just go to these places for massages (including women). They might even leave their tighty whities on which to the lady means no touchy touchy! So while an AMP might see 5-10 guys a day, I would almost bet my paycheck she isn't fucking half of that, or maybe even none of them. So its also exciting to think you could be the first fuck of the day.
    I tend to think it completely depends on the individual parlor itself. If you go to a well known FS place, you better believe the ladies there are likely getting busy with every customer unless they find specific ones they don't like or trust. High priced, high quality escorts though may do less business in a day than a parlor. Again it likely depends on the lady herself, what she offers, and at what price.

  7. #20739

    Couldn't have said it better myself. But only more thing to add

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    It's really about what you want to get out of it. When you're going to an escort you have but one clear goal in mind: to fuck.
    .....
    Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.
    I will also add that AMP's girls generally don't see the same volume as escorts. An escort might fuck 5-10 guys a day depending upon a number of factors. But an AMP, there are actually lots of people out there that just go to these places for massages (including women). They might even leave their tighty whities on which to the lady means no touchy touchy! So while an AMP might see 5-10 guys a day, I would almost bet my paycheck she isn't fucking half of that, or maybe even none of them. So its also exciting to think you could be the first fuck of the day.

  8. #20738

    Economics 101

    Finding a Unicorn always sounds appealing but you need to think with your wallet. If I go to a AMP, my basic choice is 1. A good massage with HJ / DATY, 2. Rushed overpriced BJ / FS with an older provider. I can't get both. The recent increase in AMP extras has changed the economic balance to the escort. I can get a guaranteed price and level of beauty and performance. When you count all the misses, you are paying an extremely high price for the successes.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrowned  [View Original Post]
    It's really about what you want to get out of it. When you're going to an escort you have but one clear goal in mind: to fuck.

    But when you go to an AMP, that is never a guarantee. Often times you'll find yourself walking away empty handed, because after all what you are paying for is only a massage. What more you get out of it is entirely up to you. I prefer the mystery and allure of the AMP much more than an escort but I do partake in both, sometimes I get an itch that just needs to be scratched and prefer the sure fire strike of an escort.

    But the best analogy I can give is this. An escort is like dining in a restaurant. You know you're going to get a pretty good dish and you don't have to put in any work to cook it. Just pay the restaurant for the food you want to eat. An AMP on the other hand is like cooking your own food. You may find a recipe from a monger online, but what you do with it is entirely up to you; thus YMMV with the dish. In fact, you could fuck up the cook entirely or you can recreate a delicious meal and maybe add your own spin to it. Maybe, you can go out there and discover your own recipe and there's always something so deliciously sweet about that kind of success.

    The margin of error is much wider with an AMP than with an escort, but I find that the gains are much sweeter with success at AMPs but everyone has their own preferences at the end of the day..

  9. #20737

    Its been awhile since I have been out in Woodbrige. But.

    Quote Originally Posted by JayCramer80  [View Original Post]
    Pine spa gets some awesome reviews in Woodbridge. I need to make the trip there.
    Kinda impossible to get disappointed there between Nana I believe and Apple. You will just have to come out of pocket about $. 8 or $$.

  10. #20736
    Quote Originally Posted by DatDude1206  [View Original Post]
    Any recommendations in Woodbridge area?.
    Pine spa gets some awesome reviews in Woodbridge. I need to make the trip there.

  11. #20735

    The thrill of the hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamShaft  [View Original Post]
    I have been out of the game myself for a few years and thinking about jumping back in. However, I never experienced the massage parlor side of the house. Just a question I am putting out to all hobbyists, is the parlor a better way to go than escorts?. Thanks.
    It's really about what you want to get out of it. When you're going to an escort you have but one clear goal in mind: to fuck.

    But when you go to an AMP, that is never a guarantee. Often times you'll find yourself walking away empty handed, because after all what you are paying for is only a massage. What more you get out of it is entirely up to you. I prefer the mystery and allure of the AMP much more than an escort but I do partake in both, sometimes I get an itch that just needs to be scratched and prefer the sure fire strike of an escort.

    But the best analogy I can give is this. An escort is like dining in a restaurant. You know you're going to get a pretty good dish and you don't have to put in any work to cook it. Just pay the restaurant for the food you want to eat. An AMP on the other hand is like cooking your own food. You may find a recipe from a monger online, but what you do with it is entirely up to you; thus YMMV with the dish. In fact, you could fuck up the cook entirely or you can recreate a delicious meal and maybe add your own spin to it. Maybe, you can go out there and discover your own recipe and there's always something so deliciously sweet about that kind of success.

    The margin of error is much wider with an AMP than with an escort, but I find that the gains are much sweeter with success at AMPs but everyone has their own preferences at the end of the day.

    A monger earlier mentioned a place that hasn't been mentioned on the board and I saw the opportunity to tackle this mission and made an appointment with Jenny at body and soul, but success was not in the cards for me today. I got a good massage and she offers waxing but when I asked if she offered more and mentioned the idea of FS she just laughed me off and said she's never ever done that (a lie or maybe a different Jenny? Regardless there was definitely defensive resentment behind her statement). But everything was legit as far as the experience went. She healed my body but definitely not my soul. But that is the risk you take with AMPs. It's all about the thrill of the hunt.

    Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.

  12. #20734

    Depends

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamShaft  [View Original Post]
    I have been out of the game myself for a few years and thinking about jumping back in. However, I never experienced the massage parlor side of the house. Just a question I am putting out to all hobbyists, is the parlor a better way to go than escorts?. Thanks.
    If you're looking for Slam Blam Thank You Mama then escorts are a better way to go.

    Massage Parlor's are more about the thrill of the hunt, you're getting a excellent massage and then a menu.

    Or to put it another way Escorts are like driving to work, it a pretty vanilla experience.

    Massage Parlor's are like a roller coaster ups and downs, can't wait to do it again.

  13. #20733

    Quality check

    Evening, gents and fellow degenerates. Going to be in the NOVA region tomorrow and was thinking of swinging by Oriental Massage in Manassas. I've been there before, though it's been a hot minute. Having read through the forum, been able to pick up some info.

    Curious if any of you happen to have updated / recent knowledge of the locale?.

    Stay safe.

  14. #20732

    Looking for a good spot in Woodbridge

    Any recommendations in Woodbridge area?.

  15. #20731

    Which is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoCooKrispy  [View Original Post]
    I am fairly new to this forum after taking a 7 year hiatus due to career goals. I started very young.

    I would scour various forums in my youth for the thrill of it all. The chase. The unknown. The people! This hobby isn't for every one, but those that know how to play the game cherish all aspects of it.

    To those that are new to this, young and old, know that the best of the best are not displayed on a pubic forum for all to have a taste. They are held close to one's vest to reduce traffic and risk associates with a large influx of customers. I too, am one to not report or review on my ATFs. Take it or leave it, I think most of us do the same.

    Do know that, cash is king. Word spreads around about who you are and how generous, kind, and respectful you are to providers.

    Take chances. Treat everyone with respect. Stay safe.
    I have been out of the game myself for a few years and thinking about jumping back in. However, I never experienced the massage parlor side of the house. Just a question I am putting out to all hobbyists, is the parlor a better way to go than escorts?. Thanks.

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