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  1. #18254
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiGuy1711  [View Original Post]
    Thinking about taking the dive and visiting Kurumi Gray for my first experience.

    Has anyone on here seen her, and if so, would you recommend?

    https://www.kurumi-gray.com/
    I saw her 5 years ago when she was charging half her current rate and she was a cool chick. Great GFE. Her current rate is way too high for me but if it's in your budget, go for it.

  2. #18253

    Puerto Rican / Mexican Girl

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/74582405

    Anyone seen this one? Her ass looks incredible.

  3. #18252

    Kurumi Gray

    Thinking about taking the dive and visiting Kurumi Gray for my first experience.

    Has anyone on here seen her, and if so, would you recommend?

    https://www.kurumi-gray.com/

  4. #18251

    Don't ever pay a deposit

    Quote Originally Posted by BeechNut79  [View Original Post]
    I have been finding out that even many legitimate escorts are now asking for deposits. If they are on legit sites they can't be scammers I wouldn't think. This is a major turnoff for me. They claim they are doing it as a defense against no shows and cancellations. But have heard that many of at least lower level ones are playing the no show game as well.

    And am sure there are many hobbyists who are going to be leaving the scene because they just can't afford the prices charged by many if not most legitimate escorts these days. Many are up to 600 an hour now. Do you really think we have that much control over rates. Can we really force them to lower rates by starving the beast so to speak and just not deal with them? Also many if not most seem to act like we're working for them when in reality they're supposed to be working for us. Something that would get most of us fired in mainstream employment. So, what do you all think about this, and how to make the hobby affordable to those of us who don't have loads of playtime money floating around.
    The second you pay a deposit, you have transferred all the power in the transaction to them. Now they can dictate to you what happens next and all you can do is comply with their demands or lose your money. They can and will hold you hostage for all the usual bad behavior like ghosting, wasting your time for hours, and running errands for them on the way. Additionally it is just too tempting for them to take the money and run. What really can you do to get your deposit back? Call the cops? Leave a bad review? Yes we absolutely can force them to behave better and I am not talking about abusing anyone here. Just requiring them to hold up their end of a deal of a reasonable service for a reasonable price. But it requires ALL of us to think with our big head. Stop reinforcing bad behavior by paying pornstar prices and up front deposits to streetwalkers with laptops. I don't need to see any provider. It is a hobby for me. Most of the providers desperately need my money. All I ask is reasonable service, acceptable behavior (no ghosting, run arounds, or waiting for hours) for a mutually agreed upon price, payable in the room with no BS. Stop wimping out and paying ridiculous prices and deposits and they will alter their behavior or suffer from lack of funds. They NEED us way, way more than we need them.

  5. #18250

    This is why I stay away from gps chicks

    Quote Originally Posted by BeechNut79  [View Original Post]
    I have been finding out that even many legitimate escorts are now asking for deposits. If they are on legit sites they can't be scammers I wouldn't think. This is a major turnoff for me. They claim they are doing it as a defense against no shows and cancellations. But have heard that many of at least lower level ones are playing the no show game as well.

    And am sure there are many hobbyists who are going to be leaving the scene because they just can't afford the prices charged by many if not most legitimate escorts these days. Many are up to 600 an hour now. Do you really think we have that much control over rates. Can we really force them to lower rates by starving the beast so to speak and just not deal with them? Also many if not most seem to act like we're working for them when in reality they're supposed to be working for us. Something that would get most of us fired in mainstream employment. So, what do you all think about this, and how to make the hobby affordable to those of us who don't have loads of playtime money floating around.
    The higher end chicks they have gps and think we owe them the world. I stick to Listcrawler or stg. I find most of these chicks on the higher end sites charge insane stupid amounts. My budget is 300 or less and you'd be amazed at what you can find on LC. Hell I've gotten bbfscip for 100.

  6. #18249

    Deposits

    I have been finding out that even many legitimate escorts are now asking for deposits. If they are on legit sites they can't be scammers I wouldn't think. This is a major turnoff for me. They claim they are doing it as a defense against no shows and cancellations. But have heard that many of at least lower level ones are playing the no show game as well.

    And am sure there are many hobbyists who are going to be leaving the scene because they just can't afford the prices charged by many if not most legitimate escorts these days. Many are up to 600 an hour now. Do you really think we have that much control over rates. Can we really force them to lower rates by starving the beast so to speak and just not deal with them? Also many if not most seem to act like we're working for them when in reality they're supposed to be working for us. Something that would get most of us fired in mainstream employment. So, what do you all think about this, and how to make the hobby affordable to those of us who don't have loads of playtime money floating around.

  7. #18248

    Hopefully last update

    Getting a bunch of PMs, want to try to give more info on one more thing I forgot, so she is probably going to be hosting out of an apartment or shitty motel, she is safe and isn't trying to scam anyone, so I can vouch for that at least in my experience ofc. She also will do car or outcall too I'm pretty sure, communication could be spotty at times but that's how it goes with alot of these girls for the usual reasons. I also don't think she does a ton of dates so you may have to keep trying with her if these posts get her busy in the short term.

  8. #18247

    Also

    Want to add about Kasia, she bikes around the city a lot so she really does have a good ass / thighs along with those nice naturals, like I said if it weren't for some inexperience she really has a pretty good body for a relatively low price, pretty sure she will quote 100 hh with bbj and daty as a heads up of a rough price. She is propably like 5'4" 120 lbs more like 38 than 28 though.

  9. #18246

    Tranny

    Quote Originally Posted by RideMyFace  [View Original Post]
    I seen this one a couple times. She is legit, very nice girl with a fairly open menu and can be negotiated with. If you like her looks do not hesitate to try. Actually she just put up new pics that really look much better, so check them out, and pics are legit and she is def not a tranny LOL. She isn't the most experienced girl though but is willing to work to make you happy. If anyone is interested with more detailed questions feel free to PM me.
    I looked at "her" pics and my dick shriveled up died and I threw up my breakfast. "She" sure looks like a guy.

  10. #18245

    She cool

    Quote Originally Posted by IndigoWalk  [View Original Post]
    OK. I'm pretty open minded to almost anything, but is this a dude? I just can't tell and I'm strangely drawn to this ad every time I see it. I like them a bit rough on the edges. Just can can't pull the trigger on reaching out for some reason.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/74456023
    I seen this one a couple times. She is legit, very nice girl with a fairly open menu and can be negotiated with. If you like her looks do not hesitate to try. Actually she just put up new pics that really look much better, so check them out, and pics are legit and she is def not a tranny LOL. She isn't the most experienced girl though but is willing to work to make you happy. If anyone is interested with more detailed questions feel free to PM me.

  11. #18244
    Quote Originally Posted by JJames2011  [View Original Post]
    It took 3 attempts to finally connect.

    She was 1 1/2 late. However she did communicate thru out.

    Pictures are accurate. She is older.

    Tiny body.

    Was pleasant and upbeat.

    She smelled like weed which is a turn off for me.

    No rush. Skilled.

    JJ.
    She has been in the game for a while, can't remember her old name but she's lost a little weight she may have been on SA for a little bit too.

  12. #18243

    Did finally see her

    Quote Originally Posted by JJames2011  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...icago/74041592

    Have an appointment to see her tomorrow and can't find anything on her. She has told me she has reviews and been in the hobby a while. I asked where do you have reviews at and she changed the subject.

    Tried reverse image on all the pics. Nothing.

    Thanks in advance.

    JJ.
    It took 3 attempts to finally connect.

    She was 1 1/2 late. However she did communicate thru out.

    Pictures are accurate. She is older.

    Tiny body.

    Was pleasant and upbeat.

    She smelled like weed which is a turn off for me.

    No rush. Skilled.

    JJ.

  13. #18242
    Quote Originally Posted by MayoTeru  [View Original Post]
    There's someone on Tryst I'm considering booking. I've always been an AMP kinda guy, so the prices on Tryst are pretty eye-popping. Are people really paying 4, 5, 700 dollars+ for an hour with some of these ladies? And these aren't even the most attractive ones. I'm wondering if the deal is that they list high prices and then they get negotiated down? Otherwise I guess some of y'all have a lot more cash to burn on pussy. The person I'm interested in is asking $400 an hour, if I offered them say $200 would that be the height of rudeness or would I be a sucker not to?
    There used to be more really really attractive ladies down at the 400 range. Lots have raised their rates to 500 or 600 or much more in the past couple years. You can still maybe find a couple good ones at 400 but the variety and numbers have dwindled. And then those will eventually raise their rates. Such is the game.

    You probably shouldn't low ball or try for a lower price, unless you want to be blocked. I'd say most of these independents in the mid to high range immediately block for that, because it's just a waste of time for them and they don't budge on rates. You could go ahead and try if you want.

  14. #18241

    No bbj dafuq

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkmsw  [View Original Post]
    I see she is back. Anyone looking for her can just search Samantha in LC. The discription is accurate. I have seen her several times in the past but now I can't seem to get her to see me. When I do get a reply it's always not now or wait an hour or some such bs. When I actually do get a location she ghosts me the last 2 times I showed telling her I was there. I am very accurate on my arrival time so I'm not surprising her there but she just won't answer me. I have seen her plenty of times in the past so she "knows" me and knows I pay and I am in and out so she can go on with her life. I don't think I have ever made her mad but I do know she has a problem. I know because I have witness her smoking (not cigs) right in front of me before the deed. It really turned me off and I didn't go back for awhile but her pictures are (or were, haven't seen her in about 12 months) spot on and she was very good in the sack. If anyone sees her let us know how it went and if she still looks good as the pics.

    B.
    No BBBJ. Don't give these broads money lmaooooo.

  15. #18240

    Overrated tbh

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikka22  [View Original Post]
    Yea haven't seen her in a while. Let us know how it goes.
    I got bbj and she let me record for 120. Wouldn't let me cim nor on face since she had someone waiting right after me. I ended up jerking off and she helped me jerk off at the end. She didn't get super sloppy. I might give her another try.

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