"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Zerry]

It's just some good advice. Talking about PPM is the number 1 reason SD get ban from SA. All you need is 1 SB to flag your account for talking about PPM, and you will be ban. If you want to keep rolling the dice that's your choice.

Getting flagged is the key, its not hard to avoid.

[Ron Pamet]

I was very excited about joining SA after browsing profiles for a week. (I recently posted about having issues with paying for Premium. I ended up paying through the app, which does not accept discount codes. I was pretty disappointed by the support dept and their so-called billing dept, aka answering machine. I get much better support for services I pay less for.).

I've been Premium for about 10 days, and I've had a mixed experience. I expected the prospect of financial help to really motivate these young ladies. Instead, I am puzzled by the apathy & disinterest I am experiencing. The majority of my messages haven't been read. Most members don't check their messages regularly, are inactive, or take breaks for months at a time.

The responses I do get are mostly non-starters, ie they don't progress the conversation. It's just a quick "ok" or a 2-3 word answer to an open-ended question. You'd think they'd put some effort into it. Others have been worse. They simply ignore my message & try to direct me to Snapchat or phone numbers. The positive exchanges have been rare, but they do exist and I do believe I will meet women soon. I am just puzzled by the general indifference.

[RegularVaGuy]

Likely MAC address of your router or other device. But now your laptop is flagged.

Things they link for future ban.

Profile photo.

Credit Card.

Email Address.

MAC address of devices.

IP Address of internet connection.

I think I got back in by logging in from home PC in private mode, Vanilla card and new email address from a different domain / provider and used no photo.

Try one of those VPN. You can't be tracked through those.

[Shampoo55]

I just tried to renew using a reloadable Vanilla Visa I've used multiple times before. As recently as last September. It did not work. I then tried Re entering the card info as a new card. Still no luck. I'm probably going to give up. I have a nice stable to keep me entertained for a while.

Why don't you use the reloadable Vanilla card to buy a OneVanilla card as that seems to be the one that works consistently?

[Ernest Ll]

I got banned for mention PPM. I can register new account with new email address but immediately got banned if I try to upgrade. Tried with gift card, laptop instead phone. All failed. I'm suspecting they know my WIFI info somehow.

Likely MAC address of your router or other device. But now your laptop is flagged.

Things they link for future ban.

Profile photo.

Credit Card.

Email Address.

MAC address of devices.

IP Address of internet connection.

I think I got back in by logging in from home PC in private mode, Vanilla card and new email address from a different domain / provider and used no photo.

[JkNova9]

Curious if anyone has and is open to trading nude pics and vids of girls they've met though this (or otherwise). I've got over 50 girls from the DC area and Virginia schools. Inbox me if interested! Figure I might as well share these rather than sitting on them!

[SquirtLover]

It's just some good advice. Talking about PPM is the number 1 reason SD get ban from SA. All you need is 1 SB to flag your account for talking about PPM, and you will be ban. If you want to keep rolling the dice that's your choice.

I got banned for mention PPM. I can register new account with new email address but immediately got banned if I try to upgrade. Tried with gift card, laptop instead phone. All failed. I'm suspecting they know my WIFI info somehow.

[Member #6951]

I'm having a hell of a time getting a Premiere membership on SA. I tried my regular debit card. Immediately got suspended. I emailed support & they quickly lifted the suspension and told me I had to call in to run it over the phone. They said billing was open weekdays 9 am - 4 pm Pacific time. They also said I could try another card. I tried a second card, and same result: immediate suspension.

I tried calling billing several times on Monday (a Federal holiday, BTW) and got an answering machine saying their hours were 10 - 4. I tried again today and got another answering machine. Fuck me. I left a message, and also emailed support again to see what they can do. Meanwhile I have 14 messages I can't even read.

Anyone else have issues like this? I'm really not impressed.

I just tried to renew using a reloadable Vanilla Visa I've used multiple times before. As recently as last September. It did not work. I then tried Re entering the card info as a new card. Still no luck. I'm probably going to give up. I have a nice stable to keep me entertained for a while.

[Member #7176]

It's just some good advice. Talking about PPM is the number 1 reason SD get ban from SA. All you need is 1 SB to flag your account for talking about PPM, and you will be ban. If you want to keep rolling the dice that's your choice.

I am the idiot. I do do it and haven't had an issue with it for over a year.

[Shampoo55]

I am the idiot. I do do it and haven't had an issue with it for over a year.

What is your screen name on SA?

[BobLobLa]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...5-942c74d0928e

Texted variations of her profile pic then asked if I wanted to watch her use her new vibrator.

[Zerry]

I'm pretty sure they will flag PPM or the full words if they appear in a message. Might not get you the first time.

But again, what idiots are having discussions of financial terms in app? You either get banned for solicitation because you actually did, or some whack job took offense to your lowball offer or how you replied to her GPS ask. Again, you only get in TOS trouble when you have financial discussions in app.

If you don't have the finesse to get them onto text or some offline convo, then you probably should stick with pros.

I am the idiot. I do do it and haven't had an issue with it for over a year.

[Zerry]

As a long time observer of SA, there have Been SUBSTANTIAL changes in the site and the way it operates as a result of the passage of FOSTA / SESTA. Making the site appear innocuous or making it defensible from promoting prostitution charges is likely TOP priority for SA. When BP was shut down it was generating $100 MM in annual revenues. Brandon Wade is certainly spending a large chunk of change to defend his cashcow and thinking otherwise isn't a match for the realities observed and the steps any prudent business person would take.

I talk PPM and $$ in messages and my account has been up for over a year. I AM selective about who I do it with, but don't take my word for, it's not hard to see that the women who are bringing it up first are not getting banned either.

Maintaining plausible deniability is probably a big part of Wades defense strategy, which is much easier to do if SA isn't actively monitoring messages. If you've ever reported an account you'll notice it asks for screen shots. Something they wouldn't need if they were already to the messages. There is also a difference in spending on IT and spending on legal services.

You do you though. Some hooker.

[VAvet]

https://members.seeking.com/member/4...d-2bdcee3bc0a2 anyone had the opportunity.

Yes. Hosts out of an apartment near VCU that is perfectly safe. Nice girl, much thicker than her pictures when I saw her so likely will not repeat. If I recall damage was reasonable and she is fun, just not my type.

[BobLobLa]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...2-91086ebb9a28 -- verified IRL. Has a friend who brags about how great her SD is, so she signed up. NOT one to head to the hotel after M&G, but seems worth the effort.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...7-5aad1a2d498e - looks just as good behind the phone, but definitely a slow roll to get a M&G.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...b-eecf2c7920c6 - minimal engagement but was DTF early on in the convo. No discussion of Bill of Fare yet.