"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Phaedrus2004]

I think what your missing is 80% to 90% of Babies on SA are either scammers (including Dudes posing as for Babies, often from overseas, that's why you often get messages at odd times), pic / video sellers, send me $ because I'm gorgeous coeds, platonic princesses, or professional M&G lunch ******. So why not cast a wider net if your never planning to give up the goods.

If only SA charged the smallest amount, even a dollar a month even for women to make a posting, these imposters will either disappear altogether or greatly reduce. Challenge is that SA may appear dried up completely in certain cities or categories. So it doesn't work to SA's benefit to weed them out.

[DoggieFan]

I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.

Wow!

I think what your missing is 80% to 90% of Babies on SA are either scammers (including Dudes posing as for Babies, often from overseas, that's why you often get messages at odd times), pic / video sellers, send me $ because I'm gorgeous coeds, platonic princesses, or professional M&G lunch ******. So why not cast a wider net if your never planning to give up the goods.

I'd say if the at least maybe 30 Babies that I have scored with over the last three years, I'd say maybe 3-5 were truly bi.

That pales in comparison to going to a strip joint, I'd say their at least 50%.

Still looking for the right two Babies to do a threesome with. I've done several & still think the missing ingredient was that all were with straight girls. I won't pay for another unless it's two bi girls.

[EasyBake]

I'm definitely not going to give them a picture of my driver's license or passport. I tried to start a new account and I made my Tagline, "I don't buy pics or vids. " They must have some kind of software that detects buzz words because I immediately got a warning saying that I violated their solicitation rule. It picked up half of the sentence and thought I was selling pics and vids and I was shut down again. Damn.

[RogerOver]

I'm having a hell of a time getting a Premiere membership on SA. I tried my regular debit card. Immediately got suspended. I emailed support & they quickly lifted the suspension and told me I had to call in to run it over the phone. They said billing was open weekdays 9 am - 4 pm Pacific time. They also said I could try another card. I tried a second card, and same result: immediate suspension.

I tried calling billing several times on Monday (a Federal holiday, BTW) and got an answering machine saying their hours were 10 - 4. I tried again today and got another answering machine. Fuck me. I left a message, and also emailed support again to see what they can do. Meanwhile I have 14 messages I can't even read.

Anyone else have issues like this? I'm really not impressed.

I can't believe you tied a debit card with direct access to a bank account to what's basically a "hookers that don't think they're hookers" website. Using a debit card for anything online is a terrible idea, especially this.

[Ron Pamet]

I'm having a hell of a time getting a Premiere membership on SA. I tried my regular debit card. Immediately got suspended. I emailed support & they quickly lifted the suspension and told me I had to call in to run it over the phone. They said billing was open weekdays 9 am - 4 pm Pacific time. They also said I could try another card. I tried a second card, and same result: immediate suspension.

I tried calling billing several times on Monday (a Federal holiday, BTW) and got an answering machine saying their hours were 10 - 4. I tried again today and got another answering machine. Fuck me. I left a message, and also emailed support again to see what they can do. Meanwhile I have 14 messages I can't even read.

Anyone else have issues like this? I'm really not impressed.

[Ernest Ll]

If I put up a new profile and try to contact them again, they're going to think something's fishy.

Yes, they wouldn't budge. If I sent in my ID -- which I'd never do -- they would ban me for using the fake photo in the first place.

Best thing to do is clear your cookies, use another browser type, get a new email address and get a prepaid card and make sure you know how to use it and start with a new profile and new everything. Including profile photo. Otherwise, anything that matches a banned account will get you banned.

[RegularJoe1985]

I got this once when I used. Fake pic, but then showed the SB a real photo of me in app. When she blocked me, she reported me, so SA asked me to prove I was the person in my profile pic by providing govt I'd.

So you need government I'd to bang women.

So, did you? Provide ID I mean or just let it go and create another profile?

[EasyBake]

Was your account a paid account -- or one just sitting there in between use?

It was a paid account. I just got back on there after a 3 mo break and had 3 girls planning to meet. They probably think I was scamming them now. If I put up a new profile and try to contact them again, they're going to think something's fishy.

[Member #6575]

I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.

Was your account a paid account -- or one just sitting there in between use?

[Ernest Ll]

I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.

I got this once when I used. Fake pic, but then showed the SB a real photo of me in app. When she blocked me, she reported me, so SA asked me to prove I was the person in my profile pic by providing govt I'd.

So you need government I'd to bang women.

[FarFarAway]

I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.

Whoa, this is tough. IDK any way to get around this easily. This is why I advise to NEVER do anything that is going to get the pin-heads at SA to look at your profile. They are very capricious in what they think is and isn't correct. What has flown for literally years may suddenly attract their attention. If you get banned, there is really nothing that you can do to get back on, other than start from scratch w / a completely new sugar identity. That can involve either a new device or spoofing software to change your MAC address, new emails, different photos, everything. A super pain.

BTW, I have typically had two profiles on SA, one active and one dormant, to permit me to check up to see if I might have been blocked by a girl, for example. Anyway, at one point I got a similar request for verification of my identity from SA. Allegedly because I needed to verify my identity, that perhaps my photos were fake. There's simply no way I am going to give them my correct information, so I have had to just abandon that profile.

This is why I never report anyone on the site, no matter how deserving their behaviour might be. I never change my profile. Not photos. Not a word of text. Not the tag line or user name. Any of these things can get the mods there looking at your profile. They do that, and they decide you need to up the disclosure to their standards, you'll be in the same boat. I've thought that well-seasoned profiles would be immune to this sort of thing, I guess I would say that is not completely so. Having a good track record of being on the site and not causing any problem is likely helpful, but it cannot save you from these sorts of requests.

[EasyBake]

I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.

[Bran001]

It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.

I could not disagree more. I've been VERY successful finding young (20-25) women with "men / women" in their profile to meet me and my 31 yr old bi fwb. These girls truly are bi and have experience with both men and women and love it all. Several of them have slept with my SB without me being there, too. Obviously no allowance for that; they are doing it for the sex.

[FarFarAway]

Finally this one worked Vanilla did not work.

We would all appreciate step-by-step specifics. There is intel afoot that the old reliable OneVanilla prepaid debit has stopped working.

[Ernest Ll]

A significant number of women (in the world, not just the bowl) have had zero experience of being treated nicely by men. You can really tap into their need for this with almost no effort or cost.

Tapping into the shortcomings of men under 35 and their inability to treat a woman decently / have a real relationship has been pure gold. They don't know how to have a converation. They would rather look at their screens than into her eyes or even sneak a peek down her blouse. They are scared to act like men -- lets face it, seeking attracts subs -- for fear of being labeled a misogynist, and women are seen as betrayers of their gender if they rely on a man to make ends meet or ask him to toss her around.

It never hurts to be kind to people. The sex w / this gal was smoking hot good, too, so I am all for it.

Another way to stand out by negative comparison. I'm staggered at the number of complete idiots who can't form complete sentence when messaging an SB, start off by asking for pics, dive straight into their kinks, treat them like streetwalkers out of the gate and have no ability -- or interest. In shooting these fish in a barrel with their fins spread wide.