Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[CBus1234]

Been reading some thought it was time to post. Stopped at RL and had session with LeaLea. All can say is it was pretty worthless. 6+6, massage was basically none existent, HJ was pitiful, never reached the he (I'm over 60 so that happens). Did the top off, while the pups are nice, they aren't great. Two other ladies there, one tall nice build. The other was sitting but I"d say about LeaLea's height, no face covering, she was cute, looked like maybe better build and younger then LeaLea. Would I try her again. Maybe, maybe she was having an off day.

Something doesn't smell right here.

[DJBust44]

I'm going to post something here about someone not in the lifestyle, only to tell why'all the difference. These girls are living a life, only trying to make it to the next day or fix, doesn't matter how long you've known them just what situation they're in. They will do anything to make it to the next day or fix. Even to the ones that are closest to them. Whether it be family, or friends, or John. For those who choose to try and help, just realize that. You're last on that list more than likely. I lost someone close to me who was headed down the wrong road, and lied to everyone she knew, hadn't hit the streets yet, but honestly would probably be there, if she was still alive. Why'all stay safe out there, and use your big brain😉.

Great Post!!

I would like to think that most people have someone in their family with an addiction or at least knowns a friend that has one. If you have seen this up close an addict will lie, steal, and cheat their mother, grandma, father, brother, sister to get money for their habit. If they are willing to do this to their closest loved ones what makes you think you will be any different?

Most who have done this long enough have been burnt at least once over a girl they have feelings for or liked. Where do you think all these unwritten rules come from? Just know if you front or provide anything to any of these ladies there is a high risk of you never recovering what you provided or receive any services. At the minimum if you do happen to get your delayed services be prepared to get a million reasons and excuses for why they need another advance. A addict will be an addict and eventually you will get burned!

Don't try and make sense of the senseless. Again, the majority of these women are on heavy drugs. Why else would they do what they do? They do not care about you, they just care about what you can do for them. Ask yourself this could you contact any of these women and ask them for services and then offer to pay them next week after you get paid? Do any of these women call or text you just to see how you are doing? Offer you a free session just because you are a long time regular? Offer to spend the day with you just because they like you? Let's be real this is a monetary transaction and let's keep it that way gentlemen. Stay Safe!

DJ.

[JayFoto27]

I'm going to post something here about someone not in the lifestyle, only to tell why'all the difference. These girls are living a life, only trying to make it to the next day or fix, doesn't matter how long you've known them just what situation they're in. They will do anything to make it to the next day or fix. Even to the ones that are closest to them. Whether it be family, or friends, or John. For those who choose to try and help, just realize that. You're last on that list more than likely. I lost someone close to me who was headed down the wrong road, and lied to everyone she knew, hadn't hit the streets yet, but honestly would probably be there, if she was still alive. Why'all stay safe out there, and use your big brain😉.

[JonHangcok]

Well maybe this will alleviate / absolve your guilt.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/08/pope-s...-that-serious/

This society puts "men of God" on such a overrated pedestal. This is common sense. Figured this out when I was a kid, and that was when I went to church on the regular. Sheesh.

[TitMan717]

I have been talking with the wife and doing a lot of reflection and it seems that I might be able to get it more regularly from her if I could change things up. It does get pretty boring doing the same pussy for the last 20 years.

It all started after her mentor told her about this series on Netflix about something they call an erotic blueprint. After watching this, I start reading more about where I am in this blueprint and of course where my wife is. It seems that this could be a way to bridge the gap between types. My biggest concern is that I don't really know the how, I can imagine how and have the scenarios stored in the old spank bank but when it comes to commanding the partner, I fall short. This is where I believe some actual in person training would be useful. Have any of you guys have any of you guys done this or know of a mistress that can train and facilitate something like this? PMs from other seniors are very welcome.

[LDontFkinCare2]

Then there's the guilt to deal with. Not because I'm letting the wife down but because I feel like I'd be letting myself down.

Well maybe this will alleviate / absolve your guilt.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/08/pope-s...-that-serious/

[TitMan717]

See. You're making my point. For all the porn and strippers and social media where you see all these women just begging for dick. They are not easy to find. And when you're past your prime though still not bad looking, it's even more difficult. As for the wife. We had a huge discussion about it last year and I thought we had some sort of understanding. But it went downhill just the way it does after marriage. She was willing for a time and then nothing and then bitching if I bring up the topic. It may come down to finding the right pro. But the pickings there are slim and getting slimmer. Then there's the guilt to deal with. Not because I'm letting the wife down but because I feel like I'd be letting myself down.

It shouldn't have to be this fucking difficult. Somebody mentioned Toronto where it's all decriminalized. It's very tempting. I used to be a member on a board for adult entertainment up there. They have it so fucking good. The women are beautiful and would command $1 k an hour here or more. But they're only paying like $$50 to $$$ for absolute stunners and good service because they have competition. Check out the ads for the massage parlors or escorts up there and then look at the ads for Cbus and weep. Maybe I need to become Canadian.

Thanks all for the replies. I was just blowing off steam but I felt the love. .

Sounds like a reason to take a drive.

[TitMan717]

The human penis is shaped like it is so your hand doesn't slip off the end. It's science.

LMAO!!

Can't argue with that LOL.

[Boo7761]

Looking at it from an anthropological standpoint, we are not supposed to mate for life with the same partner. We force this upon or selves. This is why marriage is so much work. We are social in nature and everything down to the shape and size or our dicks support this. We are hardwired to be concerned with the size of our dicks because the longer we are, the deeper we can penetrate. The depth of penetration is important for digging out semen left behind from someone like Ray to increase the chance of your sperm reaching the egg first. This is the reason for the shape.

So with that, we are primal when it comes to sex, women are taught at an early age when their brain is in a much earlier state of development that sex is sacred. We know that this is absolute bullshit and it has been perpetuated through religious since the creation of modern religion.

The human penis is shaped like it is so your hand doesn't slip off the end. It's science.

[Prim0]

They're out there albeit not easy to find.

See. You're making my point. For all the porn and strippers and social media where you see all these women just begging for dick. They are not easy to find. And when you're past your prime though still not bad looking, it's even more difficult. As for the wife. We had a huge discussion about it last year and I thought we had some sort of understanding. But it went downhill just the way it does after marriage. She was willing for a time and then nothing and then bitching if I bring up the topic. It may come down to finding the right pro. But the pickings there are slim and getting slimmer. Then there's the guilt to deal with. Not because I'm letting the wife down but because I feel like I'd be letting myself down.

It shouldn't have to be this fucking difficult. Somebody mentioned Toronto where it's all decriminalized. It's very tempting. I used to be a member on a board for adult entertainment up there. They have it so fucking good. The women are beautiful and would command $1 k an hour here or more. But they're only paying like $$50 to $$$ for absolute stunners and good service because they have competition. Check out the ads for the massage parlors or escorts up there and then look at the ads for Cbus and weep. Maybe I need to become Canadian.

Thanks all for the replies. I was just blowing off steam but I felt the love. .

[Chunks92]

You hit on many points that I have been contemplating for some time. I agree with Jon in that this doesn't describe all women but it is definitely the vast majority of them. They are raised to fear sex and hold out for love. The ones who are promiscuous are labeled in society as sluts and ******. It has always carried a negative connotation. Luckily, there is a shift in society that is creating more acceptance for these types of women. Unfortunately for those of us that are past our prime still have to pay (unless you look like George Clooney).

Looking at it from an anthropological standpoint, we are not supposed to mate for life with the same partner. We force this upon or selves. This is why marriage is so much work. We are social in nature and everything down to the shape and size or our dicks support this. We are hardwired to be concerned with the size of our dicks because the longer we are, the deeper we can penetrate. The depth of penetration is important for digging out semen left behind from someone like Ray to increase the chance of your sperm reaching the egg first. This is the reason for the shape.

So with that, we are primal when it comes to sex, women are taught at an early age when their brain is in a much earlier state of development that sex is sacred. We know that this is absolute bullshit and it has been perpetuated through religious since the creation of modern religion.

My recommendation is to find a good SB and keep her or find a solid P2 P provider that you like. This way, you are setting yourself up for a strictly no strings relationship. There are some gems out there, you just have to sort through the shit to find them. Read Rays list and cross all of them off the list for a start.

Dudes in general will end up paying for it one way or another , even the boyfriends that these sugar ladies and hoes are with, whether it be through money, time or mental health. I'm 30 this April, fat, and going bald and I get more pussy "free" and through the hobby then I did when I was 20 and attractive. I actually wonder what women see in me when they approach me at the bar but I don't really question it, but its interesting, its not like I look like I have money or financial stability. I met this lady in her early 30's last November at the bar. We went on a few dates on the second it turned into a situation where she gave me some sob story about her finances and i jumped on the opportunity, I gave her 500 to fuck and then she went back to dating her thugs despite the fact I got her off multiple times. Saw her with a new dude the next week at the bar, and she looked worried that i was going to say something but she introduced me as a friend and i just shook his hand said how are you doing and I didn't say anything about anything me and her did. which afterward she came up to me when he was in the bathroom and thanked me for that, i gained her respect and she's become a good associate, but I would never date or fuck her again though she's tried. Whether repressed or skanky, most of these women have thug boyfriends, fantasize about thugs, or date thugs on the side while taking their creampie home to a good man. Society has devalued good men, why should we contribute to this failing system that the government has created by getting married? She can just divorce you and the government will give her 700 in food stamps and reduce her rent to 140 a month while she gets pounded out by thugs while you're paying alimony on top of taxes.

Unless you find that perfect woman don't sell yourselves short gents, drop your couple hundred bucks, skip all that bullshit, and move on to the next ho. Just my input.

[TitMan717]

I'm so frustrated about sex and the relationships between men and women. Why the fuck does it have to be so difficult?! Is it that women just hate sex? Men seem to be fine with having purely physical sex with no ties of emotion or anything else. We'll gladly fuck even women we don't find the most attractive. On the other side. Women have to be in love. And even then, after years with someone they claim to love and who is their life, they stop having any interest in sex. Look at all the dead bedrooms out there. So we look for it somewhere else. You'd think that some women must enjoy sex when you see them posting sexual pics and videos all over social media, etc. Where the fuck are they then? Where are the one's who are really interested in sex and want some guy to be with? Well, they either seem to need cash, drugs, vacations and sugar to do that. Is it that fucking bad to have sex with us that women who do sell their bodies have to get high to forget about it the first chance they get. I understand that when someone like Humpty / Ray is involved but what about us normal to even decent guys? Where's that hot little young lady posting herself naked in every position, talking dirty and fucking a dildo that is so desperate for sex? I'm okay if the wife's hormones have changed and she's not into it any more. But why can't I go find relief without feeling like a giant piece of shit about it? Why do I need to worry that some chick that's willing to suck me off and make me happy is so disgusted that she's going to go OD on some tainted shit because she want's to forget the big smile she put on my face?! I so fucking frustrated! And the fucking wife. I give hints. I try to make little jokes to just nudge her and let her know I could use SOMETHING involving pleasure to my cock at least a few times a year. And I'm the bad guy! Can you really consider it pressuring to hint that you could use a fuck, blowjob or even a handjob a few times a year? I don't need to fuck every day like when we met. Just let off some steam from time to time. Why aren't you the bad one for being to selfish to lend a hand. Or a mouth. Or just pretend to enjoy my cock in you for a few minutes. I'm not looking for marathon sex! And of course. If I do step out. I'm the bad guy and then there's divorce and a broken home for the kids and alimony and who gets the house. FUCK! It shouldn't be this fucking difficult! Gahhhhhh!

God I need a nice looooooong blowjob!. And from an attractive to me lady. Someone like the girls in the ads. Fuck the government and the Christians and the feminists and everyone else who stands in the way of people getting together to exchange whatever. It's none of their fucking business. Bad enough wondering / knowing that the pleasure she gives you is probably going to lead to her shooting up some heroine or whatever to make her forget you.

I just want to be mouth loved by some lady!

/ vent.


Great....I forgot the AMPs! Seems nice but there you have to worry the girl is being trafficked! Fuck!

You hit on many points that I have been contemplating for some time. I agree with Jon in that this doesn't describe all women but it is definitely the vast majority of them. They are raised to fear sex and hold out for love. The ones who are promiscuous are labeled in society as sluts and ******. It has always carried a negative connotation. Luckily, there is a shift in society that is creating more acceptance for these types of women. Unfortunately for those of us that are past our prime still have to pay (unless you look like George Clooney).

Looking at it from an anthropological standpoint, we are not supposed to mate for life with the same partner. We force this upon or selves. This is why marriage is so much work. We are social in nature and everything down to the shape and size or our dicks support this. We are hardwired to be concerned with the size of our dicks because the longer we are, the deeper we can penetrate. The depth of penetration is important for digging out semen left behind from someone like Ray to increase the chance of your sperm reaching the egg first. This is the reason for the shape.

So with that, we are primal when it comes to sex, women are taught at an early age when their brain is in a much earlier state of development that sex is sacred. We know that this is absolute bullshit and it has been perpetuated through religious since the creation of modern religion.

My recommendation is to find a good SB and keep her or find a solid P2 P provider that you like. This way, you are setting yourself up for a strictly no strings relationship. There are some gems out there, you just have to sort through the shit to find them. Read Rays list and cross all of them off the list for a start.

[JonHangcok]

I'm so frustrated about sex and the relationships between men and women. Why the fuck does it have to be so difficult?! Is it that women just hate sex? Men seem to be fine with having purely physical sex with no ties of emotion or anything else. We'll gladly fuck even women we don't find the most attractive. On the other side. Women have to be in love. And even then, after years with someone they claim to love and who is their life, they stop having any interest in sex. Look at all the dead bedrooms out there. So we look for it somewhere else. You'd think that some women must enjoy sex when you see them posting sexual pics and videos all over social media, etc. Where the fuck are they then? Where are the one's who are really interested in sex and want some guy to be with? Well, they either seem to need cash, drugs, vacations and sugar to do that. Is it that fucking bad to have sex with us that women who do sell their bodies have to get high to forget about it the first chance they get. I understand that when someone like Humpty / Ray is involved but what about us normal to even decent guys? Where's that hot little young lady posting herself naked in every position, talking dirty and fucking a dildo that is so desperate for sex? I'm okay if the wife's hormones have changed and she's not into it any more. But why can't I go find relief without feeling like a giant piece of shit about it? Why do I need to worry that some chick that's willing to suck me off and make me happy is so disgusted that she's going to go OD on some tainted shit because she want's to forget the big smile she put on my face?! I so fucking frustrated! And the fucking wife. I give hints. I try to make little jokes to just nudge her and let her know I could use SOMETHING involving pleasure to my cock at least a few times a year. And I'm the bad guy! Can you really consider it pressuring to hint that you could use a fuck, blowjob or even a handjob a few times a year? I don't need to fuck every day like when we met. Just let off some steam from time to time. Why aren't you the bad one for being to selfish to lend a hand. Or a mouth. Or just pretend to enjoy my cock in you for a few minutes. I'm not looking for marathon sex! And of course. If I do step out. I'm the bad guy and then there's divorce and a broken home for the kids and alimony and who gets the house. FUCK! It shouldn't be this fucking difficult! Gahhhhhh!.

Serious question; Have you had a serious sit down conversation with your wife expressing your concerns, and getting to the bottom of why her sexual drive seems to be diminished. I don't know how old your wife is, if she's going / gone through menopause and that's the reason for her decreased libido. I agree with Kwak2400, therapy could be an option for you, and / or your wife as well.

Plus I wouldn't throw all women under the broad idea that they have to be "in love" or have some mental connection to a guy for the sex to be an option. I've met my fair share of women who are well and good with having NSA fucking. They're out there albeit not easy to find. I came across one by happy accident by way of a female coworker who happened to be in a similar situation as yourself. In her case her husband wasn't a marathon man in bed, so she needed it to last longer and more often. I was happy to step in as her stunt cock, but I'll admit I turned her down in the beginning. FWB situations never seem to end well, and I wasn't interested in the inevitable fallout because I thought like you did, that women always need to have an emotional connection or be in love for the sex to be good and meaningful to them. I knew I could compartmentalize the relationship as just an exercise in sexual gratification. The only reason why I changed my mind is because we had a convo about the issues I had with being fuckbuddies, and she turned to me and said: "Its just a nut. It's just two people getting off. " I literally did a double take because I never thought I'd hear a statement like that come from a woman's mouth. So women who want purely physical sex are out there, finding them may be a different story altogether.

I can't think of a way for you to find a nutbuddy that would be easier than using Tinder / Bumble. You'll have to wade thorough all the BS bots, fake accounts, and providers masquerading as non providers in order for you to find what you're looking for. But I guess since you're married and want to keep it that way, that may not be an option for you since your profile would be public for all to see.

[SevenInche]

I'm so frustrated about sex and the relationships between men and women. Why the fuck does it have to be so difficult?! Is it that women just hate sex? Men seem to be fine with having purely physical sex with no ties of emotion or anything else. We'll gladly fuck even women we don't find the most attractive. On the other side. Women have to be in love. And even then, after years with someone they claim to love and who is their life, they stop having any interest in sex. Look at all the dead bedrooms out there. So we look for it somewhere else. You'd think that some women must enjoy sex when you see them posting sexual pics and videos all over social media, etc. Where the fuck are they then? Where are the one's who are really interested in sex and want some guy to be with? Well, they either seem to need cash, drugs, vacations and sugar to do that. Is it that fucking bad to have sex with us that women who do sell their bodies have to get high to forget about it the first chance they get. I understand that when someone like Humpty / Ray is involved but what about us normal to even decent guys? Where's that hot little young lady posting herself naked in every position, talking dirty and fucking a dildo that is so desperate for sex? I'm okay if the wife's hormones have changed and she's not into it any more. But why can't I go find relief without feeling like a giant piece of shit about it? Why do I need to worry that some chick that's willing to suck me off and make me happy is so disgusted that she's going to go OD on some tainted shit because she want's to forget the big smile she put on my face?! I so fucking frustrated! And the fucking wife. I give hints. I try to make little jokes to just nudge her and let her know I could use SOMETHING involving pleasure to my cock at least a few times a year. And I'm the bad guy! Can you really consider it pressuring to hint that you could use a fuck, blowjob or even a handjob a few times a year? I don't need to fuck every day like when we met. Just let off some steam from time to time. Why aren't you the bad one for being to selfish to lend a hand. Or a mouth. Or just pretend to enjoy my cock in you for a few minutes. I'm not looking for marathon sex! And of course. If I do step out. I'm the bad guy and then there's divorce and a broken home for the kids and alimony and who gets the house. FUCK! It shouldn't be this fucking difficult! Gahhhhhh!

Read The Rational Male, if you really want to understand what's going on with women. But only if you really want the ugly truth.

[RentHer]

When I first started going to AMPs I used to worry about trafficking. As time went on I've gotten to know some of them and they aren't forced into this. They go on vacations, shopping sprees, have families they support etc.