"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FarFarAway]

I semi-recently had an SB send me a lengthy message with her (absurdly high) PPM and M&G pricings, and shortly afterward the account went dark. I'm assuming that she got suspended, because a week or two later she had a new profile. So the risk of losing her by asking to go to text is offset by the higher risk that you get suspended for engaging in PPM discussions. And do it sooner than later since you risk her account getting suspended.

Risk losing her by asking to text?? If you can't get a girl to text you off the site, there's no point. If you want to M&G, in my experience, you have to have a phone conversation first, otherwise there's a very very high probability she doesn't show up. Even if I speak w / a girl by phone, my deal-breaker, there's a 50/50 chance she ghosts. But then, that is what you get when you are trying to bag real amateurs. The convo here about whether these girls are hooking is laughable. Most of the ones I target are clearly not in business, if they were, they'd never make a living at it because they are so skittish. If I do get one to the FC, I am sure they are low mileage. I was chatting w / a POT the last month, she told me her 'body count' was 5, and I believe her.

[Ernest Ll]

She's real. Met her as an undergrad at UVA, but got ghosted after M&G - https://members.seeking.com/member/f...4-f6a50617b766.

[Ernest Ll]

How timely! Just got a message from a super hot, older SB asking me what my PPM number is. I assume this is her modus operandi, as it was her second message to me, and she has been on the site since Jan 2020.

Based on the discussion here, I am hesitant to reply with a figure on the site.

She is real, because I found her personal social media page by sheer accident when scrolling through some photos and recognized her! I really want to have this woman (sooo my type) but don't want to lose her by asking to move off site, but don't want to get booted from seeking for discussing PPM.

Any advice appreciated.

Norm!

Pretty Princess in Mineral?

[Walruscl]

How timely! Just got a message from a super hot, older SB asking me what my PPM number is. I assume this is her modus operandi, as it was her second message to me, and she has been on the site since Jan 2020.

Based on the discussion here, I am hesitant to reply with a figure on the site.

She is real, because I found her personal social media page by sheer accident when scrolling through some photos and recognized her! I really want to have this woman (sooo my type) but don't want to lose her by asking to move off site, but don't want to get booted from seeking for discussing PPM.

Any advice appreciated.

Norm!

I semi-recently had an SB send me a lengthy message with her (absurdly high) PPM and M&G pricings, and shortly afterward the account went dark. I'm assuming that she got suspended, because a week or two later she had a new profile. So the risk of losing her by asking to go to text is offset by the higher risk that you get suspended for engaging in PPM discussions. And do it sooner than later since you risk her account getting suspended.

[Norm Gerd]

How timely! Just got a message from a super hot, older SB asking me what my PPM number is. I assume this is her modus operandi, as it was her second message to me, and she has been on the site since Jan 2020.

Based on the discussion here, I am hesitant to reply with a figure on the site.

She is real, because I found her personal social media page by sheer accident when scrolling through some photos and recognized her! I really want to have this woman (sooo my type) but don't want to lose her by asking to move off site, but don't want to get booted from seeking for discussing PPM.

Any advice appreciated.

Norm!

[Hal1957]

Sounds like typical Eastern European. I dated several vanilla and found them to be self absorbed and bipolar. Great lays but run like hell when you're done.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-f16dbe3c192a

She American Ukrainian, with no accent. I drop her mainly because I was bored, and she can be rude to serving staff at the restaurants, which is a big turn off for me. She also has zero patience. Best not to be late to dates, because she doesn't like waiting for anything. Her pics are accurate, and she doesn't drive or host. Sex was avg, but she does love to swallow.

[BobLobLa]

but why report them for PPM?

Because if they say the Phrase taht Pays, they are violating the TOS, and you should run far, run fast to avoid reported by them when they tell you their ask and you tell them they are crazy.

I'd think the number of SBs who would say "PPM" in a message on the App would agree to anythhing less than $4-500.

[Member #7176]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...d-f16dbe3c192a

She American Ukrainian, with no accent. I drop her mainly because I was bored, and she can be rude to serving staff at the restaurants, which is a big turn off for me. She also has zero patience. Best not to be late to dates, because she doesn't like waiting for anything. Her pics are accurate, and she doesn't drive or host. Sex was avg, but she does love to swallow.

[FarFarAway]

Agree with pic / video sellers & fake pics but why report them for PPM? I think the majority of Daddies are hoping for a gorgeous, 18-25 year old that is willing to trade her hot little body for some monetary help.

I'm not looking for a relationship on SA. It has turned into one a few times, but it all starts for me with a PPM. By turning them in your dwindling the pool of talent that most of us are on SA for. Instead, report the paid M&G Babies, the need gas money to come see you, the my phone is getting turned off, my baby needs diapers & formula scammers.

Just my opinion.

DF.

The issue isn't whether you end up in a ppm deal w / a girl. The point is, if you have a ppm convo on the site and the mods see it, they deem you involved in commercial sex and ban you. The girl and the guy. Say whatever you want, *after* you get them onto text or a messaging app.

[DickLongwood]

I am noticing a certain type of fake profile these days. A gorgeous 30's woman, happy to engage in convo on the site. I have even gotten some of them off the site to text or messaging apps (Telegram). They get into big discussions about cryptocurrency, how they're making millions, etc. However, sometimes they suddenly show up on the site with a totally different location, even in another country. I don't really think they are traveling, I'd wager they are using a VPN into the country they are alleging to be from. Whether that is outside the US or inside it is a question. This can be very deceptive and obviously a bit of a time-waster. IDK what the game is, I haven't had any of them try to get me to Venmo them $ or get me to buy pix.

Oh, yeah. Weird - they are often asking me if I have eaten a meal. Lunch, dinner. WTF?

I've had a couple message me and eventually bring up the crypto topic. I think it's a HUGE red flag.

[DoggieFan]

If they mention PPM I report them.

If they say they just want to sell pics / vids, I report them under COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

If they are using fake pics I report them.

Have to cover your ass. Not sure you earn any brownie points, but I'd rather draw first than have them report me because I called them out -- which you should never do. A woman scorned and all that.

Agree with pic / video sellers & fake pics but why report them for PPM? I think the majority of Daddies are hoping for a gorgeous, 18-25 year old that is willing to trade her hot little body for some monetary help.

I'm not looking for a relationship on SA. It has turned into one a few times, but it all starts for me with a PPM. By turning them in your dwindling the pool of talent that most of us are on SA for. Instead, report the paid M&G Babies, the need gas money to come see you, the my phone is getting turned off, my baby needs diapers & formula scammers.

Just my opinion.

DF.

[FarFarAway]

B"ut if you report -- which blocks them -- it prevents them from having access to your profile to return the favor.

Just repeating what I said earlier. If you report them, it will make the mods on SA look at *your* profile and *your* messages, and you never know how that turns out. You can just block her without reporting her.

And to the other post on here about girls looking for online-only 'arrangements' - that used to be grounds for a complaint in the report window. It no longer is, and I suspect that modification in policy was indeed done during the pandemic.

[BobLobLa]

Reporting is a waste of time, calling them out and arguing with her is plain stupid. Reporting just brings more attention to you.

B"ut if you report -- which blocks them -- it prevents them from having access to your profile to return the favor.

[Norm Gerd]

I actually got an email with a 33% code. But I cannot get it to work on the app, as there is no way to enter a promo code. It only shows up on the website, which won't let me used Google Pay, while the app will. I can buy Google pay anonymously with cash at many stores.

Anyone have a solution to get the discount while using Google pay?

Norm!

Just thought I would update everyone on the issue. I actually wrote to customer service. The first person to respond asked for more info, basically a screenshot of the discount offer.

I sent that, and after three days got a response that discount codes DO NOT work on the app. So I bought a prepaid CC instead. Google pay would have saved the CC purchase fee, but not really a big deal for the seven dollar fee.

Norm!

[John HandCock]

If they mention PPM I report them.

If they say they just want to sell pics / vids, I report them under COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

If they are using fake pics I report them.

Have to cover your ass. Not sure you earn any brownie points, but I'd rather draw first than have them report me because I called them out -- which you should never do. A woman scorned and all that.

Reporting is a waste of time, calling them out and arguing with her is plain stupid. Reporting just brings more attention to you.