Seeking Arrangement Girls

[Dsprdo]

From SA:

https://members.seeking.com/messages...1-b56ae990c2bf

Profile name is Shayshay, did a cash and dash on me. I know better, but let my guard down for an instant.

[WiseTraveler]

I have a business trip in January to chandler, az was wondering what sugar scene is like out there? I read the previous post about ppm.

Which is better for meetup hotel or airbnb? Are there short stay hotels or dayuse hotels?

I'll defer to local intel but I've traveled to the Phoenix / Chandler area several times and consider it one of the top metro areas in terms of SB availability / price / lack of GPS due to a mix of lower income areas and many universities plus a great diverse mix of looks / types.

LA, Vegas, Miami SBs want $500 just to meet IF they deign to reply at all. In AZ they seem more willing to meet and do PPM. You'll get flakes anywhere but if you clean up okay and avoid coming across as a pervy incel, it's a target rich environment. You might find someone attractive, willing, reasonable in terms of $, only to learn they're 50 min away, can't host and have different schedules, or get the dreaded "Can you send me $50 for gas / food?" Still, if you message a wide range of SBs and customize even a little, make it clear you're there for a week, you'll find some interested. Get their #/ offline chat info, check $ ranges, and you can build a good pipeline. It's a numbers / effort game but AZ has higher odds than most areas.

I'm heading to Phoenix in Feb and already found a cutie who just wants to be taken out for tacos / drinks and is staying <10 min from my Airbnb. I also have 3-4 backup options.

Re: Hotels and airbnb. Pick whatever place you normally would for travel. Hotels are more anonymous and convenient. Airbnbs can offer more space and make it feel less escort-why but read reviews and avoid places with 'the hosts dropped by often'the neighbors were so friendly' etc.

Protip: I sometimes message SBs about their profile with advice but not showing interest in meeting. Just things like 'I like your pics and you seem fun but your first paragraph sounds angry. It won't stop the time wasters but will put off potential matches. Best of luck. ' or 'You have great pics but I can't tell what you are looking for. Almost sounds like you want to just chat for money. Not judging but if you are open to more, remove the Platonic tag and change the wording. ' -- they usually appreciate the advice and attention and ask why I messaged if I'm in MN. I explain I'll be there soon so was starting to look at options so I have something to look forward to outside of work / visiting extended family. ' annnnnnd I'm in.

You can also check out cuddlecomfort.com and cuddlecompanions. Org. It really helps to have local intel so you might post on the AZ boards to see if anyone has recommendations. You can eliminate ones who mention boundaries / abide by terms of the site / strictly platonic. Look for 'open minded', 'skin to skin', 'help you relax' - it's no guarantee but if you like the hunt / variety / surprise, it can be fun. You still have to start slow and check comfort-levels at each stage but if you click, it can be awesome. More than half the time you can at least get a hand release. I've sometimes ended up banging all weekend. YMMV.

For Seeking and the cuddle sites, never discuss $ specifics or intimacy or you'll get banned. Only discuss those via offsite text / chat.

If you are with family/others and need a private place, try dayuse.com or the app. Can usually get a really nice hotel for 6+ hours during the morning or daytime for $80.

[BumbaCloth]

I have a business trip in January to chandler, az was wondering what sugar scene is like out there? I read the previous post about ppm.

Which is better for meetup hotel or airbnb? Are there short stay hotels or dayuse hotels?

[JChoi]

I've had decent luck with Secret Benefits, especially when traveling. Seeking SBs appear to have either found a forum, blog, or TikTok that's telling them to aim for $300 just to meet and then they'll discuss additional $ after that. Fuck that. Enough idiot SDs are paying that it's driving the GPS market up. For a true 9 or 10 (and yeah, it's subjective) I could see a daddy warbucks pay to meet but even 6-7's are demanding $ up front. On the SB site, PPM is the norm so they usually get shut down if they try to get $ up front. It's a numbers game. Chat up 20 potentials, get #s for 8-10, suggest $200-300 PPM for 4-5 of them with distance, hosting, length, activities being variables. If you want 2-3 rounds, expect to pay $400+. If you're a one and done like me most times, you can bargain for less. The tokens thing is a pain but I'll complain every once in a while that I just wasted 500 tokens with very little response and have been topped up for nothing. (Legit complaints and detailed how I customize messages, am always respectful, etc.).

From a pure time perspective, it's probably not worth it for financially independent SDs. Sure I can find 2-3 SBs who will agree to $200 but there's a higher chance of being flaked on / ghosted, or having drama / delays. Seeking has 10 x the pool and a higher average attractiveness for active SBs but it's like trying to pick up women on Miami Beach vs. Hollywood Beach in Florida. On Miami beach you better be dressed up and ready to spend. On Hollywood Beach, you better check for track marks and not carry too much cash or jewelry.

I like the hunt and have had my absolute best experiences at the $200 range. With one solid 8-8. 5 24 yr old in Phx GFE / all bare for 2 hours for $200. I've also had shit shows, like one in Mpls who I learned had her toddler in the next room with her mom, food / toys all over the floor, the heat cranked to 90. If I had more $, I'd probably stick to TER / P411 reviewed providers and find a solid rotation of SBs at the $400 range but I like a balance of frequency / variety and 'attractive enough'.

Well said. Yeah you tend to find some rare gems every now and then but I concur. $200 is a good starting point and you may hit a few dimes every now and then. But expect 300 to start. I'm over it LOL! Be safe.

[WiseTraveler]

I've had like 2 -3 solid meetups over the course of 2 years and they started with 500 then 400 then 300. First time I've ever paid 300 anywhere and it was both BBFS with cream pies and all that but it was not my jazzz as they kept messaging and asking for meets after that. Some even lowered their gps but I ended up getting a new burner anyway. Haven't been active as much and blocked them shortly after. Haven't had any success as of the last 4-5 months.

I've had decent luck with Secret Benefits, especially when traveling. Seeking SBs appear to have either found a forum, blog, or TikTok that's telling them to aim for $300 just to meet and then they'll discuss additional $ after that. Fuck that. Enough idiot SDs are paying that it's driving the GPS market up. For a true 9 or 10 (and yeah, it's subjective) I could see a daddy warbucks pay to meet but even 6-7's are demanding $ up front. On the SB site, PPM is the norm so they usually get shut down if they try to get $ up front. It's a numbers game. Chat up 20 potentials, get #s for 8-10, suggest $200-300 PPM for 4-5 of them with distance, hosting, length, activities being variables. If you want 2-3 rounds, expect to pay $400+. If you're a one and done like me most times, you can bargain for less. The tokens thing is a pain but I'll complain every once in a while that I just wasted 500 tokens with very little response and have been topped up for nothing. (Legit complaints and detailed how I customize messages, am always respectful, etc.).

From a pure time perspective, it's probably not worth it for financially independent SDs. Sure I can find 2-3 SBs who will agree to $200 but there's a higher chance of being flaked on / ghosted, or having drama / delays. Seeking has 10 x the pool and a higher average attractiveness for active SBs but it's like trying to pick up women on Miami Beach vs. Hollywood Beach in Florida. On Miami beach you better be dressed up and ready to spend. On Hollywood Beach, you better check for track marks and not carry too much cash or jewelry.

I like the hunt and have had my absolute best experiences at the $200 range. With one solid 8-8. 5 24 yr old in Phx GFE / all bare for 2 hours for $200. I've also had shit shows, like one in Mpls who I learned had her toddler in the next room with her mom, food / toys all over the floor, the heat cranked to 90. If I had more $, I'd probably stick to TER / P411 reviewed providers and find a solid rotation of SBs at the $400 range but I like a balance of frequency / variety and 'attractive enough'.

[JChoi]

Anyone have good experience with Secret Benefits? I've got a ton of messages and profile views but I've keep my picture blurred. I expected the opposite by keeping my picture hidden like that. And got no response from a couple of twenty somethings who messaged me first. Had one who did reply back who I contacted first but she was not much for engagement in conversation, and did not respond back when I tried to set up a meet up for last night.

I've had like 2 -3 solid meetups over the course of 2 years and they started with 500 then 400 then 300. First time I've ever paid 300 anywhere and it was both BBFS with cream pies and all that but it was not my jazzz as they kept messaging and asking for meets after that. Some even lowered their gps but I ended up getting a new burner anyway. Haven't been active as much and blocked them shortly after. Haven't had any success as of the last 4-5 months.

[DrPoon]

Anyone meet her? She wants $400. Tried to set up a meet up somewhere public on Friday to make sure pictures are real and current but got ghosted until this morning. She said she could host today, she was open to a ppm or an arrangement. Decided not to take the plunge at that price as experienced in the past the women being much heavier.

They need more money due to the cost of food increasing. It is no longer possible to get $1 cheeseburgers at Burger King. Plus the 1/2 pound bean and cheese burritos at Del Taco have significantly shrunk in portion size more like a 1/4 pound burrito for about 40 cents more thus requiring ordering three of said burritos instead of two.

[Crazie]

Anyone meet her? She wants $400. Tried to set up a meet up somewhere public on Friday to make sure pictures are real and current but got ghosted until this morning. She said she could host today, she was open to a ppm or an arrangement. Decided not to take the plunge at that price as experienced in the past the women being much heavier.

[Crazie]

All those sites are money credit eating machines. They have fake profiles message you and never respond back.

Anyone have good experience with Secret Benefits? I've got a ton of messages and profile views but I've keep my picture blurred. I expected the opposite by keeping my picture hidden like that. And got no response from a couple of twenty somethings who messaged me first. Had one who did reply back who I contacted first but she was not much for engagement in conversation, and did not respond back when I tried to set up a meet up for last night.

[Peacekeeper]

When compared with the general website rates of questionable quality and compare the quality of some SB, the value may be worth the higher cost. The value to me does not reach this price point.

I understand you get what you paid for but this seem to be getting abit ridiculous. Does anyone have any other sites that I can try?

[JChoi]

I just got back on the site. I've only been away for a few months. Why are the girls asking 5 to 750 per meet now a day and half are chunky. Is anyone else experiencing the same situation?

All those sites are money credit eating machines. They have fake profiles message you and never respond back.

[Vivid Dream]

I just got back on the site. I've only been away for a few months. Why are the girls asking 5 to 750 per meet now a day and half are chunky. Is anyone else experiencing the same situation?

When compared with the general website rates of questionable quality and compare the quality of some SB, the value may be worth the higher cost. The value to me does not reach this price point.

[Peacekeeper]

I just got back on the site. I've only been away for a few months. Why are the girls asking 5 to 750 per meet now a day and half are chunky. Is anyone else experiencing the same situation?

[Vivid Dream]

Hello fellas.

My account was banned due to inappropriate use of language during chat. I was later able to open and used a prepaid credit card but now it said I can't used prepaid card any longer. Is there anyone who can help me find a way to log back in? TIA.

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[Peacekeeper]

Hello fellas.

My account was banned due to inappropriate use of language during chat. I was later able to open and used a prepaid credit card but now it said I can't used prepaid card any longer. Is there anyone who can help me find a way to log back in? TIA.