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  1. #6495

    Prejudice versus cultural difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    I had a very interesting conversation today with an Asian massage provider

    1. 95% of her AA clients tip fairly ($50 to $60) and are friendly / polite. They are not aggressive with her.

    2. While the most generous of her clients are White, these are few and far between. She said White people make up the majority of her difficult customers. These are the ones who try to get everything they can for $40. And they are rude / aggressive about it as well.

    3. Indian / ME clients are red flags. They are not necessarily aggressive like the cheap White people but they are hagglers and many will walk out without tipping.

    4. She does not get a lot of Asian / Oriental customers. When I asked why that is, she said she thinks it's because they prefer FS places.
    I've had that conversation with providers also and in my experience you can flip your points 1 & 2. They love white middle-aged men. These are the guys that are likely to tip. 60 for a handjob. . 80 for the tits out or even FIV for more. In fact they consider. 40 tippers Cheapskates. They will still take. 40 no doubt but they're not doing anything extra. No touch, no tits out, and you better get off quickly.

    Unfortunately, the younger thugs have discovered this Hobby and have an angle. In fact there was a recent incident at another Spa. After a HE that girl went to get the hot towel (you know how they take their time and fuck around with that) the AA customer got up got dressed and left in a hurry. No tip. By the time she got back around the corner, the door chimes were already done ringing. To hear her talk she sounded like she was raped. BTW, that has also happened. You don't hear much about that because they won't call the police.

    Mamasan told me that he must do this often. He probably goes to a lot of different spas. They also had some other incidents with tipping. For that reason, the girls will hide in the kitchen and come out and tell them they are busy when they are not or only offer a massage with no HE implied.

    Mamasan will usually take them and vet them. And this is the reason why they make new customers tip first. No just AA. But that doesn't always work either, almost every one of these girls has been robbed, whether they take their tip money back or more. It depends on what town you're in I guess. Or even in a big city like Chicago what part of the city.

    As far as Asians, another cultural difference. They are very direct. I was at a spa and while I was waiting for the girl I came to see an fairly Young Asian man walked in and called the girl to the side. They went in the room for a second and came back out and he left. After I asked what that was all about she said he basically told her "no fuck or no service" either he was going to get laid or he was leaving. He left in a hurry. He was either embarrassed or on a mission or both. She told me they don't come in for a massage at all. They want to get their business done in 5 minutes or less! And yes, they want FS.

    Indians? Yep. Another cultural difference. It is their culture to bargain and it's very annoying. "You give me good deal and I send all my friends" how about you pay regular price and tell your friends you paid full price? It's very annoying. They're also very direct. I've overheard some phone conversations. Things you're not supposed to say over the phone.

  2. #6494

    Red Light is GFE required

    Went to their new place in Archer. It's better than that the last but not as good as the original. Felt more secure tho. At first, I was scared because I saw a pig mobile couple blocks away, but Papasan was behind the door as soon as I texted them to open. Unfortunately this security turn to awkwardness and even fear, because good ol Papasan over stepped his boundaries. As first he kept asking about a number in broken English-I didn't know if he asked about my phone number, age, or room to enter. I just kept nodding, till he send me to Cece. Very Young and short. I paid for the hour but Cece asked if I wanted GFE. I said no. She kept giving me the GFE price for the standard hour. I said I only wanted the standard. She called papasan. They argued for a second, as I waited. I finally disrobed and paid her. She called Papasan again, he enter the room while I was butt naked! He asked how much I paid. I answered, and he closed the door. Cece said GFE is better but I didn't feel like paying. As I penetrated, she kept killing the mood talking about GFE. I relented and then that's when the real fun started. To her credit, she went above and beyond. Kissing, massaging, licking and rimming. However I overspend my budget. My advice to you guys, If you are not going to spend for GFE or tip extra, then it's not worth your time. These girls will only put in the effort if you drop heavy cash. Cece, went above and beyond, so I'm not mad that I was pressured into overspending. However, considering other experiences where I drop the 130-160, girls will pressure you or even complain during the session. I get it's a stressful job, but at least be honest about price and service or even raise the cost to 200, if you think 160 is to low (which compare to the average mp, it's a bargain) but don't start pressuring folks into paying for the full package during the middle of the action. Also, papasan walking into us, while naked scared the shit out of me. Sticking to 35 from now on. Girls are older and less attractive but more fun and no papasan to harass you!

  3. #6493

    Has anyone been?


  4. #6492

    Cubs Flag Place on 35th

    I noticed that the flag was not flying today. Any updates? The place by Lock and Archer appears to be going strong.

  5. #6491
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiGuy489  [View Original Post]
    LMAOOOO about the haggling. I find it hilarious she won't see me, but that's because I don't get a problem anywhere else. My heart goes out to all the soul brothers that can't boom boom.
    I had a very interesting conversation today with an Asian massage provider I saw for the first time. My other appointment fell through and so I decided to hit this place up instead of going home. This is what this Chinese lady had to say. Keep in mind she is L1 only so things might be different for FS places.

    1. 95% of her AA clients tip fairly ($50 to $60) and are friendly / polite. They are not aggressive with her.

    2. While the most generous of her clients are White, these are few and far between. She said White people make up the majority of her difficult customers. These are the ones who try to get everything they can for $40. And they are rude / aggressive about it as well.

    3. Indian / ME clients are red flags. They are not necessarily aggressive like the cheap White people but they are hagglers and many will walk out without tipping.

    4. She does not get a lot of Asian / Oriental customers. When I asked why that is, she said she thinks it's because they prefer FS places.

  6. #6490
    Quote Originally Posted by MickSwagger  [View Original Post]
    Does she give rimjobs?
    Not sure. She didn't get near that area for me and I didn't ask about it.

  7. #6489

    Chubba

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyGarcia  [View Original Post]
    Recently visited her and had the same experience. Offered her a tip for bare and she was cool with it. I would say her body type is stocky, with a little belly action. Not bad but not a skinny person at this point.
    I really found her chubby with a good sized belly. Definitely not a tight p**sy. She is giggly. Note to self never daty with an escort that goes bare!

  8. #6488
    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyGarcia  [View Original Post]
    Recently visited her and had the same experience. Offered her a tip for bare and she was cool with it. I would say her body type is stocky, with a little belly action. Not bad but not a skinny person at this point.
    Does she give rimjobs?

  9. #6487

    Chaba

    Quote Originally Posted by RoronoaZ  [View Original Post]
    https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi....asp?id=240447

    Saw her and dropped $2 on the table. She's been around a while. Thai, late 40's, breasts on larger side, small ass, short of stature. Based out of O'Hare area (apartments by LA Fitness). Included in my 30 min was DFK, BB CIP, and a very cheery attitude. She was so happy and laughing and fun, such a sweetheart.
    Recently visited her and had the same experience. Offered her a tip for bare and she was cool with it. I would say her body type is stocky, with a little belly action. Not bad but not a skinny person at this point.

  10. #6486
    Quote Originally Posted by ChiGuy489  [View Original Post]
    LMAOOOO about the haggling. I find it hilarious she won't see me, but that's because I don't get a problem anywhere else. My heart goes out to all the soul brothers that can't boom boom.
    A possible cause of that might be fear. Someone may have had an incident where the girl was incentivized to donate all her cash to a client. That kind of news spreads like fire through dry brush.

  11. #6485
    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    This hobby is full of prejudice. Being White, I've never really had to deal with it until I learned about a Chinese only apartment full of attractive girls. Also, one time I went to RL and they had 3 girls and one girl would only fuck Chinese clients. Usually you never see ads that say no White people. It's usually no AA but occasionally you'll see other races / cultures as well. I remember seeing a lot of "no Indian" in Toronto and when I asked a Chinese girl at the parlor what was up with that, she told me it's because they always try and haggle. Some will come in and say I'll give you 45 for massage and finish when the door fee is 60. They try to hit up the least busy places and haggle. LMAO. She said a lot of them leave without tipping also.

    I don't get the no Asian one though. All unfair stereotypes aside, it doesn't really make much sense.
    I've heard that from the ones near O'Hare regarding South Asians that they tend to start bartering after one or two visits. I've also listened as someone on the phone started with a lowball of $60 below the indicated rate. The call didn't go well and the number was marked as a cheap charlie.

    For the Southeast Asians, the community in Chicago is sizable, but small enough that some women are concerned about mutual acquaintances. Years ago, one girl refused to see me and instead referring me to someone from out of town (who as it turns out I'd met before so it was all good).

  12. #6484

    Trying to get a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    This hobby is full of prejudice. Being White, I've never really had to deal with it until I learned about a Chinese only apartment full of attractive girls. Also, one time I went to RL and they had 3 girls and one girl would only fuck Chinese clients. Usually you never see ads that say no White people. It's usually no AA but occasionally you'll see other races / cultures as well. I remember seeing a lot of "no Indian" in Toronto and when I asked a Chinese girl at the parlor what was up with that, she told me it's because they always try and haggle. Some will come in and say I'll give you 45 for massage and finish when the door fee is 60. They try to hit up the least busy places and haggle. LMAO. She said a lot of them leave without tipping also.

    I don't get the no Asian one though. All unfair stereotypes aside, it doesn't really make much sense.
    LMAOOOO about the haggling. I find it hilarious she won't see me, but that's because I don't get a problem anywhere else. My heart goes out to all the soul brothers that can't boom boom.

  13. #6483
    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePiePussy  [View Original Post]
    This hobby is full of prejudice. Being White, I've never really had to deal with it until I learned about a Chinese only apartment full of attractive girls. Also, one time I went to RL and they had 3 girls and one girl would only fuck Chinese clients. Usually you never see ads that say no White people. It's usually no AA but occasionally you'll see other races / cultures as well. I remember seeing a lot of "no Indian" in Toronto and when I asked a Chinese girl at the parlor what was up with that, she told me it's because they always try and haggle. Some will come in and say I'll give you 45 for massage and finish when the door fee is 60. They try to hit up the least busy places and haggle. LMAO. She said a lot of them leave without tipping also.

    I don't get the no Asian one though. All unfair stereotypes aside, it doesn't really make much sense.
    One guess is they might know someone here ie family or friends so rather not bump into them.

  14. #6482
    Quote Originally Posted by RonDodg  [View Original Post]
    I got the same response from her and Nicha a few months ago. LOL. Asians that won't see Asians? Now you know how it feels to be African American because you usually see ads that say "No AA". Funny thing is I may be brown but I can't speak a lick of my asian heritage. Was born and raised here in the US, so cheeseburgers is all I know!
    This hobby is full of prejudice. Being White, I've never really had to deal with it until I learned about a Chinese only apartment full of attractive girls. Also, one time I went to RL and they had 3 girls and one girl would only fuck Chinese clients. Usually you never see ads that say no White people. It's usually no AA but occasionally you'll see other races / cultures as well. I remember seeing a lot of "no Indian" in Toronto and when I asked a Chinese girl at the parlor what was up with that, she told me it's because they always try and haggle. Some will come in and say I'll give you 45 for massage and finish when the door fee is 60. They try to hit up the least busy places and haggle. LMAO. She said a lot of them leave without tipping also.

    I don't get the no Asian one though. All unfair stereotypes aside, it doesn't really make much sense.

  15. #6481
    Quote Originally Posted by RonDodg  [View Original Post]
    I got the same response from her and Nicha a few months ago. LOL. Asians that won't see Asians? Now you know how it feels to be African American because you usually see ads that say "No AA". Funny thing is I may be brown but I can't speak a lick of my asian heritage. Was born and raised here in the US, so cheeseburgers is all I know!
    No AA including Asian Americans. Hit 2 birds with 1 stone LOL.

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