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  1. #23782

    Lightening. You Got It Right, Never Pay Up Front! I Learned The Same Lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLightning  [View Original Post]
    Drove 30 minutes to see this one in Op. When I got to the room she started acting paranoid. She wanted the donation upfront and I declined. I've learned from my past mistakes and listened to the mongers in this sub. If you pay upfront providers will usually rush you and give shitty service. She caught a attitude and said how great her reviews are, LOL. I dodged a bullet with this one. Her pictures are very outdated too and she has a stomach. She hides it well. I will never try setting up anything with her again. I wasted some gas driving there but, oh well. You guys were right. Never pay upfront. These skanks need us, we don't need them.

    https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...r/350908900062
    Black Lightening you are so right, we all need to remember this. These shanks need us, we don't need them!

    Once that simple concept is learned, namely these providers need our cash daily, be it for rent, for candy, for food, for whatever. They need our cash each and every day. Without your cash fellow mongers these girls would be homeless and without their much needed candy. So we have the bargaining chip, the cash.

    I too have been screwed by paying before the deed was done. But remembering the simple concept that we mongers have what the providers desperately need, I started to say no, I give the cash after the deed is done.

    It is much better when we remember that our cash is in charge, not the provider.

  2. #23781

    About ole Ashleigh

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLightning  [View Original Post]
    Went to see this one by Schindler in op. I drove 30 minutes to see Ashleigh in op, her pictures are outdated. She's overweight now and catfishing. The cum in my balls were talking to me so I went ahead with the visit. We started with a CBJ and went k9. 3 minutes into k9, I get the worse stench I ever smelled in my life. Her cooter smelled like an animal d!ed in it. Plus the spanking was rushing me to finish. I'm going take a break from mongering a while. The Jax scene is absolutely shit. Its not what it was when I started a couple years ago. I'm moving to Cali in the year, where the talent will be much better. Jax is a shit show now.

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/let-s-play/42169991
    Yeah, I stopped seeing her for those very reasons. She was getting out of shape but more importantly, the stench was out of this world! Another moneymaker smelling like a sewer! SMH.

  3. #23780
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLightning  [View Original Post]
    Went to see this one by Schindler in op. I drove 30 minutes to see Ashleigh in op, her pictures are outdated. She's overweight now and catfishing. The cum in my balls were talking to me so I went ahead with the visit. We started with a CBJ and went k9. 3 minutes into k9, I get the worse stench I ever smelled in my life. Her cooter smelled like an animal d!ed in it. Plus the spanking was rushing me to finish. I'm going take a break from mongering a while. The Jax scene is absolutely shit. Its not what it was when I started a couple years ago. I'm moving to Cali in the year, where the talent will be much better. Jax is a shit show now.

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/let-s-play/42169991
    Yah cause, in Cali there are no lying unkempt girls on drugs. It's just in Duval.

  4. #23779

    Agencies

    I hear some of us praising agencies, and man I miss the good agencies in NJ and PA. You paid $$-$$$$; the provider was in a nice hotel, looking and smelling clean, no obvious drug or tobacco use.

    The girls could hold a conversation for a few minutes. They actually had ambitions and dreams. They were polite, and knew what they were doing. They were usually between 20 and 40 years old, occasionally a bit older.

    It was usually covered service, but it was good covered service, and I was married at the time, and I was fine with that. I didn't want to take anything home.

    On the board I was on at the time, the agency owners would chat with us mongers, and we had a good idea of how to behave and what to do if things went wrong (which was rare).

    I think the best way to describe it, compared to what we have here and now, was it was a humane way of hobbying. The girls were protected both from bad mongers and from bad habits. The gents were protected by agency owners who didn't want the flow of money disrupted. The hotels had rented rooms midweek.

    And then eventually, someone would get busted, and it'd all disappear. The girls would disappear, or try to go independent with little success. The men would realize that the hobby was a bit more dangerous. And the owners would keep their mouths shut, do some time, and retire somewhere with whatever they kept.

    I'm not saying that the agency model for the hobby is the only way to go. But it's damn better than what we have now. It would definitely be more expensive- agencies book less appointments than the independent girls do today (3-4 at most), and they put their girls in much better hotels than the Red Roof knockoffs of today. The screening practices would be a bit more exhaustive than what we have today.

    But damn, some days, I'd like the ability to find a provider, in a clean, safe hotel, showered, polite, dressed up and made up, who is going to show me a good time, not just try to pop me as fast as possible. And it feels like that's impossible here. If it's not, I'd love to know where to go.

  5. #23778
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  6. #23777

    Ashleigh in Op

    Went to see this one by Schindler in op. I drove 30 minutes to see Ashleigh in op, her pictures are outdated. She's overweight now and catfishing. The cum in my balls were talking to me so I went ahead with the visit. We started with a CBJ and went k9. 3 minutes into k9, I get the worse stench I ever smelled in my life. Her cooter smelled like an animal d!ed in it. Plus the spanking was rushing me to finish. I'm going take a break from mongering a while. The Jax scene is absolutely shit. Its not what it was when I started a couple years ago. I'm moving to Cali in the year, where the talent will be much better. Jax is a shit show now.

    https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/let-s-play/42169991
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  7. #23776

    I think she went by.

    Quote Originally Posted by DWaltonXXX  [View Original Post]
    She's been around under a different name, but I haven't seen her personally, and trying to match her up with a former name is driving me nuts.

    .
    Pixie. I've never seen her but based on her negative reviews of double booking and poor hygiene, I wouldn't bother anyhow.

  8. #23775

    The dream Ripped me off

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLightning  [View Original Post]
    Drove 30 minutes to see this one in Op. When I got to the room she started acting paranoid. She wanted the donation upfront and I declined. I've learned from my past mistakes and listened to the mongers in this sub. If you pay upfront providers will usually rush you and give shitty service. She caught a attitude and said how great her reviews are, LOL. I dodged a bullet with this one. Her pictures are very outdated too and she has a stomach. She hides it well. I will never try setting up anything with her again. I wasted some gas driving there but, oh well. You guys were right. Never pay upfront. These skanks need us, we don't need them.

    https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...r/350908900062
    A few years back she agreed to take me on a two hour tour. I was a noob back then and I paid up front. She immediately compliments my suite and asks if she can take a bath. I told her that's fine but on her own time. 30 minutes later I have to talk her into coming out. We play around for 15 or so minutes and she tells me she needs to use the restroom. I can literally hear her snorting while she's flushing the toilet non-stop. She then starts the tub again to take another bath. I hear her talking to someone. 15 minutes or so later she comes out again. She then starts playing with me. Her phone goes off and she states that her BF OD'ed and she needed to head out. She promises to come back later. We all know how that goes. Ghosted. Those pics of her are very photoshopped. Her face and belly have damage. When she left the hotel she went out the side door. I kind of figured so I was watching. She had a driver, male, and one other girl in the vehicle. Total setup. BlackLightning was smarter than I.

  9. #23774
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLightning  [View Original Post]
    Drove 30 minutes to see this one in Op. When I got to the room she started acting paranoid. She wanted the donation upfront and I declined. I've learned from my past mistakes and listened to the mongers in this sub. If you pay upfront providers will usually rush you and give shitty service. She caught a attitude and said how great her reviews are, LOL. I dodged a bullet with this one. Her pictures are very outdated too and she has a stomach. She hides it well. I will never try setting up anything with her again. I wasted some gas driving there but, oh well. You guys were right. Never pay upfront. These skanks need us, we don't need them.

    https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...r/350908900062
    I haven't seen any reviews for her.

  10. #23773

    Many of us won't touch seeking

    Quote Originally Posted by JboJonas  [View Original Post]
    To your point about the $50-100 QV versus the $400-500/ hr girls. And nothing in between here in Jax. That was where Seeking used to fit in. Could find a higher than SW-quality girl for $160-220 or so an hour, and they were attractive girls, typically low volume compared to the BP / now STG quality at the time. And usually not on the needle.

    I personally would pay a quality STG-girl a Seeking-rate if she were the same.

    I think a lot of what is happening is what I was reading about on the SW thread -- a lot of these girls don't walk the streets anymore, instead they get a phone (and somehow keep it now) and post on STG, so STG is nothing but SW's and all that comes with them. Instead of meeting them in the street in your car, you get all the other baggage with them, the thugs, the DB's and handlers as the few SW's I knew all lived and hung out in the absolute shittiest of places in town.
    A lot of us that are professional guys that are hitched and with families are not dealing with all the BS that comes with seeking. That's the whole point of an agency. Cut through the BS. You see who is working on a given day, you text them with a time and who you would like to see and for how long. You have real pics already. You probably have reviews. The whole process to get a date takes a few minutes. Meanwhile, seeking is like dating. Reach out to someone, start a discussion, start negotiating, try to figure out if it is a scam, etc. It is awful and for my situation is a non-starter.

  11. #23772
    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvoc8  [View Original Post]
    Look at how it works in the NE. Agencies aren't offering girls for $100 or $150/ hr. Yeah, they have streetwalker and such for the lowball crowd. Agencies usually charge $250-350/ hr. Here, we have a weird dichotomy. Eros / Tryst girls asking for $400-500/ hr (with hr minimum) and people expecting $50-100 for a qv. Very little in that middle range and nothing that's particularly convenient. There have definitely been some girls posted here that made me wonder if there was a decent agency if they could do well.

    The point wouldn't be to attract girls from NYC. It would be to get local girls from seeking, strip clubs, adultsearch, STG, whatever over to agencies.
    To your point about the $50-100 QV versus the $400-500/ hr girls. And nothing in between here in Jax. That was where Seeking used to fit in. Could find a higher than SW-quality girl for $160-220 or so an hour, and they were attractive girls, typically low volume compared to the BP / now STG quality at the time. And usually not on the needle.

    I personally would pay a quality STG-girl a Seeking-rate if she were the same.

    I think a lot of what is happening is what I was reading about on the SW thread -- a lot of these girls don't walk the streets anymore, instead they get a phone (and somehow keep it now) and post on STG, so STG is nothing but SW's and all that comes with them. Instead of meeting them in the street in your car, you get all the other baggage with them, the thugs, the DB's and handlers as the few SW's I knew all lived and hung out in the absolute shittiest of places in town.

  12. #23771

    I am pretty sure

    She's been around under a different name, but I haven't seen her personally, and trying to match her up with a former name is driving me nuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrew904  [View Original Post]
    Anyone seen this cutie? Don't see any reviews under that name. Probably TGTBT.
    .

  13. #23770
    Quote Originally Posted by TheShelby  [View Original Post]
    Supposed to meet for a dream $$ BBBJ FS Thursday night. She show up but friend showed before she got here. I cancel and she blew up on me and left.

    https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...d/462253073156
    Listen I've been in a provider's spot when she tells me she double booked. And I sat down on her couch and said that is such a shame. You tell the nice man you need 45 minutes. I certainly don't blame you for doing what they do to us.

  14. #23769

    Aurora Love aka the persian chick

    Drove 30 minutes to see this one in Op. When I got to the room she started acting paranoid. She wanted the donation upfront and I declined. I've learned from my past mistakes and listened to the mongers in this sub. If you pay upfront providers will usually rush you and give shitty service. She caught a attitude and said how great her reviews are, LOL. I dodged a bullet with this one. Her pictures are very outdated too and she has a stomach. She hides it well. I will never try setting up anything with her again. I wasted some gas driving there but, oh well. You guys were right. Never pay upfront. These skanks need us, we don't need them.

    https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...r/350908900062
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  15. #23768
    Been curious about this one too. Looks like lots of fun, anyone got info?

    https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...d/772491787332

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