Bullshit that has Nothing to do With Pussy

[ElJefe69]

I mean to be fair, inflation is kind of on the rise. So that could be a factor. I just hope none of these agencies raise their incall rate. Knock on wood. Also hoping for normalcy to return.

The pimp that runs ECE is an anti-vax "freedum" nutjob. I'm sure Kinga got sick of his crap.

[LS4V8]

Why we wasting brain cells on loser "males" that don't get pussy? All of us here get some high quality pussy on a regular basis. Who cares if it's pay to play? All men pay to fuck, it's just we know the price upfront. Y'all think "alphas" don't have to pay something, whether in time or energy? Give me a fucking break.

Besides. If some loser is such a dysfuntional loser and too broke to even pay for a cheap pussy and is still a virgin over age 20 then they shouldn't be allowed to fuck anyway. His shit ass genes deserve to die with him. Good riddance I say.

[Jinurso]

I think there is a reason too. Its why they banned all of the mgtow / incel stuff on reddit. Can't have a bunch of males coming together and pointing out the obvious.

Fair enough. But the chart that's in the article still shows close to 30% of males not having sex within the past year. Thats alot of people!!

Sure, and close to 20% of women too. That's definitely a difference but that's not nearly as dire as "80% of women are having sex and 80% of men aren't".

It's more like 80% of the women are having sex with 70% of the men this year. Unbalanced, but not quite an incel level crisis of Alpha dominance.

[LolBoat]

So what then, 80% of men are virgin incels?? LOL.

I think there's probably a reason they removed the chart.

I think there is a reason too. Its why they banned all of the mgtow / incel stuff on reddit. Can't have a bunch of males coming together and pointing out the obvious.

I'm skeptical of that claim. The graphic appears to be a manipulated version of the actual chart that's still on their website: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...d-record-high/.

Moreover, the original study cited by the WaPo article doesn't even collect "men over 18 who never had sex" as a data point. That's not a question they asked so it would have been impossible to report any trends or data about it: https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/variables/81/vshow.

It's incel fabrication.

Fair enough. But the chart that's in the article still shows close to 30% of males not having sex within the past year. Thats alot of people!!

[Jinurso]

I don't think that data is fake because multiple sources have cited this chart. It seems as if the Washington Post removed it from their original article and these sources werent incel groups.

I'm skeptical of that claim. The graphic appears to be a manipulated version of the actual chart that's still on their website: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...d-record-high/.

Moreover, the original study cited by the WaPo article doesn't even collect "men over 18 who never had sex" as a data point. That's not a question they asked so it would have been impossible to report any trends or data about it: https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/variables/81/vshow.

It's incel fabrication.

[Chicago41]

I don't think that data is fake because multiple sources have cited this chart. It seems as if the Washington Post removed it from their original article and these sources werent incel groups.

So what then, 80% of men are virgin incels?? LOL.

I think there's probably a reason they removed the chart.

[LolBoat]

I just wanted to point out that that chart is a lie. It's been circulating in incel circles for a while and they always cite a Washington Post article, but the Post article in question shows no such chart:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...d-record-high/

It is showing that year over year numbers of sexually active adults are declining (both men and women) but nothing nearly as dire as what that graphic shows.

While I'm on the topic of fake data, I'd also like to know the source of someone else's claim that 80% of women are having sex with 20% of the men. That also sounds suspicious. Of course that also implies that 80% of the men are having sex with 20% of the women. So all that proves is that there are a lot of sloots of both genders.

I don't think that data is fake because multiple sources have cited this chart. It seems as if the Washington Post removed it from their original article and these sources werent incel groups.

[Jinurso]

I take this statement to mean all girls fuck, but there are men that never fuck.

80% of men are not virgins. These are just stats made up by the small percentage of men so dysfunctional that they can't find anybody to fuck them so they declare themselves the silent majority to make them feel better about their most basic of failures.

80% of men are not virgins.

[Riina]

This is why a de-contextualized statement like "80% of the women are fucking 20% of the men" is so useless (but effective in getting the incel crowd riled up). Assuming it's not a made up stat (and it probably is) it doesn't tell us anything.

I take this statement to mean all girls fuck, but there are men that never fuck.

[PeckerHead]

Not at all. The other 80% of men are having little or no sex. At least as far as sport-fucking goes. Women who sport-fuck (and many others as well) would rather share an "alpha" than fuck a "beta".

By most of the reports on here I would have to agree. 80% of the guys on SA (and even here) are BETA's. Seem to have no clue as to how to simply meet up and have a fun time with some of the hotties on SA. It's not rocket science.

[Jinurso]

Not at all. The other 80% of men are having little or no sex. At least as far as sport-fucking goes. Women who sport-fuck (and many others as well) would rather share an "alpha" than fuck a "beta".

This is why a de-contextualized statement like "80% of the women are fucking 20% of the men" is so useless (but effective in getting the incel crowd riled up). Assuming it's not a made up stat (and it probably is) it doesn't tell us anything. Which means you can make any conclusion you want out of that statement.

You think 4 out of 5 women are so hot that only the chaddiest of the Chads have a shot? Have you seen what 4 out of 5 women look like in this country?

It would have been more rrealistic to say 5% of women are dating 1% of men because that accurately identifies the elite population of some of the world's hottest women traveling within exclusive circles of elite wealthy men.

Nobody cares about who Marge from Joliet is fucking and Marge from Joliet is much more representative of 80% of women than girls on SA.

[George Stark]

While I'm on the topic of fake data, I'd also like to know the source of someone else's claim that 80% of women are having sex with 20% of the men. That also sounds suspicious. Of course that also implies that 80% of the men are having sex with 20% of the women. So all that proves is that there are a lot of sloots of both genders.

Not at all. The other 80% of men are having little or no sex. At least as far as sport-fucking goes. Women who sport-fuck (and many others as well) would rather share an "alpha" than fuck a "beta".

[Jinurso]

I would also like to add that I am not looking to offend anyone or don't feel bad that the girls I am banging for ppm see it as transactional. I am going to get my nut off and that is what matters.

But in order for me to say the girl vibes with me and is in to me I would never say that unless she agrees to see me and fuck me with no ppm. I always assume it is transactional otherwise.

This is a bad experiment since you're changing the terms of an arrangement, which means you're not a man of your word. She will wonder if you're really the guy you presented yourself as, or if you are some kind of con-artist or phony, so there are other factors in her psyche that could very well taint the outcome of the test.

And if she does agree, it's very likely she's seeking a long-term monogamous relationship and won't appreciate you banging every other girl on Seeking. Maybe she thinks this is a better path to marrying you. So there's a different kind of transactionality that could very well be at play still.

Very true! The girls I met on SA and I ended up fucking for "free" were women I never met on a PPM basis. That's why I've been preaching that meeting for dinner or drinks before talking about sex is actually a good thing, not a bad thing. It allows you to test the waters with them to see if you can get them to see the meet as a date. That's impossible if you're immediately negotiating stuff like CIP and anal.

I wrote "free" because I still probably spent a lot of money on the date itself, but that's part of the investment.

[Jinurso]

Is it really a dark take though? They are my realistic observations. There is data to prove what I'm saying. I think I read somewhere that most men only have 3-4 sexual partners before they get married.

In 2018,27% of all 18 year old men were virgins. They started keeping track of this data in the early 90's and it always fluctuated a bit, but it was about 10% on average every year. In 2012 the # started climbing (due to tinder, imo.) and now its prob even higher than 30% due to the lockdowns.

Its tough out there!

I just wanted to point out that that chart is a lie. It's been circulating in incel circles for a while and they always cite a Washington Post article, but the Post article in question shows no such chart:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...d-record-high/

It is showing that year over year numbers of sexually active adults are declining (both men and women) but nothing nearly as dire as what that graphic shows.

While I'm on the topic of fake data, I'd also like to know the source of someone else's claim that 80% of women are having sex with 20% of the men. That also sounds suspicious. Of course that also implies that 80% of the men are having sex with 20% of the women. So all that proves is that there are a lot of sloots of both genders.

[ApplePiePussy]

I'm not offended at all I just think this is a myopic and overly reductive view. Most hot girls still expect to be taken out, spoiled, etc. Yeah they may fuck a guy without it from time to time but it will eventually get old and they'll start expecting things. That's why those fuckbuddy situations rarely last.

Jesus Christ. Some of you are really jaded. Most girls, believe it or not, still want the fucking fairytale. The RomCom boyfriend who will impress their family and sweep them off their feet. They want to fall in love and get married and have children. Even the ones who fuck PPM on SA or even in the parlors still hold that hope in the back of their minds. There are plenty of hot girls who don't expect allowances and endless gifts. They chase their emotions more than they chase the money.