"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[DudeNextDoor]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...8-266b700b859d

Anyone have experience with her? She's ready to go.

[Machintosh]

I'm hitting pretty high quality babes at around the $300 mark just fine, and hitting what I would call "girl next door" single moms for $200. Sure, I do talk to some that want $400 or $500 initially, but I either charm / negotiate with them down to $300, or I move on. There's plenty of sugar in the bowl to be had, and if one 9/10 girl won't take $300, there's another 9/10 girl that will. Just have to be patient, stay on the charm offensive, and be willing to move on. I had one 24 year old gorgeous girl who wanted $500 PPM and wouldn't budge for weeks, but I kept in touch, continued to be funny and charming, and eventually either she had a bill due, really wanted some dick, or was just curious enough to see me at $300. That's only happened once, normally I can get them down during the initial negotiations or I wish them luck and move on.

However, I will say the time investment to secure a 9/10 hottie to a reasonable level is not worth it, when I can get a perfectly good 7 or 8/10 girl for way less time, effort, and $. And so far, those girls have been better in the sack. The prettiest ones just don't seem as enthusiastic.

Same here, I honestly can't believe I can have a 23 year old 105 lb spinner, come to my house & fuck me bareback for $200.

$200-300 is the standard ppm I've seen since moving to Atlanta 2 years ago. I've only had a few girls quote me more than $400 but most of them just throw that # out there hoping you agree to it. The lowest I had was a girl I had on allowance for 6 months for $500 per month, I saw her 3-4 X a month.

I don't believe either of you. You should post some examples 😁.

[SeekingHead]

I'm hitting pretty high quality babes at around the $300 mark just fine, and hitting what I would call "girl next door" single moms for $200. Sure, I do talk to some that want $400 or $500 initially, but I either charm / negotiate with them down to $300, or I move on. There's plenty of sugar in the bowl to be had, and if one 9/10 girl won't take $300, there's another 9/10 girl that will. Just have to be patient, stay on the charm offensive, and be willing to move on. I had one 24 year old gorgeous girl who wanted $500 PPM and wouldn't budge for weeks, but I kept in touch, continued to be funny and charming, and eventually either she had a bill due, really wanted some dick, or was just curious enough to see me at $300. That's only happened once, normally I can get them down during the initial negotiations or I wish them luck and move on.

However, I will say the time investment to secure a 9/10 hottie to a reasonable level is not worth it, when I can get a perfectly good 7 or 8/10 girl for way less time, effort, and $. And so far, those girls have been better in the sack. The prettiest ones just don't seem as enthusiastic.

Same here, I honestly can't believe I can have a 23 year old 105 lb spinner, come to my house & fuck me bareback for $200.

$200-300 is the standard ppm I've seen since moving to Atlanta 2 years ago. I've only had a few girls quote me more than $400 but most of them just throw that # out there hoping you agree to it. The lowest I had was a girl I had on allowance for 6 months for $500 per month, I saw her 3-4 X a month.

[Ripvan12]

I think all of us have heard absurd $$$ requests in the sugar bowl. But I have come to the conclusion it is all about timing and circumstance. If you are talking finances and per meet amounts with one of these girls within the first 1 or 2 communication exchanges you have a higher likelihood of getting hit with a rack rate. For instance, the rack rate for a sleazy roach Motel might be 250 per night but who the heck is paying that? A monger that has signed up for a rewards program or knows how to get good deals online or plans sessions in advance would never. But a monger in desperation mode might bite the rack rate bullet. My opinion is that women, as a method of survival instinct, can sniff out a monger in desperation mode a mile away. Or sometimes these girls are just rate shopping and seeing their own market value. They have Monger A on the hook for a Friday date at 400. Monger B shows up on Thursday in the inbox requesting her time on Friday so she throws 600 out to see if she will get a bite to dump Monger A.

It pays to have a good rotation already in place so you can slow cook some of these girls and work the charm. The prices go down tremendously if you are willing to invest time. But time is money and some mongers throw out big money to save their time. Ripper.

It seems that is the going rate (or more) for ppm for the top-of-the-line babes on SB. That's just too much for one session to me.

They booted me off SA a while back so I've actually gotten pretty good at weeding through the fake profiles on SB. Anyway, is there a good way of getting the 9+ babes down on these rates or do I just have to keep digging or pay the rate?

Are you guys running into this as well?

[GoneForGood97]

The most I have ever paid is $400, & that was to a girl who if she wouldn't have been 4'9 & instead 5'5 would have been a 9. 5.

If I get quoted $600 then I pass, or come back at them with a more lower $ amount.

I'm hitting pretty high quality babes at around the $300 mark just fine, and hitting what I would call "girl next door" single moms for $200. Sure, I do talk to some that want $400 or $500 initially, but I either charm / negotiate with them down to $300, or I move on. There's plenty of sugar in the bowl to be had, and if one 9/10 girl won't take $300, there's another 9/10 girl that will. Just have to be patient, stay on the charm offensive, and be willing to move on. I had one 24 year old gorgeous girl who wanted $500 PPM and wouldn't budge for weeks, but I kept in touch, continued to be funny and charming, and eventually either she had a bill due, really wanted some dick, or was just curious enough to see me at $300. That's only happened once, normally I can get them down during the initial negotiations or I wish them luck and move on.

However, I will say the time investment to secure a 9/10 hottie to a reasonable level is not worth it, when I can get a perfectly good 7 or 8/10 girl for way less time, effort, and $. And so far, those girls have been better in the sack. The prettiest ones just don't seem as enthusiastic.

[DArrow404]

https://members.seeking.com/member/3...2-286cbcd2b1d2

Anyone have info on her? I'm thinking she's a scammer as she has already given me the line about needing gas money. Smh. I was hoping I'd finally found a legit sub 5' spinner. Does anyone get suspicious when the person you're talking with has never viewed your profile? I know premium members can turn that notification off but most SBs don't have premium.

[Frankie14]

I've always locked the door. Whether I'm meeting someone single, living alone, and no sign of anyone. But especially if there are others!

What I want to know is what did the mom do? Did she pull away and hide behind the sheets or something? Or did she just keep on banging the dick?.

I've seen single moms and I've seen no kids girls. The single moms have been better 80-90% of the time. Even having to schedule around the kids, they have at least tiny bit of organization skills because they are managing their kid. The young girls with no kids are like herding cats. They are talking to you, their FwB, and some random tinder dude while also deciding whether or not they can see you before or after their BFFs party. You'd think no kids girls would be simpler, but in my experience they are way harder to pin down. I'm not saying unicorns don't exist, but it's rare.

Single moms, the best bet is if they live near enough to their parents they can just drop off kids before seeing you, or if they have a friendly enough relationship with Dad or joint custody, then you just schedule your visits when the kid is away. Even then, them hosting is not always guaranteed, but at this point I just budget hotel expenses into any arrangement I have, and if they end up being able to host that's a bonus. And as you mentioned, seeing them after kids are in bed works well, though the occasional "seeing mommy drilled from behind by a guy I don't know" incident is bound to happen. If the kids young enough they won't remember, and if they're old enough to remember their old enough to know better. Hopefully you learned to lock the bedroom door in the future (assuming the door does lock).

[DArrow404]

Especially if you have them on allowance vs. Ppm.

How many of you have actually paid an allowance instead of ppm? I haven't so far, but wouldn't be opposed if it is someone that was really great and really trusted. That single mom I had saw; I would have considered it but she moved away.

Also, for those who have done the allowance did you get any extra perks, discount etc.

[Steel Wolf]

What's funny is I even offered lets meet up to discuss and worst case you get a free nice meal out of it. However, she refused saying she's too busy. LOL. 400 and she's too busy but 500 is ok. Hmm.

She definitely has one of the worst cases of "Fellatio won't fill the hole in your soul" that I have ever met in a human.

[SeekingHead]

It seems that is the going rate (or more) for ppm for the top-of-the-line babes on SB. That's just too much for one session to me.

They booted me off SA a while back so I've actually gotten pretty good at weeding through the fake profiles on SB. Anyway, is there a good way of getting the 9+ babes down on these rates or do I just have to keep digging or pay the rate?

Are you guys running into this as well?

The most I have ever paid is $400, & that was to a girl who if she wouldn't have been 4'9 & instead 5'5 would have been a 9. 5.

If I get quoted $600 then I pass, or come back at them with a more lower $ amount.

[Apollo007]

It seems that is the going rate (or more) for ppm for the top-of-the-line babes on SB. That's just too much for one session to me.

They booted me off SA a while back so I've actually gotten pretty good at weeding through the fake profiles on SB. Anyway, is there a good way of getting the 9+ babes down on these rates or do I just have to keep digging or pay the rate?

Are you guys running into this as well?

[SeekingHead]

I generally have avoided the ones with kids as it just complicates things with scheduling etc in my experience. Though I did see one single mom whose kid was 5 or so and she would host. I would come over in the evening usually as she was putting the kid to bed. So he usually never saw me. Though he did wake up once at night, open the door and walked in seeing me taking his mom doggy style LOL.

For those who have seen single moms with young children (under 10, no 50/50), were they willing to host even if the kid was there? I assume this isn't common but maybe I'm wrong or maybe they are willing after a visit or two when they are comfortable.

I'm single so I can host, but I'd imagine after they are comfortable with you using their bed shouldn't be an issue. Especially if you have them on allowance vs. Ppm. You can tell them look I'm paying for the apartment, & they can't really argue with that. If they have kids then you have to be a bit flexible with their schedule.

[GoneForGood97]

I generally have avoided the ones with kids as it just complicates things with scheduling etc in my experience. Though I did see one single mom whose kid was 5 or so and she would host. I would come over in the evening usually as she was putting the kid to bed. So he usually never saw me. Though he did wake up once at night, open the door and walked in seeing me taking his mom doggy style LOL.

For those who have seen single moms with young children (under 10, no 50/50), were they willing to host even if the kid was there? I assume this isn't common but maybe I'm wrong or maybe they are willing after a visit or two when they are comfortable.

I've seen single moms and I've seen no kids girls. The single moms have been better 80-90% of the time. Even having to schedule around the kids, they have at least tiny bit of organization skills because they are managing their kid. The young girls with no kids are like herding cats. They are talking to you, their FwB, and some random tinder dude while also deciding whether or not they can see you before or after their BFFs party. You'd think no kids girls would be simpler, but in my experience they are way harder to pin down. I'm not saying unicorns don't exist, but it's rare.

Single moms, the best bet is if they live near enough to their parents they can just drop off kids before seeing you, or if they have a friendly enough relationship with Dad or joint custody, then you just schedule your visits when the kid is away. Even then, them hosting is not always guaranteed, but at this point I just budget hotel expenses into any arrangement I have, and if they end up being able to host that's a bonus. And as you mentioned, seeing them after kids are in bed works well, though the occasional "seeing mommy drilled from behind by a guy I don't know" incident is bound to happen. If the kids young enough they won't remember, and if they're old enough to remember their old enough to know better. Hopefully you learned to lock the bedroom door in the future (assuming the door does lock).

[DArrow404]

A lot of single moms on the site who if you treat good will bend over backwards for you. A lot of them have dealt with looser's who donated some sperm & then dropped out of sight. I've had a few arrangements with single moms were if I asked them to become a full time girlfriend & move in with me they would have. It's not always about the money with some of these women, treat them good & you will reap the rewards.

I generally have avoided the ones with kids as it just complicates things with scheduling etc in my experience. Though I did see one single mom whose kid was 5 or so and she would host. I would come over in the evening usually as she was putting the kid to bed. So he usually never saw me. Though he did wake up once at night, open the door and walked in seeing me taking his mom doggy style LOL.

For those who have seen single moms with young children (under 10, no 50/50), were they willing to host even if the kid was there? I assume this isn't common but maybe I'm wrong or maybe they are willing after a visit or two when they are comfortable.

[GoneForGood97]

Amber.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...1-130a2bccff9b

Thought I'd save some of you the trouble, she's only looking to sell content and direct you to her Olyfans. If you can, please report her so we can get her off the site and somewhere more appropriate for her goals.