Seeking Arrangements

[Joe1223]

It's kind of crazy but I remember Jenna from back in the day when she kind of looked like the girl next door & introduced her to many of the guys on here. Can't believe her transformation & look to be a full blown hooker now.

I met her a couple of times when she was thin and trim. She was just starting her hooker journey and hadn't been bitten by demons yet. I actually would pick her up at her house so you knew she was naive. Great visits with her and full GFE with all BB options. She started to raise her prices once she became popular so I never went back and the demons got a hold on her.

[Gianni Versace]

ON SA with the new profile: https://members.seeking.com/member/b...d-ec32cd7d3b2b.

It's kind of crazy but I remember Jenna from back in the day when she kind of looked like the girl next door & introduced her to many of the guys on here. Can't believe her transformation & look to be a full blown hooker now.

[Spill]

Transformed to Stacey Mack:

https://www.eros.com/massachusetts/b...5369.htm?cat=1

ON SA with the new profile: https://members.seeking.com/member/b...d-ec32cd7d3b2b.

[BR1201]

She's still on here making profiles avoid at all costs.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...7-142be4283e4a

She will take your money and quite literally run away with it. Into a van.

[Billlc3425]

Where can I purchase an online visa gift card? What is the brand name?

Right here.

https://www.vanillagift.com/

[RandomChance72]

This tactic may work for your average back page type hooker. But I hope you are not asking the average college chick or young professional these types of questions on this site. This is why they delete their account in the first week or two.

Girls that delete their accounts within the first two weeks are usually the ones who have their dreams shattered once they realize most guys won't pay them purely for the benefit of being in their company.

Regardless. At some point money is discussed (whether its at the M&G or before). This would be the time to utilize this approach. When I wrote my original post I assumed I didn't need to add the obvious disclaimers (establish rapport, don't frame it as a choice / ultimatum, remember not to be hyper logical, etc). But I guess I'll state it explicitly for those less savvy at using their soft skills.

As always, tips are tips. Use what works for you.

[Spike77]

Reviews matter. But there are small tips and tricks that can help further mitigate risk. One trick I use is to offer three different price points based on services offered. For example I might offer:

Option 1: FS for 200.

Option 2: BBFS for 250.

Option 3: BBFS w/ Anal for 300.

If a girl is planning to steal your money and run, she'll likely choose option 3 to maximize her payday. Obviously there are some girls who are cool with BBFS anal, but I think we all know that these are rare.

I like this trick because it alerts me to start looking for other clues if a girl agrees to option 3. Another dead give away I've seen is girls who choose option 3 quickly and without hesitation. In my experience, even girls who are down with anal usually ask lots of questions and add qualifiers (i.e. "how big are you? "I'm not really that into anal", "we can try but I can't promise anything", etc.).

At the end of the day, there's always some risk involve. But if you're smart, you can mitigate some risk.

This tactic may work for your average back page type hooker. But I hope you are not asking the average college chick or young professional these types of questions on this site. This is why they delete their account in the first week or two.

The best advice I can give and what previous posters have already mentioned, never give money upfront. Just don't do it. Anyone that asks for money upfront is a scammer. I made this mistake once years ago. I will never make that mistake again knowing that one simple rule.

[RandomChance72]

The problem, as I see it, is that dishonest people always have the upper hand. Let's say that one is in her apartment and the $500 has been passed over. Then, a big man shows up and threatens violence. There are a few guys on this site who know how to handle a threat, but I am not one of them. Nor would an encounter that might result in the presence of law enforcement be worthwhile. In fact, I would gladly forgo $500 rather than involve LEO.

That is why reviews matter. Real reviews that involve actually seeing the gal.

Reviews matter. But there are small tips and tricks that can help further mitigate risk. One trick I use is to offer three different price points based on services offered. For example I might offer:

Option 1: FS for 200.

Option 2: BBFS for 250.

Option 3: BBFS w/ Anal for 300.

If a girl is planning to steal your money and run, she'll likely choose option 3 to maximize her payday. Obviously there are some girls who are cool with BBFS anal, but I think we all know that these are rare.

I like this trick because it alerts me to start looking for other clues if a girl agrees to option 3. Another dead give away I've seen is girls who choose option 3 quickly and without hesitation. In my experience, even girls who are down with anal usually ask lots of questions and add qualifiers (i.e. "how big are you? "I'm not really that into anal", "we can try but I can't promise anything", etc.).

At the end of the day, there's always some risk involve. But if you're smart, you can mitigate some risk.

[Spill]

Has she improved at all? Is she changing for the better or just changing?

Transformed to Stacey Mack:

https://www.eros.com/massachusetts/b...5369.htm?cat=1

[Joe1223]

This girl wanted $500 for an evening out. Drinks, talk and fun at her place.

She wanted payment up front. Agreed to give her $100 and $400 in her apartment. Got to restaurant and had 45 minutes of nice conversation. Foolishly gave her the remaining $400. At that point she bolted out and climbed into a van that was waiting the entire time for her.

Of course, her cell phone line went dead. She is now listed on SA as Sweet Chick. She has been through a number of names and profiles in the last few days, but is consistently listed as being from Natick.

She is a complete scam.

Unfortunately you had to learn the hard way in a big way. My opinion and have posted several times, I will never pay that much and I will never pay up front. Ever. Coffee dates are the best for meet and greets as it's low risk and then make a date for an outcall at a hotel for the first time. You have more control of the situation and if she decides to flake her real intentions are exposed. Don't check in until she arrives either.

I know it hard to resist sometimes but if you read these posts you see a common denominator. Paying first smells like a rip-off. Good luck next time and we have all been there so just keep trying.

[Member #6453]

Ugh that SUCKS.

Pre-BP shutdown, I never worried about this shit from girls on SA (naive on my part, but I also screened well). Also seems more boyfriends getting involved in these scams.

Before it was no money before meet. And now its also no money until the deed is done and if they refuse, then move on to the next one. Risk aint worth it.

She started the run as soon as the cash touched her hands. There was no time to respond, although a response might have been dangerous.

The problem, as I see it, is that dishonest people always have the upper hand. Let's say that one is in her apartment and the $500 has been passed over. Then, a big man shows up and threatens violence. There are a few guys on this site who know how to handle a threat, but I am not one of them. Nor would an encounter that might result in the presence of law enforcement be worthwhile. In fact, I would gladly forgo $500 rather than involve LEO.

That is why reviews matter. Real reviews that involve actually seeing the gal.

[Hobbyist420]

This girl wanted $500 for an evening out. Drinks, talk and fun at her place.

She wanted payment up front. Agreed to give her $100 and $400 in her apartment. Got to restaurant and had 45 minutes of nice conversation. Foolishly gave her the remaining $400. At that point she bolted out and climbed into a van that was waiting the entire time for her.

Of course, her cell phone line went dead. She is now listed on SA as Sweet Chick. She has been through a number of names and profiles in the last few days, but is consistently listed as being from Natick.

She is a complete scam.

Ugh that SUCKS.

Pre-BP shutdown, I never worried about this shit from girls on SA (naive on my part, but I also screened well). Also seems more boyfriends getting involved in these scams.

Before it was no money before meet. And now its also no money until the deed is done and if they refuse, then move on to the next one. Risk aint worth it.

[Member #6453]

Either a fake account trying to get cashapp money, or an actual person trying to get cashapp money. They get reported via screenshot, and then kicked off the site. But one can easily make a new profile with new user name to get around that. SA's quality control around these things is horrible.

Also semi-pros / pros also tend to make new profiles on a regular basis to not leave the pro scent because they know the men are getting smarter in hunting for UTR.

Report to follow. She will take your money and run.

[Member #6453]

This girl wanted $500 for an evening out. Drinks, talk and fun at her place.

She wanted payment up front. Agreed to give her $100 and $400 in her apartment. Got to restaurant and had 45 minutes of nice conversation. Foolishly gave her the remaining $400. At that point she bolted out and climbed into a van that was waiting the entire time for her.

Of course, her cell phone line went dead. She is now listed on SA as Sweet Chick. She has been through a number of names and profiles in the last few days, but is consistently listed as being from Natick.

She is a complete scam.

[Hobbyist420]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-ed85f770a7ca

What's this broads deal? Is she real? Always on there with new accounts. Looks good though.

Either a fake account trying to get cashapp money, or an actual person trying to get cashapp money. They get reported via screenshot, and then kicked off the site. But one can easily make a new profile with new user name to get around that. SA's quality control around these things is horrible.

Also semi-pros / pros also tend to make new profiles on a regular basis to not leave the pro scent because they know the men are getting smarter in hunting for UTR.