Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[JCod664]

While I get that Whatsapp is encrypted, I have found nobody but people of different countries using it; plus it requires my real number to be a part of. How do you find that ap working for you in keeping our anonymity while also being a common ap used with ladies in Indiana?

Spend the 30 a month abs get a burner phone. All my meet ups think my name is the guy who had this number last LOL not much more anonymous than that. And get a number from a different Utt than your hometown thank me later.

[Jax0077]

Kik or Google Voice (or any free text app) is the best way I've found to be anonymous. Snap also works but sucks to use!

Snap sucks. Are they still allowing women to charge for premium memberships? That seemed to be a thing a couple years ago on SA, I'd get lured to SNAP, to find out the chick had a strong following and she'd want me to get some premium access for "daily pics" or something like that. I always used KIK but it's riddled with pop up ads now. Lately I've just been using text aps like Text Now or Text Me from within the Apple / Google Ap store. Free, burner numbers, that I can attach to a protonmail email address. I try to avoid using social media aps whenever possible as I don't like the ad and location tracking features of a lot of the alternatives. And agree with what someone posted after yours relating to this topic. I've only found one lady as of recent that uses KIK still. But she's been on that site forever. Great lady, but hoping I have her convinced to switch to text. I like texting from a PC, it's much easier then a small cellphone.

[SpinAndWin85]

While I get that Whatsapp is encrypted, I have found nobody but people of different countries using it; plus it requires my real number to be a part of. How do you find that ap working for you in keeping our anonymity while also being a common ap used with ladies in Indiana?

I prefer Kik, but it seems fewer and fewer SBs are using it these days. Haven't used WhatsApp, as it requires a phone #.

[Bigg2003]

While I get that Whatsapp is encrypted, I have found nobody but people of different countries using it; plus it requires my real number to be a part of. How do you find that ap working for you in keeping our anonymity while also being a common ap used with ladies in Indiana?

Kik or Google Voice (or any free text app) is the best way I've found to be anonymous. Snap also works but sucks to use!

[Jax0077]

Never have. In fact, don't even approach allowance until you move to text, Kik, WhatsApp, or whatever.

While I get that Whatsapp is encrypted, I have found nobody but people of different countries using it; plus it requires my real number to be a part of. How do you find that ap working for you in keeping our anonymity while also being a common ap used with ladies in Indiana?

[WreckItRight]

P.S, I'd like add. Re reading your post. You know. The funny thing is is that I used to follow the escort threads on here, and there was this hot brunette that sometimes would have sex with guys, while other times her boyfriend would rob them. Oddly, more dudes were like "What's her digits? I'll take my chances." I mean, wow. But, there were also those that removed her from the site completely by sending her and her boyfriend on wild outcall goose chases to the point she eventually gave up; as did the mongers. So I think it's of value when negative reviews are posted, when consistent.

Sometimes it works for the good of the group.

[SpinAndWin85]

Don't put ppm on profile or discuss it on site, probably will get banned.

Never have. In fact, don't even approach allowance until you move to text, Kik, WhatsApp, or whatever.

[Jax0077]

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said, just saying all publicity is good publicity. Girls who get a " bad rep" on here love it. Cha ching. also the guy i was talking about wasnt a SD that i know of, just a friend of mine who dates alot of girls.

P.S, I'd like add. Re reading your post. You know. The funny thing is is that I used to follow the escort threads on here, and there was this hot brunette that sometimes would have sex with guys, while other times her boyfriend would rob them. Oddly, more dudes were like "What's her digits? I'll take my chances." I mean, wow. But, there were also those that removed her from the site completely by sending her and her boyfriend on wild outcall goose chases to the point she eventually gave up; as did the mongers. So I think it's of value when negative reviews are posted, when consistent.

[BabbyGirrl1313]

How can you use the term "we, as men " , when you're a provider, Jordan?

I have to say that or my post will get rejected. Women are not allowed here. This site is "explicitly for the sole purpose of men being able to exchange information about women for sex."

When I say things like "we", as men, I'm saying that's what "we" (you) as men, do. Because that's what I have to say for my post to get accepted.

And I'm sure this one will probably get rejected too because it's "not useful to the purpose."

[Jax0077]

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said, just saying all publicity is good publicity. Girls who get a " bad rep" on here love it. Cha ching. also the guy i was talking about wasnt a SD that i know of, just a friend of mine who dates alot of girls.

I didn't take offense to it at all, these conversations help the noobs, and at the moment, there are a lot of scams on that site. We've known one another longer then you know. PM me.

[Jax0077]

My point. Women are thinking that it's just a mutually beneficial, no strings attached relationship like it's supposed to be. But instead we, as men, are making it a game. And making the women our prey.

It's mutually beneficial, and mutually challenging. Women make men "prey" on that site all of the time, examples:

1. Must prove worth by sending money in advance.

2. Need money for a baby sitter, can you cashapp me?

3. Yup my pictures are accurate -- from 10 years ago.

4. My last daddy paid $$ so I will take no less then that, despite us (thanks to this site) knowing that isn't true. BTW -- why didn't you stick with him? Next point.

5. You don't mind if my boyfriend comes along to rob you, do you?

6. I'm only seeing you so no protection necessary, but this site proves otherwise.

7. I'm off my meds so prepare for crazy texting in the middle of the night for drug money, crazy screaming for no reason during a date, lashing out in public forums revealing names, extortion, etc.

8. If you want to catch my attention, check out my wish / gift list, "prove your worth. " Then never talk nor meet the guy.

9. Post "Salt daddy" experiences on tick tock AND all of the gifts you receive from your wish list as you make fun of the men doing so.

10. Say that men do nothing but treat ladies like prey. Mic drop.

[WreckItRight]

I believe I said I'd likely give her a chance IF she'd ever reply to her texts. But like I said, either she's keeping busy with other guys, or she's not the best at communication, or maybe pharma is in play. Either way, in my personal experience, she has not communicated well. If that is important to a Monger, then maybe that information will be of help to him. I do understand your point, she's been reported as not being very concerned about protection -- and what happened -- more guys wanted her digits. So can't disagree with anything you just said. Doesn't matter, I moved on, holidays are approaching and the best gifts are soon to arrive with more urgent needs.

I will say though, some SBs are touchy regarding changing plans, especially same day, however there are two sides to every coin. On the guys side, maybe a kid got sick, a wife took the day off work, the guy has a health issue, had a business meeting change, or she simply rubbed him the wrong way with attitude; some SB's just flip out and talk shit to their other / future SD's about him. I tend to take those complaints with a grain of salt, and also further validates my points that using the same user name here and there, as well as your point of those reviewing great ladies are probably both a bad idea. Instead I just focus on her and I. What I have seen more of is SD's white knighting to benefit themselves and disadvantaging their perceived competition. It's just a part of the game I guess. Whatever guy your talking about either must be very smooth with words and or deep pockets if they keep going back to what these ladies are stating is a bad situation.

J.

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said, just saying all publicity is good publicity. Girls who get a " bad rep" on here love it. Cha ching. also the guy i was talking about wasnt a SD that i know of, just a friend of mine who dates alot of girls.

[OnlyBlondes]

How is she in bed. And what was the damage.

$$.5, I would host. MSOG, CIP, COF, CIM.

[Mo8888]

Well written and spot on. My experience with SA to a tee. I would add one more and that is those who use a texting app (usually with an out of state area code) or want you to use What's App. I understand some use an app for security purposes, but 9 times out of 10 it's a scam.

So a couple of people wanting help. After being an SD for many years I can tell you that some of it just comes with a bit of experience dealing with crazy situations but I'll try to provide a short list.

1. Never pay in advance, do not send dick pics especially with your face unless you want extorted. Either situation will leave you alone on a date with Rosie.

2. Within your profile just try to be normal, something like "Just an average, chill guy, looking to have fun with one lady, who appreciates a successful man. Looking for discretion, and one on one time with the right lady. " Avoid words like "intimacy, sex, ppm, etc. " just state "I prefer to discuss this stuff off line, if you'd like to text to work out specifics, I'm down for that. " Always speak like you're chill and cool.

3. Hide all Live in Indiana, Indiana. They don't live in Indiana and / or live too far away and have zero good intentions.

4. Just hide the ones that say that they are looking to sell pics and videos or meet in person eventually, there is no eventually.

5. If they text you, don't assume all is good, talk to them like normal, if they say times have been tough (red flag, ask more questions. Chances are it'll lead to asking you for money for a baby sitter, money for their sisters meds, money for groceries, or gas ahead of meeting. Just wait for it, I promise, 90% of the time, they'll reveal that to you and then you'll just end up blocking them, therefore refer to rule number 1.

6. Never pay for a meet and greet. If a woman needs to be paid to simply meet for drinks, she doesn't like you anyway and you aren't getting anywhere but a boner for some hot chick being a ***** to you and checking her watch.

7. Ignore the "My last SD paid me" or "I usually get" because remember, they just said "I'm new to this". So stick to your guns, the average is 2-3 $4 these days, or 4 $$ for top of the line, hosting, no hotel, babes. Fat, ugly chicks, maybe $1.

8. If their first and last call is todays date, feel free to reach out and let us know how it goes. But chances are they are dudes who robbed instagram photos so might as well wait a day or two to see if they get banned or not.

9. Some women despite what I said are real, and just on drugs, so ask for current photos and look for obvious signs of pharma use -- track marks, rotten teeth, extremely skinny, etc. At that point its up to you, just please use a condom with the real women on that site that the rest of us may choose to date. I don't want what you catch from the crackster.

10. Be nice, be real, be sincere. While they are all hooking, basically, some do like to see one guy at a time (most lie but some no) so be cool to them. If they want to meet you and you click with them in text, they probably do find you attractive for your age so be even more nice to them. Just don't start offering stupid money to make them think that's the norm, because they likely aren't just seeing you and our replies will just piss them off and your price will go up as a result (just sayin' Consider your hourly worth and never offer more then that as you surely aren't getting your value at that point. Also consider their hourly rate if they have a job, and meet somewhere in the middle. Mutual means mutual. Last point here. If you meet a good one, stick with her for a while, until things wear off for both of you, as the good ones are more rare these days and as long as I've been on I've had the luxury of once knowing great ones who are still on every single day that are now just bitter and cold.

11. Don't discuss price. I've gotten laid for free simply for being successful and charming the hell out of a woman many times. Just agree to meet, and avoid Starbucks, those dates suck and usually just create uncomfortable situations. Somewhere comfortable for both of you. Also, you don't want to be entrapped for solicitation. So stick to the "we can discuss that once we know chemistry exists on both sides as I want you and I to both be comfortable with one another. " If you meet in person the price normally cuts down considerably.

12. It's best to discuss "weekly until I know you better allowance" and focus the energy on how many times per week, better value that way. Many will want a ball park, just throw it back in their lap and ask them what their ball park is and say "Ok, sounds cool, we can discuss that in person. ".

13. If they need to know price upfront without even getting to know you, just tell them you aren't on Ebay, you're on a dating site, do you want to get to know me or not? If not, then move on, that or fuck with them but caution. You could get reported and banned from the site.

14. I'll stop on an even number. I don't care if a lady is a pro hooker or a lady who is trying to get through college, or a lady just wants a slightly older man to marry, the site is becoming very diverse and is full of crazy ass liberals. So I guess the best suggestion I could give is to not rush the conversation to What, how much, when, and where. Just get to know them as if you wanted to date them, or had interest in considering so. It'll get you further with more incredible experiences then if you treated someone like a peace of meat; as you probably don't want treated like an ATM.

Hope some of this is helpful and I'm sure others will have useful advice.

P.S. -- if you want to know about someone, I only block those that fall into the unsafe category and most of the time when you guys are asking about someone with plans to meet, I've long ago blocked them because either a: they wanted money up front, b: were on drugs c: sent nasty photos compared to their profile, or d: were super GPS (like over 5 $$ . Which I'd pay for a dream chick I must admit but never more). I'll try to do better by just hiding them so I can give advice but will be sure to let you know if I blocked them for those reasons. I never block someone over just being an ass, as they usually forget about me within a couple of weeks and like Ground Hog Day I can attempt a better approach the next time. Just PM me as I don't check in here often enough to reply. Also I would say, trust Mr. P. He's a good dude and knows his shit.

JaX.

[Charming1]

How is she in bed. And what was the damage.

Last May, I banged her few times. She's messed up in the head, would travel to Evansville and work in the banking industry. It took awhile to get that panty to drop for sure, problem is she is train wreck and has more baggage than a Southwest 73X can handle. I don't have her contact any more, anything goes with her and tight kitty.

She's similar to that girl, Lowkey.